has anyone successfully voice dialed via a BT headset with one of these devices?
i currently use a BT headset, an ipaq, and a BT enabled phone. i am waiting and waitin for the right device before I buy a converged device.
i want to be able to push the 'talk" button on my BT headset, wake up my ppd/phone and then say the name of my contact, and have the phone dial them. i can do this currently with my phone/headset.
i am under the impression that the current ppc/phones on the market will NOT do this. i am told/informed that there are programs such as voicedialer that allow the PPCs to voice dial..but you can only activate it via a HARDWARE button..and the BT headset button will NOT activate it....sucks.
is this true or is there a way to do it? if that will work, i'm sold. this is a key feature to me.
As of this moment, there is no BT headset/ppc phone dialing capability. It is a limitation of the OS. The audio listening component cannot be opened on the pda side by a button on the BT headset.
I occasionally unconverge for weekends and other occasions. My V600 works perfectly with my HS820 BT headset, especially in the car. The headset works with my PDA2k and my h6315 also, but I can't initiate a call from the headset when using those pdaphones.
If that is a key feature, keep waiting. It MAY be available by the end of the year in Windows Mobile 2005 devices.
for those of you who converge and then "unconverge" at times and use a cell phone / headset - and can really compare back and forth...between the two..
what do you see as the key benefits of carryin a converged device?
I owned a Razr and a V620 up until about two weeks ago. Then I bought my PDA2K. Then I sold the Razr and I honestly haven't powered on the v620 once since getting the PDA2K. I'm thinking I'm going to sell it too.
what do you see as the major benefit to having a converged device....compared to the "two box" system?
do you find the device too bulky....i love the slimness of my 1945. if i do have it with me, it's very small. the only problem,is that I have to take it AND my phone everywhere I go. as far as charging...i have two cords to take with me when I travel...pain..but I have spares so no big deal...and I've never run into a situation where they have been dead/no charge....i've come close...but not yet.
i guess the big advantage to me is just the convenience of having "it all" in one thing. as long as that device is with me, i have all I need...docs/music/pictures/data plus my phone. nice.
i guess the "no voice dialin from the BT headset" is a limitation...but if you had the PDA out on the seat next to you in the car, you would just have to pick it up, then activate it by pushin a button on it. then I beleive you could say the name/contact info into the BT headset...it works then..you just have to push the button on the pda FIRST....minor annoyance..but if the payoff of havin a converged devices is big enough..then the minor issue of having to hit a button on the pda to actiate voicecommand would be not so bad.
one other question..for email...do you get a unique email address via the carrfier..like john@verizon.com or will the PPC/Phone easily get emails that are on internet carriers, like Earthlink. AOL, etc? I have an earthlink email which I CAN pull up via my Ipaq/BT phone..but they charge me up the a$$ as I do not have a data plan.
i guess my next step is to look into data plans and see what they are like. i'd need something unlimited as my prior experience with my ipaq/ATT was that they billed me outrageious fees for the few tims I hit the internet.
another question - is it better to find a wifi device, or is this EVDO stuff via Verizon/sprint better b/c it's high speed/CDMA?>
i don't know what's better for a ppc/phone...GSM or CDMA
Easy... the V600 works as it's supposed to every time. All of my notifications work as they are supposed to.
I use the PDAphones when I need to do lots of work-related stuff. But they have a tendency to crash at the worst possible times. The reliability factor just isn't quite there, but it's better than a couple of years ago. The V600 fits in my pocket better than any PDAphone... so that's why it's my "weekend" phone. I am also a bluetooth user - my headset really works well with my V600 and needs some tweaking to work with the PDAphones, especially for making calls. It's not bad, but not perfect or easy.
I also use WiFi extensively at work and at my home office. I need to be able to surf and connect to our corporate sites. I don't want to do that over GPRS or CDMA if I can help it.
for my needs, I really don't *have* to have a converged device. it would just be neat.
I work out of an office, and my job does not require travel, and I'm only away from my desk for short periods of time during the day. on weekends, i have both the phone and PDA with me, but can get by with just the phone. i use the Pda mostly for phone nubmers when I am out on the weekend..and 90% of the number I do call routinely are in the phone.
i simply like the idea of getting my emails into my pda for convenience. i can do it with my ipaq/BT phone but they charge me a lot. but I dn't have a data plan. maybe a data plan would cut those costs and it would be more cost effective..
John, I thought I was writing that post because it reminded me so much of what I do. I use V551 on the go, and love the conveniece, light weight, reliability, bluetooth and even EDGE capability in such a small flip phone.
My SX66, PPC6601 before that, is used primarily for data access, Wifi and GPRS, in addition to PDA functions. I was bothered so much by the phone features and performance in these PPC phones that I had to get that Motorola to supplement it. I will not give up my flip phone till the phone integration in these PDA phones is working properly, reliable, easy to use, etc.
Originally posted by 23109VC do you find the device too bulky...
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another question - is it better to find a wifi device, or is this EVDO stuff via Verizon/sprint better b/c it's high speed/CDMA?>
i don't know what's better for a ppc/phone...GSM or CDMA
Yes, I find the PPC phone bulky at times, especially if I'm in my gym clothes and wanna jog, or bike, or simply want to go shopping mall hopping. Tat's why I have the Moto V551 for these times.
WiFi is built-in in the SX66, but PPC6600/6601/XV6600 you have to buy an SD WiFi card, which sticks out of the slot. Since WiFi is not always available, unless you're in a hotspot, it is not always practical. The carrier's CDMA or GSM coverage are still needed.
CDMA vs. GSM? Well, Verizon's CDMA EVDO is the fastest, but most expensive at $45/month. Sprint CDMA 1XRTT is fast enough at $15/month, and Cingular GSM/GPRS is kind of slow at $19.99~$39.99/M.
Has anyone tried to use Cingular's "Voice Connect"?
Voice Connect
Cingular Voice Connect offers three great services in one—voice dialer, voice information services, and voice entertainment services.
Voice Dialer—Simply speak the name or number of the person you want to reach and we’ll dial their number. With Voice Dialer you no longer have to fumble through an address book, scroll through a contact list, or use your keypad.
Voice Information Services—Say a voice prompt and get the most current information on news, sports, movies, stocks, lottery results, and more.
Voice Entertainment Services—Receive information on your phone, such as trivia, jokes of the day, wake-up calls, or ways to escape a date.
It works fine but you still have to use the phone to initiate the call. Once you connect to Voice Connect you can talk through the headset to dial anyone.
Originally posted by 23109VC the form factor/ size is another issue to me.
for my needs, I really don't *have* to have a converged device. it would just be neat.
I work out of an office, and my job does not require travel, and I'm only away from my desk for short periods of time during the day. on weekends, i have both the phone and PDA with me, but can get by with just the phone. i use the Pda mostly for phone nubmers when I am out on the weekend..and 90% of the number I do call routinely are in the phone.
i simply like the idea of getting my emails into my pda for convenience. i can do it with my ipaq/BT phone but they charge me a lot. but I dn't have a data plan. maybe a data plan would cut those costs and it would be more cost effective..
If Wifi isn't a big issue with you ... check out the Jam ... I just got mine and I love it ... I do lots of relational data base stuff at work and this little phone handles it great ... it's smaller than say the Treo 600 and has all the power of my PDA2k ... I have sold my H6315 and the PDA2k ... this little phone is so kewl ... and sooooooo small ... not antena to poke you ... chekc it out ... sounds like it might be a match for your needs.
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Kyo 6035, Sam I300, Sam I330, Kyo 7315, Treo 600, Sam I600, Sam I700, GL1000, HP6315, SX56, PDA2K, Jam, Xv6600 W/cam, Treo 650, I730 Wm2K3, Treo 700W, I730 w/WM 5.0, XV6700, Moto Q (Silver), Treo 700WX, xv6700 wm6, Moto Q Black, Moto Q9m, Sam I760, xv6800, xv6900, Q9C, Touch Pro, iPhone 3G 16G, iPhone 3gs 32G ... not even gonna list the non converged units
Originally posted by lgreenberg In regards to anyone interested in the JAM.
If you're with Cingular, wait. The 850 band version of the JAM is set to be out in about two weeks.
What else does Cingular have lined up? They seem too secretive about any of their introductions. Before I cancel Cingular, if they have something better than the SX66 coming out, I will hold off.
Sprint PPC6600 seems tempting, price wise and data plan cost wise, but its the same flavor like the SX66, with a camera, and no WiFi. Their 1XRTT network is much faster though. I get a 142 kbps throughput, compared to Cingular GPRS at 30-45 kbps.
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