if u want ur treo unlock i can give u the firmware update and link to download the needed software and instruction, but tell u first i could not find the way to do the hard reset on the treo 600 if anyone know think of it as a trade for unlock ur treo mail me please
Im thinking abt unlocking an ATT Wireless Treo. I tend to travel internationally and it would help to be able to swap out SIM cards. Does anyone know any cons as to why one should NOT unlock? The only thing I could think of would involve firmware upgrades via the original provider (ie, ATT). Is that true?
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You are hosting ROM files for the Treo 600 on your website. You have both official and hacked versions of our software available for public download. Please cease and desist from hosting these files; we hold the copyright to these ROMs and have a right to protect the subsidy pricing of our handsets for our wireless service providers. This is a friendly warning to ask you to remove the files; I have not yet involved our legal department or your hosting company, RackSpace. I will be forced to do so very shortly if you do not remove the file downloads.
Hosting copyrighted software is not a legitimate way to drive traffic to your community website but I laud your creation of a site devoted to Treo smartphones.
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Dave
Sorry guys, if you look long and hard enough then they are still there, we're thinking hard about how to make these files available again. BitTorrent looks an option. PalmOne seem to enjoy antagonising their customers at the moment, soon they wont have any left to worry about.
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I got my MSL code from sprint (I can change the phone number on the phone), the problem is that I want to activate this phone in Venezuela and I cant seem to be able to change the System ID and other carrier specific information.
Along with the truckload of others that were duped into buying a Treo that has been monopolized by a particular carrier, I would strongly urge all of you to file a complaint with the FCC.
It is unimaginable to believe that the FCC would allow wireless carriers to proprietize a piece of equipment that they do not own or have any entitlement to.
If a wireless carrier did subsidize a piece of equipment (which isn’t much of a subsidy at $500+) their recourse is the contractual obligation they FORCE you into.
What is worse is that I bought the Treo 600 from Sprint at full price with no contract and without any kind of activation plan of cellular line. Why do they sell it without a phone line if I cant use it elsewhere? Im returning mine.
CaLaw - interesting post. May I ask are you legally qualified? I have always been miffed by this issue and would appreciate exchanging emails on the subject if you didn't mind. Please reply to my im if this would be ok.
That form looks daunting but I too urge people to make use of it and lodge a complaint.
rriveroll that sucks.
Just to update you, I had another (*slightly* patronising) email from P1 putting their request "into context". I'd love to know what a lawyer makes of their theory that "A subsidy is in effect a low- cost loan for purchase of a phone." Hmm I dont remember signing a loan, I "bought" the handset. Thoughts anyone?
(No apologies for the S in patronising, I'm British and we invented the language )
Happy treoing
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eChris, I was going to message you but I thought that I would post so that everyone could view.
As for my legal background, I graduated from law school a few short weeks ago and am currently in the process of studying for the July CA State Bar Exam.
In speaking with the resolution department (or should I say no solution department [OPINION]) at AT&T wireless, Paragraph D of the terms and conditions state that AT&T have the right to lock your equipment.
That being said, the CA Supreme Court, last month ruled that a Farmers Insurance exclusion crammed into the middle of their policy was not binding on the insured because they did not knowingly and voluntarily consent to the exclusion.
(For those who care, Farmers limits the liability of a permissive driver to the CA minimums despite the policy limits...plain English, if you have 250k of liability insurance on your vehicle and you let your brother drive your car to the store and in the process he runs over little Johnnie down the street...Farmers will only pay the CA minimum [15k/30k] and you the vehicle owner can get stuck holding the bag for the damages over and above.)
Now after that long-winded speech, in my OPIONION, an argument could be made that the cellular phone owners would not purchase equipment from carriers if they knew that the carrier was going to have a proprietary interest on the phone.
Without providing that knowledge to which a buyer would consent by purchase, I believe one could successfully challenge the enforcement of such agreement.
I know that the carriers state that the lock protects their contractual obligation of the customers, to that I argue, the FINE imposed for early termination (usually like $150-200) is liquidated damages for such termination. (Similar to the purchase of a home where a buyer places earnest money in escrow in case the buyer backs out of the transaction.)
At this point I don’t have the time to got to war (sorry to use the term [and no disrespect to the military in harms way] but it will be) with AT&T, however if this battle is still raging on in August after the Bar Exam, I fully intend to institute legal proceedings against AT&T, and obtain class action status, so as to litigate this very issue.
FYI: CA cellular customers, yesterday the CA Public Utilities Commission (PUC) enacted a cellular customers bill of rights. I Strogly urge affected CA residents to file a complaint at http://www.cpuc.ca.gov/static/forms/complaint.htm.
Not to seem too stupid, but just what is "locking"? Does that mean hardware purchased from one network can't be used on another? Does it mean no roaming?
I have done a search on this site but all I find is references to how to defeat it, not what it really means to me, a new Sprint user.
If it means it allows roaming but not transferring, if I have a 2 year agreement with Sprint, should I care?
Good dialog guys. Let me shed a little more light on this.
First off, the subsidy is more than the penalty that they charge in many cases, so they would be potentially taking a loss if you discontinued the service, even after you paid the penalty. I'm sure we could get a good debate going on that, but I can tell you that there are cases when this could happen.
The Treo 600 is also a good case study since it is available from many carriers, and from no carrier (from PalmOne). The pricing on the PalmOne branded device is around $699 by the time it gets to a customer, while the pricing on a branded one through a carrier is much, much less... as low as $399 in some instances. And, the carrier phones ARE branded with the carrier logo on them. I am reasonably sure that they have plenty of language in the required contract to explain the locking, although I haven't looked for it. So, if they are selling something that is branded with their logo, then I think the buyer could assume that there is something different about the T-Mobile branded device from the Cingular or AT&T branded device.
Now, personally I have the most experience with T-Mobile. They will give you an unlock code for free IF you have a contract, and you make a case for needing it (i.e., you plan to travel abroad). Not much complaint there. To my knowledge, AT&T Wireless will not give unlock codes for any reason.
Originally posted by ChrisCowles Not to seem too stupid, but just what is "locking"? Does that mean hardware purchased from one network can't be used on another? Does it mean no roaming?
I have done a search on this site but all I find is references to how to defeat it, not what it really means to me, a new Sprint user.
If it means it allows roaming but not transferring, if I have a 2 year agreement with Sprint, should I care?
If a handset is locked, it can only be used on the carrier's network who you purchased the phone from as well as in areas where the carrier has a roaming agreement with another carrier. So no, as long as your carrier has a roaming agreement with another carrier, you will still be able to use your phone to roam onto that other network whether your phone is locked or not (locking does not affect roaming).
Since you have a two yr contract with Sprint, locking is probably not a concern for you. It would be a concern if after two years (or if you decided to terminate your contract early and pay the $150 fee) you wanted to switch service to a different CDMA carrier like Verizon and use their network as the main service provider for your T600. However, by the time 2 yrs has past, the T600 will be ancient technology and you will likely want something more up to date.
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