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Old 04-04-2003, 12:56 PM
     
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New Threads being removed

Any reason why new threads posted are removed from this board for some authors while other meaningless (useless) threads are left up?
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ok guys let's move this one to the trash

 
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Same question here.

Can you give examples? I can only think of one at this point, dealing with the march madness for the cell phones. I think that belongs in the 7135 discussion.
 
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That one was moved to General....

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Not that anyone asked me, but as the author of one of the March Madness threads, I agree with the decision to move it. By the way, I was a sysop on a Compuserve forum for almost 20 years, and I certainly appreciate the care that the discussion board managers here have taken to maintain all of smartphonesource.com.
 
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Old 04-04-2003, 05:43 PM
     
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I moved this thread to the Site News/Ideas thread, b/c it deals with how the "site" works, and not how the 7135 works....

Now, on to the question, the moderators move some threads that would fit better or get a better response in another category...for instance, this thread does not directly relate to the 7135, but more directly relates to how "Smartphonesource.com" works...therefore it really doesn't belong in the 7135 category.

As far as threads getting "removed" perhaps they were merged with another thread discussing the same issue. This helps prevent the board from getting overcluttered.

And, as far as "meaningless" threads, could you give examples?
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agreed. if i move merge a thread i will send a pm to the author of the post to let him know where it is... unless it was moved to a thread with the same or similar topic. most of the time a post is merged with another thread already discussing the issue..

as long as the person is aware of where the post goes, there should not be a problem IMO... each section of this forum gets looked at on a daily basis. :UpThum
 
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Old 04-19-2003, 03:21 PM
     
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Fine, but there are a lot of threads being unnecessarily (IMO) moved from "Kyocera 7135 | 7135 Discussion" to the "Off topic | General discussion" forum. Threads that clearly qualify as "7135 Discussion - General Discussion. Anything goes".

Just how does a thread on "should I return my 7135?" not qualify there? Or a thread discussing a review of the 7135?

Perhaps the moderators are using some strange new definitions of "7135", "General", "discussion", or "anything" that I'm not aware of?

Perhaps the real rules for the "7135 Discussion" forum could be spelled out somewhere, so that posters could make fewer mistakes when they create new threads? Whatever the rules are they're clearly more restrictive than any ordinary interpretation of "7135 Discussion - General Discussion. Anything goes" would lead a reasonable person to believe.

I'd think the "off topic | general discussion" forum was for things not pertaining to the 7135 or 6035. Things like other phones, other mobile phone technologies, and so on. The trouble is that many of the threads recently moved from "7135 Discussion" most certainly do pertain to the 7135. Moving them violates a fundamental principle of organization of information (not just discussion forums): You want to keep threads in the most specifically chartered forum where they fit; it's almost never a good idea to move a thread from a more-specific forum to a less-specific one, unless it clearly doesn't fit where it is.

By the way, I have a lot of experience in moderating discussion forums too. My experience led me to believe that moving a thread because you think it will get a better response is almost always a bad idea; as a matter of fact, moving a thread often results in killing it, as the original participants don't necessarily check up on its new home. Even if they follow the link to the new thread, that doesn't mean they check up on it after that, because the link in the old forum doesn't show when there are later responses. On the forums I worked on the conclusion was that a thread should only be moved if it is clearly out of place for the charter of its original home.

> as long as the person is aware of where the post goes, there
> should not be a problem IMO... each section of this forum gets
> looked at on a daily basis.

Maybe by the moderators. But not by the readers and potential responders. Readers tend to pick a few topic headings and follow them, and check up on the others occasionally if ever. You need to email not just the original poster, but also everyone else who posted in the moved thread.

And even with an explanatory email, having a thread you started, or even responded to, get moved, does not feel good. To a lot of posters it feels like a form of censorship; to some others it feels like being told "you did something wrong", even if it's just "we thought this other forum would be a better fit."

In particular a LOT of the threads moved recently have been not completely pro-7135, some have been outright critical... and the result feels to me like the moderators are trying to shunt all those negative opinions away from the main 7135 area of the site. Even if this isn't the case (and I'd like to believe it isn't), this is a bad impression to give, or even take a small risk of giving.
 
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Not that anyone asked me, but as the author of one of the March Madness threads, I agree with the decision to move it.
Well, as author of one of the others, I don't agree. How on earth could it be construed as NOT being about the 7135???
 
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Old 04-19-2003, 08:25 PM
     
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'Meaningless' threads.....None, but you can remove all of my posted comments, they are pretty much 'meaningless' if not down right distracting. LOL

I have never posted on any boards before. Thanks for the opportunity to try it out. Thanks to critics, too!

Suggest that e-mailing folks about moved threads should be limited to those that signed up for a thread...as it may be already.

This board is growing, and growing, so I feel good seeing that it is being managed. But then I've been lurking and learning for 10 months and have more trust than some that decisions are good.

Question, anything being done about the statistics on the number of views, comments, etc.? Seems like negative threads get a lot of view hits. Maybe new owners prefer negative comments and problem related subjects first. Might help some to know how to put in key words into their thread title to attract readers.

'Help' seems to mean - 'Too excited to stop and do a search'!
 
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all sections of This board get viewed, so it doesn't mater where the thread is placed as Long as the redirect is there. the "definition" of the general section may need to me re worded.

imo, the only reason i can see someone complaining about moving a post is because you don't get post credit in the general section. as i have said before, every section of this great forum gets viewed!

as more and more people come on board since the 7135 has finally been released, there will be (and has already been) a huge increase threads to appear and there will be some of them that will get moved to their respective places.:Smoke:
 
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