Hi all. I've been thinking, this phone does not have a minutes-used counter. It would be nice to have an application that could give you minutes used for different settings. For example if one could set the peak hours and off peak hours on the App, one could query the minutes used for each of those usage zones.

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You could just log into sprintpcs.com and check out your bill. A pqa might be nice.

I know you can log on to the site, or you can dial *4 and find out too, but they are never accurate. In fact my last two bills were $75 over the normal amount even though the site showed that I had 177 mts( last bill ) left just a few hours before the new cycle.

The data they post is very old and not reliable at all.

Msik

There's one for the Kyocera phone:
http://freewarepalm.com/communicatio...ecounter.shtml

its accurate than any app counter will ever be..

i check it via the WAP on the i300 and *4 and they are always on track for me...

if you are just starting out then your first couple of bills will be hard to judge anyway...

the 6035 app wont work for the i300 as the i300 has no call history DB as the 6035 does... thats how that app works..
i never used it with my 6035 as the pcs WAP and *4 always kept me on track...

if you want post your "wish list" for this phone, theres a thread for that...

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i check it via the WAP on the i300 and *4 and they are always on track for me...
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Hey Marctronix, how do you WAP using the i300? Is it WAP enabled??

Thanks,
Msik

...the Sprint Web.

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yep, as mj sugested...

ther is a "sprint Web" on the i300.. if it isnt, it shuld be on the CD that came with the phone...

you go to the main menu and tap the "@sprintpcs" near the bottom...

it has been very accurate for me, and im sure it will be for you.

help me out here - i'm in the phone gui and activate the menu. i select calls | outgoing, and there's the list of the outgoing calls, along with the incoming and missed. isn't that a call history db? granted I don't see a duration on the details window, but i'm curious if you're talking about some sort of different db...

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what i mean is....


yeah we have a little call history db but it does not hold enuff calls to make the app deduct the correct amount of minutes used.. on the 6035 for example, you can set it to list "9999" calls in the list... thereby making the app do a good job at counting muntes since there are soo many numbers it can deduct from.. of course if you go past this number, its possibile the minute counter wont be accurate as you will start to chop off old numbers..

thats why it makes super sense to just use *4 (free) and the WAP on the i300... what more flexibility does one need....

But, all the app would have to do is increment the existing number of mts by the mts used during the current call- that's all!! Why do you need a database for this?

You start with two Integers, both set to zero, one for peak hours and the other for off-peak hours- peakInt & offpeakInt.

Then, depending on the current time at which the call is made one of the integers is incremented by the duration of the current call. No databases to keep track of, just two integers!! Am I missing something here?

Msik

Yep - that feature in your phone

I've also wondered why the phones don't track this, but it's likely that the phone companies don't want them to, to avoid the inevitable question:

"My phone say I used ____ minutes, but my bill says ____. ".....

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your text book theory may even work, but for the counter used for the 6035 (kyocera), it uses the call history db.

also, if you ever run into a cold reset.. the app loses its info.

Ya, I understand that
but how hard could it be to save two integers in non-volatile memory, when apps like life-balance, memo-pad, etc. etc. can save entire databases?

Lets put aside the App for the Kyocera, that App is using data available for that phone. That is another issue, I'm talking about a new app here.

I still maintain that one does not need a call history db to track minutes used.

The fact that that theory is a basal text book theory does not discount it's efficacy.

I apologise if my tone seems a bit belligerent, I don't intend it to. Thanks for keeping the debate alive

Msik

i dont give any of these words on this board or the net any power to phase me, so you can "talk" however you like..

well the initial post was about the kyocera phones minute counter and thats why iim saying that particular counter wont work for the i300..

i dont know if yours will work but why not develop it.. or if you dont have the means to develop it, petition someone else who does...


i dont want or need a minute counter, as they wont always be accurate.. with resets and 3rd party apps sometimes causing errors in the palm environment, i would not trust the app..

*4 and the WAP on the browse web works withuot any effort from me. a couple of taps on the wab and i see all i need to know.. even the status of my invoice and other information the minute counter could not provide...

sprint has done a good job of making this available for us , and i dont understand the issues some folks have withnot using it...

since they allowed this on the WW back in '99 it has always been good to me. and thats what i will continue to use.

..but of course theirs always one more opinon so bring 'em on...

Hmmm, has anyone else had any problems about the accuracy of info provided by Sprint about airtime usage on their web site and *4?

I have in my last 2 billing cycles, and when I call them they've always maintained that the info will NEVER be accurate. This is what THEY say!! They also pointed out that the info on the web site is only an estimate and it says so on the site.

When I asked them how old the information posted on the site could be, they refused to give me a specific answer. So I asked them- "Could it be a week old"? Ans- "Yes", then I asked, "Could it be several weeks old"? Their reply was "Don't know".

Now what am I to make of this given their own admission of posting data that is not up-to-date, buttressed by my own experience in billing?

I'll wait for my next bill, and for my current cycle I'm making sure that I have more than 500 mts remaining as displayed by their web-site a couple of hours before the cycle ends.

BTW, one thing that I can vouch for is that the info on *4 and on the web-site is always the same.

Thanks all.

Msik

this is a disclaimer so you wont try to sue them or whatever if the site experiences a problem (in this microsoft world )

ill admit i never get detailed in the checking of my time vs. whats on the site (especially now since i have a truckload of minutes), but i have never had any errors in accuracy that made me go over..

a couple of times whan i had 1k days and 1k nights, i was keeping track of my minutes and once i went over and so i carefully was keeping tabs on my usage.. when i got my bill for that the site was current with the bill..

yeah even the website is prone to screw up, everything has this property, but as of yet its been good to me..

And the disclaimer will always be there, so you'll NEVER be able to match what shows on your bill. If there were a hack for the i300, it , too, would not match exactly... So, is there any significant gain here with a hack...?

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