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Old 10-26-2007, 12:26 AM
     
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How to get the most out of the camcorder

I've learned some facts about the camcorder worth sharing in a new thread.

First, and most importantly, the camera is set to limit the video recording to a length that will fit in an MMS by default. This is why it stops at 15 seconds. To set it to No Limit, open the camera, switch to camcorder mode, and in menu #2 switch from Limit for MMS to No Limit.

A nice by-product of this change is feature #2, image quality. When the camcorder is set to MMS limit, it only records in economy setting. Once you switch to no limit, the menu choices under menu #3 for Fine and Normal enable. Fine is actually pretty decent for a by-product camcorder slapped on the back of a PDA phone that does a bazillion other things.

I also found this webcam app when I was shopping in the site store: PDAPhone.com. It supports all kinds of settings, even up to 1280x960. LOL, at .5 fps though. At 320x240, it holds about a 3.6-4.0 fps. The picture is actually as good as most webcams you'd pay for. The app lacks the usual correction settings most webcams have, but it's a decent little way to converge your webcam into your phone and carry one less toy, weary traveller.
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great find.....thanks sleeve....You planning on using the webcam app via bluetooth?
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It can be used over Bluetooth, but I'm having some grief getting Bluetooth ActiveSync to work with my Vista system. It's working fine with my XP system. I figure I'll grab one of these sync and charge cables and run it powered. Although the idea of wandering away from the laptop with the camera untethered is interesting enough that now I want to download the PC driver on my XP system and see how far I can wander and how good an image I get with Bluetooth.
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yeah that i was thinking......a wireless web cam.....Let me know what the image quality is like and far you can go!! Thanks man...
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So what does this webcam app do? I looked at the download but don't see any kind of description.
 
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For specs, click on app name above the photo
 
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ryno, 18~20 feet, 320x240, ~3.1-3.5 fps, and it uses the i760's mic for BT audio in to the IM apps. I have not tried using BT stereo headphones to see if audio from your IM chat partner can play through them.

cgilbert, when you are connected to a computer using either Bluetooth or USB ActiveSync, and you open any instant messaging program that can use a webcam to video chat, you can set the webcam option in your chat software to use a camera called "WebCamera Plus". When you do this, the camcorder in the i760 activates and the microphone in the i760 provides Bluetooth audio in.

This software does not have typical hue/saturation/brightness/gamma/contrast settings like most Logitech cameras have, but the camera itself actually does a solid job of automatic white balancing and in good lighting the colors are vibrant, not washed out or chromed.

One thing you may need to do is go into the advanced settings and rotate the image 90 degrees. The app starts out in portrait mode with black bars on the side but if you rotate it, it fills the frame. I run it at 320x240 and the default quality level. The results are nearly identical to my Logitech Quickcam.

When you initially start the app, it is shooting in VERY low resolution and the picture looks like garbage. Mess with the settings, it really makes a huge difference.

There is a free trial of the app, try it out, it shoots for about a minute.
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thanks sleeve... i will be trying it out tomorrow....thats amazing you can be so far away from your computer...I love technology...!!
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Is there any way with the stock Camcorder app to record video at 320x240 resolution? Default seems to only record at 176x144.
 
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I think you need the software listed above.
 
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Webcam via WiFi?

Anyone know of software that would let you use the i760 as a webcam via WiFi instead of Bluetooth?

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Is there any way with the stock Camcorder app to record video at 320x240 resolution? Default seems to only record at 176x144.
I've installed the webcam app on my wife's PN-820 and she gets 1280x960 or 176x144 only. On mine, I also get 320x240 and 640x480. So there is an ability to detect 4 usable resolutions, but it isn't obvious in the registry. The camcorder is definitely capable of good 320x240 imaging, but I think only at webcam FPS rates. Webcam users are tolerant of a little stutter. But a video that stutters is not so great. I think Samsung locked the app at low res to keep the fps up around 10 and to focus on sending videos over MMS to phones that can't view 320x240.

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Anyone know of software that would let you use the i760 as a webcam via WiFi instead of Bluetooth?
Ryan, actually this app I'm using works over WiFi. It even works over EVDO. There's a screen where you set the IP of the system that receives the video. That IP can be any system on your network, or given proper firewall handling of port 2047 (the one it uses, which you can change - think port 80 for HTTP tunnelling) you can send your video to, uhm, any computer anywhere.

Grab a free trial, this app is a rock, not the slightest problem with it. It's sold in our Mobihand store, and that means 15% off until the 15th.
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Very cool, thanks for the information, I'll check it out when my phone arrives tomorrow!
 
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Could you pop a sample video up on a site somewhere??
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I cant get this to work over wifi or evdo. just says connecting... and multiple attempts. I would imagine that the network setting would be for the host and you use a web browser to point to the video source. correct?
 
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The WebCam software doesn't produce a page for display in a web browser...it displays the camera feed to software on your PC. So you can use it as a webcam with Yahoo. If you want to display the image on a web I use Yawcam (www.yawcam.com) to capture the feed from the phone and then display it on the web.
 
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I cant get this to work over wifi or evdo. just says connecting... and multiple attempts. I would imagine that the network setting would be for the host and you use a web browser to point to the video source. correct?
Once WebCamera Plus is running, it becomes a camera device. Apps like Messenger can use it as a camera.

When you want to connect over wifi or EVDO, you need to go into menu, settings, network and shut off auto-detect IP. Auto-detect IP works fine for ActiveSync, it sets up a small fake network between the i760 and your PC. When you're on a real network, you shut this off and you provide the IP address of the computer running the PC client for WebCamera Plus, and they'll connect just fine as long as there's no firewall in the way or the firewalls that do exist are configured right.
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