Its been pretty well established (because of the similar Blackjack issues) that this problem originated with Samsung. But, whether its purely their issue, or some incompatibility with Verizon's crap and/or voice command, who knows?
Btw, the 6800 does not come with voice command, but rather another thing called "voice speed dial", although several on the other board report installing voice command without any problems.
At this point, even if a fix appeared for this, I'd stick with the 6800.
ebb, I am very happy for you.
I am hopping that with the new business model that VZW is adopting that we will see a replacement for the i760 and the 6800 by the end of 2008.
These type of issue should diminish I hope.
Good luck and don't be a stranger!
Mark
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How confident are you guys that Verizon/Samsung will come up with a solution to the bluetooth issue?
Reason I ask this is I have to do an exchange on my i760 due to a problem with the i760 and I have the option to trade into the HTC xv6800 Mogul.
I LOVE the i760, hard dial keys, A2DP, small form factor, nice slider, picsel browser. BUT what I DON'T LIKE is that there are no car cradles for it that will give stereo output, the i760 has the bluetooth issue, proprietary connector, and accidentally hanging up on someone once in a while due to the talk button on the side.
The 6800 already has a car cradle out with stereo output you just slide it in and aux ready, no bluetooth issues, blackberry like scroll wheel, rev A upgradeable, 2+ megapixel camera,uses standard USB connection, BUT what I DON'T LIKE is that it is a little heavier, and the look isn't as slick.
I am not sure they think it is a problem. They seem to be making their Bluetooth functionality that way thinking they are providing some sort of added value with this approach. It is not unlike their approach to the non-standard USB interface at the bottom of the device. I am so happy with the TyTN II on the other network, that I may keep this as a spare and buy an 6800. At least I know I can get all kinds of tweaks and fixes from HTC that we cannot seem to get on Samsung.
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How confident are you guys that Verizon/Samsung will come up with a solution to the bluetooth issue?
Reason I ask this is I have to do an exchange on my i760 due to a problem with the i760 and I have the option to trade into the HTC xv6800 Mogul.
I LOVE the i760, hard dial keys, A2DP, small form factor, nice slider, picsel browser. BUT what I DON'T LIKE is that there are no car cradles for it that will give stereo output, the i760 has the bluetooth issue, proprietary connector, and accidentally hanging up on someone once in a while due to the talk button on the side.
The 6800 already has a car cradle out with stereo output you just slide it in and aux ready, no bluetooth issues, blackberry like scroll wheel, rev A upgradeable, 2+ megapixel camera,uses standard USB connection, BUT what I DON'T LIKE is that it is a little heavier, and the look isn't as slick.
The BT problem is an issue for me also.
Try the xv6800. Let us know what you think.
Good Luck Mark
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FYI I got the Plantronics Voyager headset and it reconnects to my phone automatically as soon as I turn it on. My motorola headset didn't do this.
I'm not sure what you're getting at with this remark. I hope that I'm not misinterpreting your intent.
There doesn't appear to be any problem when using any single BT device (including my old Moto headset) with regard to connecting or reconnecting with the i760.
The problem is that whichever device the i760 is connected to is the only one that it will pay attention to from that point forward. The only way to overcome this is to manually select between alternate devices (the selected device will then become the only device the phone responds to).
As I stated in another thread, the behavior I expected from the i760 was what I had seen with my old Moto V710. With that phone, I could get into my car, and the phone and car's BT handsfree would automatically hook up. When I left the car and turned my BT headset on, the phone would automatically switch to the headset without any intervention from me. Then, when I returned to the car and turned off the headset, the phone would automatically switch back to the car's handsfree link. (Incidentally, I also have a Plantronics Voyager BT headset in my office and a BT dongle on my PC at home, and they both would also automatically link up with the old V710!)
To accomplish the same end result with the i760 I have to either use the home screen Menu button (via the right soft key), select Bluetooth Setting, then the Headset tab, and select the desired device; or I can do the same thing with an extra step or two (!) from the home screen dropdown Start menu.
actually, there is a problem with using a single BT device. If the BT is always within range of the i760, then I guess there is no problem. If the i760 goes out of range of the BT device for some period, it will uncheck the handsfree, and not automatically reconnect when it comes into range.
actually, there is a problem with using a single BT device. If the BT is always within range of the i760, then I guess there is no problem. If the i760 goes out of range of the BT device for some period, it will uncheck the handsfree, and not automatically reconnect when it comes into range.
actually, there is a problem with using a single BT device. If the BT is always within range of the i760, then I guess there is no problem. If the i760 goes out of range of the BT device for some period, it will uncheck the handsfree, and not automatically reconnect when it comes into range.
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This man speaks the truth!
This definitely does not happen to me!
I have 4 BT devices paired with my i760. But because the phone won't switch between devices, I have mine set to use my car's BT handsfree as the "default". I can assure you that there are many, many times during the day and night when my car is nowhere near in range (for example: I car pool, and I park my car some 25 miles or so away from my office), yet my phone and car reestablish their connection as soon as I start the car... every time, without a single failure, ever.
I have 4 BT devices paired with my i760. But because the phone won't switch between devices, I have mine set to use my car's BT handsfree as the "default". I can assure you that there are many, many times during the day and night when my car is nowhere near in range (for example: I car pool, and I park my car some 25 miles or so away from my office), yet my phone and car reestablish their connection as soon as I start the car... every time, without a single failure, ever.
What's going on, here?!?
Do you have multiple BT handsfree profiles? If so, do they interchange as you move from one to the other (e.g. does your BT ear headset connect when you turn it on and then does your phone automatically connect to the car handsfree when you get in it). The problem is that having multiple handsfree devices forces you to manually switch from one to the other. This should be automatic.
I have multiple BT devices...handsfree, GPS, PC Card; but they aren't using the same service so there isn't a problem. I can connect to them all simultaneously. The problem is having more than one BT device defined for the same service...in this case: handsfree. Samsung needs to fix this because it is a particular pain for folks with handsfree car systems.
Do you have multiple BT handsfree profiles? If so, do they interchange as you move from one to the other (e.g. does your BT ear headset connect when you turn it on and then does your phone automatically connect to the car handsfree when you get in it). The problem is that having multiple handsfree devices forces you to manually switch from one to the other. This should be automatic.
I have multiple BT devices...handsfree, GPS, PC Card; but they aren't using the same service so there isn't a problem. I can connect to them all simultaneously. The problem is having more than one BT device defined for the same service...in this case: handsfree. Samsung needs to fix this because it is a particular pain for folks with handsfree car systems.
I was responding to the folks who said that they have problems reconnecting even a single BT device!
I don't have the time to research it right now, but does anyone know if the reconnecting to multiple devices automatically is defined as a requirement of the Bluetooth spec that the i760 claims to implement?
IANAL, but if it does, then maybe there is some legality we can hold over their head sort of like false advertising that might make them more inclined to get us a fix.
Or along the same lines, maybe there's an issue with their ability to legally mention the spec if they aren't fully compliant with it. For an app to be Java compliant and legally be able to advertise as such, they have to pass tests that verify compliance with the requirements, so maybe a similar thing is true with Bluetooth?
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I believe that the 760 will uncheck the handsfree with only some single devices. It does this to me with my 2004 Prius, which is the only BT device I have paired.
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I believe that the 760 will uncheck the handsfree with only some single devices. It does this to me with my 2004 Prius, which is the only BT device I have paired.
That is what I posted earlier in this thread. With a few more weeks use under my belt, it appears that the unchecking of the handsfree box is part of some error routine, i.e., there is some intereference with the signal or you go out of range from the phone. I cannot prove it, but it seems to go into this error mode when it senses some other bluetooth signal, not withstanding that the phone is programmed to be undiscoverable.
All I know is that the BT issue is significant, and it's pervasive, and nobody in charge seems to care.
Do you have multiple BT handsfree profiles? If so, do they interchange as you move from one to the other (e.g. does your BT ear headset connect when you turn it on and then does your phone automatically connect to the car handsfree when you get in it). The problem is that having multiple handsfree devices forces you to manually switch from one to the other. This should be automatic.
I have multiple BT devices...handsfree, GPS, PC Card; but they aren't using the same service so there isn't a problem. I can connect to them all simultaneously. The problem is having more than one BT device defined for the same service...in this case: handsfree. Samsung needs to fix this because it is a particular pain for folks with handsfree car systems.
And a potential driving hazard.
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This Sounds Like Multiple BT Errors, Rather Than Only One
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I believe that the 760 will uncheck the handsfree with only some single devices. It does this to me with my 2004 Prius, which is the only BT device I have paired.
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Originally Posted by LawyerInNC
... it appears that the unchecking of the handsfree box is part of some error routine, i.e., there is some intereference with the signal or you go out of range from the phone. I cannot prove it, but it seems to go into this error mode when it senses some other bluetooth signal, not withstanding that the phone is programmed to be undiscoverable. ...
Folks, after reading some of these most recent posts, it seems to me that people are experiencing different manifestations of the BT issue. When this thread was started (and as the title clearly indicates), it was about difficulty automatically reconnecting multiple BT devices (with the focus on headsets, as I interpreted it). But now we have at least one person who is having difficulty reconnecting with only a single device! We also have folks talking about multiple profiles, though I'm not sure if there's a problem there.
Furthermore, people are describing different behaviors, apparently when they're discussing similar setups (i.e., my phone never fails to reconnect to my car's handsfree, while Evil_Attorney is having trouble connecting with his car).
My point is this: It seems that the i760 BT issue may be more complicated
than initially thought (at least by me... I thought it was a problem only when using multiple devices). Perhaps we should formally poll to see what BT malfunctions/issues are out there?
I suspect the issues with reconnecting a single device might have more to do with the other hardware (headset, carkit, etc) than the i760. I have certain handsfree devices that will automatically reconnect (when checked as the handsfree device of course), and other that won't, even when checked as the handsfree device.
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