If anyone has a test device now is the time to create and save an image.
VZW tech service is so bad they have to dummy up the UI.
Good God! I will be staying with my i730 if this is true!
I have a feeling that this isn't true becuase MS would not allow it.
You all give me a hard time for sending my phone back when it's not working 100%. You all live with a phone that has been crippled and doesn't work 100% and do nothing about it. Me, on the other hand, will send the phone back once per week (until i get bored), that's how i voice my problems. When i get my I760, the first time it locks up, 2 things will happen. 1. we will start counting in this forumn, 2. i will get the replacement phone(s) (and probably not in that order).
With few exceptions, the reason anyone's i730 locks up continually is due to the software that we install on the phone, where we install it, and how it interacts with the rest of the phone. If we send it back and get a replacement, and then re-install our software the same way, and get the same results, that is not the fault of the phone. Isn't there a quote somewhere that says the definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again expecting to get different results?
Whenever the i760 arrives, I surely hope that there are improvements over the i730. But, we are only fooling ourselves if we think that it won't have some of the inherent potential problems that we have seen with literally every new release of Windows Mobile and new pda phone to date. If you put a new coat of paint on an old house, you now have a clean old house. But, its still the same old house.
My I730 will not function with "Software added". I have the XCPU scalar and that's about it. oh. VC 1.6, well i have a few NECESSITIES. My phone sits at work next to the charger. I gave up on it.
If the I760 doesn't work 100%, let the wars begin. I paid for the 730 out of my pocket and will do the same on the 760, so at that point i will expect the best.
My I730 will not function with "Software added". I have the XCPU scalar and that's about it. oh. VC 1.6, well i have a few NECESSITIES. My phone sits at work next to the charger. I gave up on it.
If the I760 doesn't work 100%, let the wars begin. I paid for the 730 out of my pocket and will do the same on the 760, so at that point i will expect the best.
We have been through all this before, dangerous, in another thread, another day. And I still remember and still smile at Mark_A_K's ending response to it all.
We have been through all this before, dangerous, in another thread, another day. And I still remember and still smile at Mark_A_K's ending response to it all.
Tim, what was my response? do you have a link?
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VZW, It's 2009! Time to embrace technology, not suppress it. - oops too late I've moved on over to the iPhone w/ AT$T!
[quote=tsatryan;630217]With few exceptions, the reason anyone's i730 locks up continually is due to the software that we install on the phone, where we install it, and how it interacts with the rest of the phone. If we send it back and get a replacement, and then re-install our software the same way, and get the same results, that is not the fault of the phone. Isn't there a quote somewhere that says the definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again expecting to get different results?
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I didn't want to get into too much detail, because it's a discussion for another thread, but the only software I have installed is the Goodlink email client. I was using it on my original i730 and I'm using it on my replacement i730. I'm assuming Goodlink and the i730 don't work well together, and this is the source of my problems. Nonetheless, my colleagues who have Goodlink installed on their Treo 700W's, 8525's and 6700's report to me that their devices almost never require soft resets. This is in stark contrast to my situation where I require daily soft resets.
Many of us who work for large corporations and don't have Blackberries are forced to use Goodlink. To me, it's unacceptable that the i730 has always worked so poorly with Goodlink (both on SE 2003 and WM5.0). Goodlink is a critical application for many (if not the majority) of corporate pda email users. I'm hoping the i760 doesn't have the same problems. Also, I would hope that VZW would test Goodlink on the i760 as part of the beta program. Then again, that would make too much sense, so I'm sure they're not testing Goodlink on the device.
If we have to wait until August for the i760, I will VERY seriously consider holding out for the Treo 800w (according to HoFo, VZW release on Sept. 13) and comparing the two before making a decision (the 320x320 screen is pretty attractive...).
If we have to wait until August for the i760, I will VERY seriously consider holding out for the Treo 800w (according to HoFo, VZW release on Sept. 13) and comparing the two before making a decision (the 320x320 screen is pretty attractive...).
If we have to wait until August for the i760, I will VERY seriously consider holding out for the Treo 800w (according to HoFo, VZW release on Sept. 13) and comparing the two before making a decision (the 320x320 screen is pretty attractive...).
Just to clarify, I for one do appreciate that VZW tests and tests and tests over and over again to ensure the working nature of the product...( ironic then that sometimes we get phones with antennas that don't get any reception or things like that?) but my real gripe with VZW is not that they delay the phones. It's that when we finally do get the phone, it's crippled beyond reason so that we have to do massive "warranty voiding" edits in order to get them back to manufacturer specs. I mean honestly who among us wants to see that stupid red bar spalshed across the screen of our phone?
Also I understand that VZW is a big corporation with lots of shareholders and employees to keep happy. So they will do what they can to maximize profits. But I personally think that they're doing exactly what Microsoft did in the 90's with their Windows 95 OS and forced packaging of IE. VZW disables the Bluetooth OBEX profiles in many of their phones to force people to buy ringtones and other crap from their Get It Now service. Meanwhile people with the same phone (ie Moto Razr) on other services can freely transfer songs, ringtones, etc from phone to phone. Isn't that going a little beyond what's reasonable in the pursuit of maximizing profits?
They tried to do the same thing with the xv6700...remember when it first came out, the Wifi antenna and the CDMA antenna didn't work together? Why do you think that was? To save battery? I doubt it, rather I think they did that to force people to buy their "unlimited" data plan, even if people were in their homes and had free wifi available to them. Some of you might say, well again that's what they're in business to do, make money. Agreed, but my argument all along has been if they enable the things that the phone was designed to do, they'd have much happier customers willing to buy these other services outright.
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