Do you have a link?

Kinda: Nextel - Define Region

They use ajax, so you'll have to just filter to PDA/Smartphone and it's toward the bottom. Very yellow screen.

Looks like VZW has lost again.

i760 is supposed to be May and get pushed back.

6800 is supposed to be August and gets released 6/18/07

hmmm. Guess this also answers the import ban question. So where's my Sammy?????

I'm not sure if this has been posted before (we've hit 90 pages in this thread, woohoo!!) so forgive me if it has.

In weighing the options of currently ,or soon-to-be, available Windows Mobile phones, and having owned a Samsung i730 for nearly 2 years, I wonder what the SCH-i760 is really going to bring me.

Let's do a quick hardware spec comparison between those 2 Sammy's, shall we:

Processor: Intel Xscale @ 520MHz vs. Samsung @ 400 MHz
Memory (RAM): 64 MB vs. 64 MB
Storage (ROM): 128 MB vs. 128 MB
Screen: 2.8" @ 320x240 vs. 2.8" @ 320x240
Data: 1xEVDO rev.0 vs. 1xEVDO rev.0
USB: v1.1 vs. v1.1
WiFi: 802.11b vs. 802.11b/g
Bluetooth: v1.2 vs. v2.0 (we hope)
Camera: none vs. 1.3 MP
Size: 104x50x24mm vs. 110x60x20mm

So what are we really gaining?
A thinner but wider/longer device (albeit w/out antenna), with a different Processor (unknown results), a sub-par camera, and faster Bluetooth & WiFi.
Is this really it??? Oh sorry, Windows Mobile 6.0 is also an "upgrade" to WM5. Is that such a huge improvement?

I'm sorry to bring a damper to those who are anxiously waiting for the i760, but I feel like 2 years after bring such an exciting device (the i730) to the US, Samsung/VZW really ought to create more incentive for existing i730 users to upgrade to a new WM-phone.

When seeing the multitude of other devices out there with VGA screens, USB 2.0, 256MB flash, etc. I can't help but wonder whether VZW should get 400 of my hard-earned dollars PLUS an extension of my contract to another 2 years for what is becoming a more-and-more plain-looking device in my eyes

-Marc

You could check the 6800 forum.

I've been a perpetual lurker around here for a couple years now -- one of the guys who's always interested but never really in-the-know enough to add something insightful (Does this mean I finally think I am? Hmmm...). Post 1781 and 1787 go down as some sort of "post of the [insert your own time value here]" for me. I love the many levels of conversation that are created here, but I primarily visit the site for news, information and instruction. I'm aware of the amount of time that it takes to organize those thoughts into a clear and concise format, and I'm sure that you would say it's "no big deal" to get it done. That kind of detail gives me something to work with. I can go look up further articles, check other threads, watch for further news, etc. -- and that makes it a big deal to me. Thanks for being a "big deal" to me today and taking some extra time to make this obese thread that much more insightful.

As always, this kind of thanks must be expressed to the many developers/moderators who make conversations like this possible. Today, however, I thought KBAM's comment was especially noteworthy (I'm not the first to say so), and I wanted to speak up for the rest of us who are usually just sitting back enjoying the valuable information.

crmealey

Oh yeah, mrailing, your comment about the midair projector reminded me of a Final Fantasy movie where the main actor wore an armband (that took up her whole forearm I believe) that she fiddled with and it punched up a holographic computer that she then typed in. Maybe somebody else remembers the details better. Anyway, since you brought it up the idea again, maybe we are pointing in a direction that the Final Fantasy writer was more of a Jules Verne than I had first hoped. I'm sure there are others thinking about it too.

>Oh sorry, Windows Mobile 6.0 is also an "upgrade" to WM5. Is that such a huge improvement?

Give that WM 6.0 will support wild card certificates, it is a huge improvement for me. I will finally be able to get Outlook on WM to connect to my corporate Exchange server rather than having to log in with a tiny browser window running OWA (badly).

Now, if I could upgrade my i730 to WM 6.0, then it might not be much of a gain (although I'd like even a bit smaller and lighter).

You might not have to upgrade to WM6 to get that functionality.

I had the same issue when first upgrading from WM2003 to WM5 on my i730, as the certificates my IT department had provided me before didn't work in WM5.
But after a quick tweak of the registry, I was able to get stubborn WM5 to take the "old" certs and I was up and running again in no time

-Marc

Trying the registry hack to turn off certificate validation (which would freak out my IT dept if they knew) got me into the perpetual password loop, didn't find a work around.

I tend to agree. Since I am not having any real issues with my i730 I plan on waiting for the early adopters to work out the kinks in the 760. Also since it doesnt seem to be much of an upgrade - I think waiting til the price comes down and getting it with no contract will work out as a better option since we keep hearing about all of the so called pda's in the pipeline.

I agree with MarcG's post in #1804. It's not much of an upgrade at all.

I'll be the first to admit I jumped on the bandwagon when pictures of the phone first came out.

After endlessly playing/tweaking with my fiancee's i730 for the past year, I was ready to pounce on a i760. In fact, we both were, due to the fact she really wants a slimmer phone with the same functionality.

After seeing the side-by-side comparisons today and reading that the phone might be pushed back until august I'm kicking myself for not getting another (for myself) i730 while the getting was good.

For those of you that poo-poo the iphone, we'll just have to wait and see what the fuss is all about. I would really enjoy a phone that worked seamlessly with my Macbook Pro although I'm interested to see what "optical quality" glass looks like after it's been bounce off concrete. The sch-i730's has been dropped 4-5 times, and still works great.

I'm going follow ctgjerts stance and wait until the price comes down

A big part of the reason I view this as an upgrade to the i730 is that I fully believe that WM 5.0 doesn't "play nice" with the i730 hardware. It's just not as smooth or responsive as it should be and I still get far too many soft resets considering how little 3rd party software I have installed on the phone and how frequently I hard reset it. Smoother/snappier software combined with lighter weight, numeric keypad, sleeker design, all while keeping the solid Samsung build is enough of an upgrade to me. For what I do, I don't need the added memory that the 6800 has (I never run out of memory on my i730) and I highly doubt Rev A would add much benefit (I find that wifi is only marginally faster than Rev0). Let's face it, the cameras in these phones are still terrible compared with normal cameras, so you shouldn't be expecting any artwork coming out of a camera phone, whether it's a 1.3 MP or a 3.0 MP.

Good point bgates

Don't know about the rest of you, but we don't have a data plan simply because with the wi-fi, I found my fiancee didn't need one. Most anything we need, we either already have, can wait to get, or get it with a phone call.

Neither of us could care less about a camera on the phone. Even the best pic's from camera phones I've seen look like crap compared to my canon A75, albeit I would guess most of you usually have your phone on you more than your cameras.

I certainly put my fiancee and myself into a minority among users of this phone since she simply wanted a PDA/phone combo for making appointments on the fly, and this allowed her to lose schedule book she carried around. My purposes are essentially the same, except I'm using a little Palm PDA and a flip phone for my needs at the moment. Certainly wouldn't mind losing the Palm to a device that can do it all, in a small form factor without a bunch of added side costs like a $50mo. data plan.

While I agree with MarcG's comments (in post #1804) regarding the overwhelming lack of technological innovation and difference between the i730 and the i760, it was never about that for me. I didn't buy the i730 primarily because I didn't like handling it; I'm one of the apparent minority who doesn't like the vertical keyboard format mainly because I'm 6'5", and 270#, with hands to match. If it hadn't been for the form factor, I would have been all over the i730.

So, the i760's horizontal form factor meant love at first sight for me. And the fact that it was also otherwise so similar to the i730 was good, too, because that means that it's something of a 'known' entity.

On the other hand, I really would like to see some VZW/CDMA innovation: My 'Ho-Hum' meter is pretty much pegged.

Regarding the iPhone: The interface is everything! I absolutely love what I've seen about the iPhone's interface, and find myself drooling every time I see or hear anything about it. Unfortunately, as much as I would love to have the iPhone's interface (or the Touch interface, for that matter) on a VZW/CDMA phone, the fact is that the iPhone simply doesn't cut it for me in terms of functionality. While the battery and carrier are both issues for me, the true show-stopper is that I absolutely must be able to install 3rd party apps (I have tons of medical apps that I use every day). So the iPhone is immediately out of the running for me, no matter what else is good and wonderful about it.

So, at least 2 of the following 3 things have to happen for me to make the leap to an iPhone-like phone: either VZW comes up with a truly innovative phone (and I pray that phones like the iPhone and Touch will provide the impetus for such innovation), or GSM becomes as widely available and reliable as VZW CDMA service, and the iPhone (v.2) will have to support 3rd party apps.

*sigh* Is it really too much to expect???

Theres no worries I can hack it. I just hope that this is not the norm on here. I am here for the same as all of you....the i760. Looking forward to more good info. Thanks guys.

~The Thrizzle

Oh, I will! No doubt about it. Thanks!

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I asked them if they knew anything about the new i760.
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crmealey,

Thanks much for your sentiments. And you're right, it takes time and patience to make sense of the calamity visited upon us in the name of "mobility."

Here, we're an eager community of 60,000 with the good sense to ask questions and the will to make a difference. In navigating for empowerment, we seek the soul of a rational mobile world--that will one day serve its inhabitants.

Our messages matter.

--BAM

HA! yeah I'm hearing the same line from my clients... "Will and iPhone work for me? I really want one!" jeeze its still vaporware! can ya wait a few days so I check them out?!?!?


Never known KBAM to shy away from the subtle or urbane! Nor be concise in his replies! Nice post..
It would be great if the iPhone would initiate more independence between the manufactures and carrier's but its I think the relationship is just as much codependent as it is feudal. That codependency was fostered by the FCC as it allowed bundling and such to bring down the cost of equipment ownership in the early days...So it may take some rules changing from the Feds to push the change along... Also, If the Apple can maintain the iPhone's uniqueness and can pick up other carriers without having to bend to their preferences then perhaps there is a chance.. And if other manufactures follow suite then otherwise Apple will just be a special case. And/or it'll be like Palm's treo and there is a flavor for each carrier... LGO (Life Goes On)
Mark

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