Ditto on the Q comment. Responding to this while tethered to my Q now.
Only made mention of 8525 vs 6800 due to your comparison in size. I'm thinking the 6800 will feel closer to the i760 than it will the 8525. I think both will be about the size of 2 Qs stacked together.
I could look up the dimensions, but feeling lazy. LOL
A little more color on the Int'l Trade Comm's (ITC) "Limited Exclusion Order," regarding devices employing QCOM chipsets with power-saving micro-code "pirated" from (oops, "infringing upon") BRCM.
Have now read the actual ITC Order of 06/07/07 (6 pgs).
As the Order's language is consistent with the earlier-cited PC Mag report, the Sammy i760 and HTC x6800 should indeed be grandfathered...for now.
Here's the key portion of the provision:
...exempted from this Order are handheld wireless communications devices that were being imported into the United States for sale to the general public on or before the date of this Order.
The only reasonable interpretation of this language is that the exempted devices need not have been released, only imported for eventual sale.
But.
While these critical new EvDO models should survive, a 'hint of mint' is apparent. For instance, no model variants are permitted, such as non-cam i760s or x6800s...
The exempted models must be identfiable by specific and verifiable model numbers, denoting model-specific product specifications, features and functions.
What about permissibility of firmware mods, you ask? Hmmm, a good question left unanswered. (And shows how little the ITC knows about tech, let alone the line between hardware and software...)
Two other points of interest:
1. Bonding: Not Enough
We had wondered about bonding (bond-posting by QCOM and/or handset-makers) as an alternative to a draconian importation ban. "Necessary but insufficient," says the ITC.
In addition to an outright ban on new-model imports, the ITC is requiring that a bond be posted for each exempted device allowed to be sold. The amount of the bond is set at 5 percent of each device's declared value (presumably, VZW's wholesale cost, or thereabouts). If paid by Sammy or HTC, such a bond is essentially the vendor's entire net profit on each unit. Thus, the device folks will be all over QCOM for having hatched this catfight.
Is "power-saving" IP worth 5 percent of the wholesale value of the radio? And what's QCOM even charging mfgrs for this disgraced silicon? You decide.
2. 60-day Window: Trouble Ahead?
The exemption and bonding provision is specified as good for a period of up to 60 days (the "Presidential Review period") from the date of the Order. If not vetoed by the White House (unlikely), stayed pending appeal, or settled during this period, the ITC Order becomes permanent. As written, this implies that the exemption could disappear in 60 days and...we're back to square one. (Read the Order; it's linked below.)
Thus, some sort of timely resolution is essential in this case. If not, the new ringtone could be..."Mobile Revolt."
--BAM
P.S.
As many know, aircards (computer data cards) are altogether exempted from the ban. ("Power-saving" is presumably less critical in laptop applications, so these products lack "bite.")
Any infringing device designated for use by the US government is wholly exempted. (No surprise here...)
I was just googled the dimensions of this phone and a page came up saying that they were selling the Samsung SCH-i760 phone. I don't know what the deal is with this but here is the link:
I was just googled the dimensions of this phone and a page came up saying that they were selling the Samsung sch-i760 phone. I don't know what the deal is with this but here is the link:
This is a total scam! Anything requesting a Wester Union Money Transfer is total fraud. I just might think about submitting this to the FBI webpage for examination.
Got the page to load, must have been slowed up by all you other folks. The best laugh is the price for an i700! $455.00!!! That is even more than they are asking for the i760!
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Just ask dominick7. He's probably hatching a scheme right now to import one and somehow get it to work in the us
Haha I guess I have some sort of reputation..but do know, my momma told me that the suka MCs call me Sire She knows for sure because she asked them directly. Lol. Anyways, the company I have been communicating with has said they have been selling over seas for a while now, and were expecting them on May 17th, but like their Nokia phones as usual, these are being delayed, in this case, for no known reason. They said that they don't trust them overseas as they just plainly lie to them as to the reason why their phone get delayed, but when they don't lie it's usually the case that they're waiting for a holiday or some sort of plan they have sprung nearer to last minute in order to be able to get people's attention to buy their devices. They said Nokia do this a lot with their phones and it gets on their nerves and their customers nerves who have pre ordered them. They said they have over 100 SGH-i760s on preorder and its delay has nothing to do with the Qualcom (sp) ban..but I have yet to talk to their tech. These guys have a physical address, are registered with the Better Business Bureau, and you can pay by Paypal.
If need be I have friends in Chicago who can verify if this is a legit company..but from all appearances everything seems to be fine..though I wish their prices were significantly lower.
That's really convincing.
I guess I have some sort of reputation..but do know, my momma told me that the suka MCs call me Sire
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