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Old 06-08-2007, 11:27 AM
     
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This will be interesting to say the least. I was really surprised at how they blew over the who blackberry suit with the federal government over ruling the injunction in order to protect their own users.

I think in the long run it will hurt us if we do not allow companies to protect their intellectual property. Why do I want to invest in R&D if a competitor is allowed to copy my work? This is a Qualcom problem and if they are guilty both Sammy and Verizzy should be protected. The question is wether or not they will be allowed to continue to provide devices with the questioned chipset during the interim. If I was broadcomm I would want them to because i would be looking at getting a kick from every phone that QC produced with my technology.

Also - I think it is safe to say that Verizon will not roll out a new phone if they cant keep the supply and demand balanced.
 
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Actually, it's "Pismo Beach and all the clams we can eat!"
You must have taken that wrong turn at Albah-kour-key.
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This one put me over the edge. Too good.
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Also - I think it is safe to say that Verizon will not roll out a new phone if they cant keep the supply and demand balanced.
This is the second time I've seen this statement and it makes no sense. Phones are either grandfathered or not. So if what I've read is correct, the i760 was most likely imported before the ban and therefore is grandfathered.

If a phone is grandfathered, there will be no limitation in future imports. This part is not conjecture, this is how the ruling was written.

This ruling is simply not going to affect the i760 or the 6800 from what I can tell.
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WAIT! We cannot get a Samsung with the current OS, when is WM7 coming out?
 
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Old 06-08-2007, 12:58 PM
     
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Hey, does this make my old i730 worth a lot more.
 
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Old 06-08-2007, 01:49 PM
     
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This is the second time I've seen this statement and it makes no sense. Phones are either grandfathered or not. So if what I've read is correct, the i760 was most likely imported before the ban and therefore is grandfathered.

If a phone is grandfathered, there will be no limitation in future imports. This part is not conjecture, this is how the ruling was written.

This ruling is simply not going to affect the i760 or the 6800 from what I can tell.
I would not trust CNETs article or any of their reporting. How the ban was intended, how it was written, and if/how it will be implemented are three entirely different things.

Gov. Ruling Bans Qualcomm Handsets - Gearlog

Verizon is quoted as saying

"It grandfathers models that were being imported for sale to the general public. We have to have been selling them on June 7th This mean that Phone's in the Verizon Labs are also being blocked."

As I said previously it will be interesting to see how this all plays out. The feds have set a precedence of over-ruling these tatics during the blackberry case. I am still optimistic that we will see the end of June begining of July release date.
 
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Old 06-08-2007, 01:56 PM
     
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just in case you dont see it...the above article links to the following which is also a good read.

Analysis: Phone Fight Hurts Millions of Consumers - News and Analysis by PC Magazine
 
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So, RWC, according to your quote the 760 would not be grandfathered in because the june 7th deadline has passed, unless of course VZW decided to sell five a day or something in order to usurp this issue. So there are two questions...what will be the requirements to be grandfathered into this and if a device is grandfathered in, is their stock limited to what is already here in the US? Should I go buy Palm stock?
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Old 06-08-2007, 02:42 PM
     
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Very interesting read. Too bad they can't get their collective crap together.
 
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Geckotek,

You said:
This ruling is simply not going to affect the i760 or the 6800 from what I can tell.

Your argument is persuasive. The i760 and x6800 would seem to be grandfathered under the ruling and thus, unaffected.

Still, even without a stay, settlement or White House intervention, there are other ways that future imports could be allowed to continue.

One is with the posting of a bond, underwritten by QCOM and/or handset vendors. The disputed patent claim has a finite value, so potential liabilty can be fixed on a per unit basis. An appropriate bond amount could be derived fairly easily.

Finally, while we acknowledge VZW's argument in this matter as correct, the hollow ring of sanctimony is deafening.

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