True, it's incremental, but after using it I believe you'll notice the difference. I just got a Rev A PCMCIA card.....it's a winner.
I could see using Rev A for a PC Card, but in the phone, the speed rendering pages is limited by the device, not the connection. I hardly notice a difference over WiFi and EVDO when in a good signal area. 90% of my connection is e-mail anyway, and I only tether when I absolutely have to, which is about 10 minutes a month.
Rev A is the next thing to help mobile connections, but for the incremental step it gives on the actual device, it's not needed "yet". I think as we use more and more mobile video and video communication this will change, and it's good that the providers are increasing their network ability to handle it, but I think we can wait until the next device to have Rev A included.
In the data agreement with Verizon, they don't allow any multimedia communication anyway, unless it's on their system, so even with the bump, we still "can't" use it anyway....
I personally am looking for a stable, slim, functional, long battery life device for my next phone. Let's shoot for that first before working about a 200 kbps bump in speed from 900 to 1100...
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I recently upgraded to Rev. A cards for our laptops. In normal use I can't say I've noticed a speed difference between the two. Even on wi-fi my i730 doesn't seem significantly faster that EVDO Rev. 0 (presumably due to bottlenecks) so unless a phone was significantly redesigned I doubt Rev. A will be a noticeable improvement in daily usage.
I recently upgraded to Rev. A cards for our laptops. In normal use I can't say I've noticed a speed difference between the two. Even on wi-fi my i730 doesn't seem significantly faster that EVDO Rev. 0 (presumably due to bottlenecks) so unless a phone was significantly redesigned I doubt Rev. A will be a noticeable improvement in daily usage.
The only problem is as far as I know they haven't rolled out rev A networks yet so you wont see a difference till then.
I think for the most part, the i760 and 6800 will be 2 differing groups of customers. I think people will either care about the dial-pad or won't. That's probably one of the biggest draws for me to the i760.
Your right! I hadn't been following it too close cause as I said 200kbps . I looked at that coverage map and it's not very acurate as I live in Oregon and know of at least 4 cities that have evdo that they don't list any.
Living Ghost why wouldn't people get the 6800? It's going to be rev a compatible with a upgrade. I understand that you might not trust sprint or VZW but the people I do trust is HTC and they have done well in the past.
Guys, don't forget that Rev. A not only increases the uplink multiple times over that of Rev. 0, but it also reduces the latency by a significant factor (don't have all the numbers in front of me right now, will dig them up later).
This means that all lag-sensitive apps that also require close-to-symmetrical data rates such as VoIP (which I'm eager to use on a WinMo phone to showcase my company's VoIP products) and video conferencing will greatly benefit from Rev. A networks.
Personally, I tend to keep a $500+ device for at least a couple of years to amortize initial costs, so I would definitely want my next phone to feature Rev. A (or HSUPA ) in order to take advantage of the latest communication s/w that will come out in the next couple years.
I recently heard from a friend that the expected date for this phone is 6/15. Not sure where they got the info from or if this is credible.
Does anyone really see this being pushed into July?
I honestly wouldn't be suprised if we don't see it till August. They like to drag this crap out too long as it is.
Apple finally has a date of June 29th. The original rumor was the 14th, so if apple is 2 weeks off, that could push everyone else 2 more weeks or more out. Since everyone seems to be adjusting their marketing around Apple. Or at least percieved to be.
They need to at least announce the new phones before the iPhone comes out. The more I think about it the more I think waiting is foolish. If I were considering switching to at&t for the iPhone, the first thing I would do is check out Verizon's page to see what phones they are offering.
Unfortunately their current choices are pretty pitiful. If Verizon can't hold out at least the promise of future cool phones, it's only going to make people more likely to switch.
I got some inside informaiton from a high up manger that they have to push the relase back becuse they found out the dangerous was going to stay with Samsung and get the i760. They are afraid that they wont have enough devices to cover his appeteite.....lol
I've been lurking around the forums here for a bit, picking up some pretty cool facts every since my wife got the i730.
I find it intresting that the original release for the iPhone was set for Jun 14th and was then set back two weeks. I know that apple has a Keynote scheduled for June 15th to talk about who knows what...looks like alot of things about leopard with hopefully a new technology update. (read: new macbook release)
If in fact VZN is waiting to release the i760 to compete with the iPhone, then that's one of the worst buisness moves I've seen them do in recent history....okay, maybe not THE WORST, but a bad one.
If the i760 is most of what it's cracked up to be, and really it seems to be to be a slimmer, better layed out version on the i730, then delaying the release to coincide with one of the most marketed phones, highly anticipated phones in the US wouldn't be a good move IMO.
I have a feeling that onusigep is right, they probably will delay it til August if that's the case. Seems like it would be smarted to establish a base of fans before the iPhone comes out, and hopefully switch over a few of those treo ppl.
One last thing..and this is to Dangerous. How do you like your JawBone BT. Is it as good at noise cancellation as their website claims it to be? You can PM me if you'd like.
to clear my name...I was not saying that the 760 is being pushed back to compensate for iPhone frenzy....I was commenting on someone elses opinion of this happening...I thought it funny how he equated VZW to being afraid. To be fair as well, I have not ruled out the option...not because the iPhone and the 760 are side by side devices...but because frenzy is frenzy. Even in the adult world, status and trendiness are held in high esteem, and people will pay for them. I dont think that VZW people literally fear the device, but might be thinking that releasing the 760 after the iPhone, if in fact it was pushed back for this reason, would be the best profit move. I am not saying I agree with this thinking if they are having it. My comments were taken quite out of context.
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Personally, there is a good chance that the longer they keep it back, the more 'bugs' they get to fix.
All of these products get delivered with bugs, either in hardware or software. As complex as they are, software bugs are a given. It is less a matter of if there are any, but more a matter of how many. If they keep in a few more weeks and we see fewer bugs, we are really better of.
Personally, there is a good chance that the longer they keep it back, the more 'bugs' they get to fix.
All of these products get delivered with bugs, either in hardware or software. As complex as they are, software bugs are a given. It is less a matter of if there are any, but more a matter of how many. If they keep in a few more weeks and we see fewer bugs, we are really better of.
That is actually not the case. With the i730, they had both WM2003 versions out before the release (some people came here after it was released and they said they had it earlier, and showed proof), and the firmware was the same on their early version as the released version.
WM5 was released to some select FUT (Friendly User Testing) early, and they had the same version that we got, even with all the issues.
It takes a LONG time to test a firmware, and then even longer to roll it out to all the devices whether they are in boxes in the warehouse, or in our possession.
If they are planning a release between now and July, Verizon already has them in their warehouses, or they are made, and loaded with the most recent firmware, ready to ship, we are just waiting for the release...
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. I looked at that coverage map and it's not very acurate as I live in Oregon and know of at least 4 cities that have evdo that they don't list any.
) in order to take advantage of the latest communication s/w that will come out in the next couple years.
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