I went to my Local Desert Ridge Vzw store on Sat. and they had the I830 on the shelf, i thought that was odd.

Yawn,

Just curious. Not sure what you keep referring to with the inability to stream to your i730. I have the unlimited plan and stream to my i730 all the time. Check out Welcome to VDC - Virtual Digital Cable | Television Everywhere. There are a few free channels there, and with time could give you more sites to look at, but the point is streaming is possible...

Squid

Sorry, I forgot to include the reason that I originally was going to post. A friend of mine just did the 2 fer deal with the i730. I actually looked at doing something like it for myself, but decided not to. Or I guess Verizon decided for me. They are showing sold out again on the website. Maybe that is good news...

And, I agree brassMONKEY. $399 would be a great price point, but I think they will be higher. Wasn't the original i730 price like $699? I could convince my wife about the upgrade much easier if it was released for $399!

Squid

It's not that we can't. VZW says we're not allowed to and they may terminate your data plan if you do. On the page right before this one MR posted the data usage terms o service. Which to paraphrase says that even though we say it's unlimited that means 5gb a month and anything over that we assume your doing prohibited things such as streaming audio or video. It's another one VZW little F yous to their customers. If I was ever in a dark room with the CEO of VZW.........

I don't think yawn was saying you can't do it, but it's considered to be against the data policy that you sign/agree to when signing up. Just like you're also not supposed to tether the device to a laptop and play unreal tournament or something on it.

He's pointing out the annoyance of the fact that VZW has phones made to stream, but if you try to do it through other (read Free) channels then they can apparently take away access or whatever they do when you violate the policy.

As long as you stay under 5GB per month, it's not an issue. You can do whatever you want.

Now if Verizon canceled my data package because I went over 5GB per month, the would have a fight on their hands. There was no mention of the 5GB per month limit when I signed up, they have sent me no notice of change, they have not contacted me because of it. I signed on for unlimited, and I will use unlimited. I am sure if I did get canceled (which I don't even use 2 GB per month), I could get it reinstated, but would then be notified of the change. But this could also be a reason to get your account terminated without having to pay the fee, since they changed the terms of service on you.

The whole deal is just waiting for a lawsuit or a major complaint, especially since they haven't notified their customers of the change. This is a hot topic, and something that gets brought up numerous times per week.

Just stay under 5GB per month, and everything should be fine and you shouldn't have any issues with cancellation of service...

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5gb a month on these devices is a lot of data. Sure if your torrenting that goes fast but thats not what we are talking about here. Streaming slingbox / music or free tv isn't going to eat up that much bandwidth unless you are doing it a huge amount every month.

Correct. I don't sling much any more, more in the fall with Football and Basketball, but even then, at 3-5 hours each week, I was under 5GB. It's hard to hit that limit, and next to impossible if you are within their guidelines, which is why I can see them making the limit, but it was just a few who abused it and used it for everything they did online that ruined it for the rest of us.

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Why is it the first thing we all think of when it comes to pricing, is "can I sell my wife on this price!?" haha -I'm right there with ya! ...With all the competition coming out around the same time, I can't see a "less desirable" non-mainstream PDA being more than $399 or $499. -Or maybe, I just can't see selling my wife that I really "need" a seven hundred dollar phone!!?

Seems that the majority of the rumors about the phone are over, and this thread has become the support group for those waiting till it's finally released. Everyone just hanging on for that next report from "Ethan" fix.

So I thought I'd start a new rumor...

"The Samsung i760 has been tested to ensure that it does not cause cancer. In fact our studies have shown that the device actually cures cancer. The bad news for the US market is that VZW will be blocking the feature in preparation for their own service VKemo coming out in mid-late 2009. No price announcements have been made in regards to this service."