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Old 05-05-2007, 11:11 PM
     
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Hey guys,

I can't wait to get this phone, but unfortunately, I (and many of you, I'm sure) don't have time to read through all 54 pages of this thread (not to mention other threads on other forums). So, I created www.i760wiki.com. I realize this could be confused with the other i760 (SGH I believe), but I didn't want to be bothered with typing schi760wiki . Right now it is pretty bare. I just set it up tonight, and my purpose in setting it up is to have a central database of all i760 info. So for now it would be a perfect reference to store all of the current pre-release info we have. Once the i760 is released we can use it as a database for all the current information/hacks for the phone. I currently host a wiki for the PN-820 (www.pn820wiki.com) because I have that phone and we desperately needed a central place for all info (rather than saying "go read page 52 of some thread"). I can't wait till the i760 is released so I can switch from the pn820. Anyways, I think that is enough background info

I'm hoping some people will be able help load the wiki with the most recent info. I will add what I can, but I have been out of the i760 info loop since I picked up a pn820. The only thing on the site are pictures at the moment. I'm not asking everyone to do the work, but this is a community and I'm hoping we can all pitch in
I am not saying this is a bad idea, but the stickys here have all the information we know so far (no need to read all the posts here). When I got my i730 about two months after its release, I found everything I needed in the FAQ's mrailing worked so hard on. If you havent yet, you should check out the i730 section here and see. I still use it and I have no doubt that when this device is released, if mrailing is using it, this forum will be just as good as the 730 forum.
 
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I don't think they hear that revolt way up in that "Ivory Tower" in lower Manhattan. The only thing they hear are subscribers leaving in droves (and I don't see that happening.)

Now if some politician somewhere gets annoyed enough by it to push through some improved "open device" laws, then we might have a chance at change. I wonder if there are grounds for a class-action suit based on anti-competetive practices?
Unlikely. They have really good lobbyists. Money talks. Sucks I know.

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Ok, more promising news,

On the vzw web site, if you scroll over the Phones and Accessories tab then over the PDA and Smartphone tab, it shows the little picture of a Q, HTC 6700, and the i730. Well, over on the test site, testman.verizonwireless.com, that picture has been changed to a Q, 700wx, and PN-820. It's just more (minor but still) good news that they are moving out the old and bringing in the new.

And has anybody noticed on the test site that there is a rather nice buy one Samsung u740 get one u740 free sale going on for the next 8 days? I know it could be nothing at all, but why would verizon be trying to get rid of their relatively new qwerty texting phone only months after release? That is, unless there is something better coming out when the sale ends on the 15th of May. Just a thought.

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I am not saying this is a bad idea, but the stickys here have all the information we know so far (no need to read all the posts here). When I got my i730 about two months after its release, I found everything I needed in the FAQ's mrailing worked so hard on. If you havent yet, you should check out the i730 section here and see. I still use it and I have no doubt that when this device is released, if mrailing is using it, this forum will be just as good as the 730 forum.
I will definitely go check out the 730 forum. I guess my goal with the wiki is to have something like the FAQ threads without MRailing having to do all of the work. It wouldn't be that the wiki would take away from the forum, but it would complement the forum. So there could be a sticky linking to the wiki, instead of having one long FAQ thread. And instead of MRailing having to do all of the edits, it would be a community effort. What do you guys think? I already have a PM in to mrailing to get his take on it. If he doesn't like the idea, I'll abandon the project. I am just trying to be helpful

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Geckotek, That's exactly what I meant. We all know that politicians don’t get involved in issues unless it heightens their political career.

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I don't think they hear that revolt way up in that "Ivory Tower" in lower Manhattan. The only thing they hear are subscribers leaving in droves (and I don't see that happening.)

Now if some politician somewhere gets annoyed enough by it to push through some improved "open device" laws, then we might have a chance at change. I wonder if there are grounds for a class-action suit based on anti-competetive practices?
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Hey guys,

I can't wait to get this phone, but unfortunately, I (and many of you, I'm sure) don't have time to read through all 54 pages of this thread (not to mention other threads on other forums). So, I created www.i760wiki.com. I realize this could be confused with the other i760 (SGH I believe), but I didn't want to be bothered with typing schi760wiki . Right now it is pretty bare. I just set it up tonight, and my purpose in setting it up is to have a central database of all i760 info. So for now it would be a perfect reference to store all of the current pre-release info we have. Once the i760 is released we can use it as a database for all the current information/hacks for the phone. I currently host a wiki for the PN-820 (www.pn820wiki.com) because I have that phone and we desperately needed a central place for all info (rather than saying "go read page 52 of some thread"). I can't wait till the i760 is released so I can switch from the pn820. Anyways, I think that is enough background info

I'm hoping some people will be able help load the wiki with the most recent info. I will add what I can, but I have been out of the i760 info loop since I picked up a pn820. The only thing on the site are pictures at the moment. I'm not asking everyone to do the work, but this is a community and I'm hoping we can all pitch in
Wow, so promoting another site on this site. Somehow i think that is a conflict of interest. Yes, i didn't say anything when you created the pn820 wiki site. I have actually used it once or twice. but, That's because no-one has / owns the PN820 and any suggestions are beter then none as there is not much activitity in the PDAPhoneHome forum for that phone. The I760 i think is a much different story.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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I beleive that Convergent is/was working on a Wiki type of portal.
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Old 05-06-2007, 12:54 PM
     
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Promoting sites outside of PDAPhoneHome.com and pulling people away from a forum is in violation of the house rules. I get what you are trying to do with the Wiki, and Convergent (the site owner) has been working on new ideas for the FAQ, including a PDAPhoneHome wiki of our own, which we have been testing.

Even though you don't want to be competing with us, it would be, and pulling the information from our site, especially when the users here create the information. I will respond to you soon via PM, but the moderators and site admins are currently discussing this.

So give us a bit to discuss and we will chat with you about it...
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Old 05-06-2007, 01:51 PM
     
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Wow, so promoting another site on this site. Somehow i think that is a conflict of interest. Yes, i didn't say anything when you created the pn820 wiki site. I have actually used it once or twice. but, That's because no-one has / owns the PN820 and any suggestions are beter then none as there is not much activitity in the PDAPHONEHOME forum for that phone. The I760 i think is a much different story.

Just my 2 cents.
I think it's quite obvious you are biased against anything I say, just because I said you were a little rude in another post. Hold grudges much?

Like I said already, I have no intention of taking traffic away from this site. I was only trying to help. Which is more than the majority of people do on most forums, including this one I would assume. People are leeches, and I figured for once I could give back. If MRailing wants me to give up on it, then I will.

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Actually Eleazar, i forgot about your "comment" saying i was rude, Thank you for reminding me.

I made a comment stating that advertizing another webstie is not right, its in the rules and was stated 2 posts before your last one here, and you still think i'm biased. Think again.
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I decided to cut the part saying that you were a LAZY POS for not reading the entire thread (before advertizing your site), and not having read the the rules, as I thought i was being too harsh.

Sorry if you think i'm holding a Grudge.
 
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Ok everyone, lets keep things on topic. As Mrailing said there is discussion among the mods and admins about how to best help this site. Lets let the discussion go on there and keep this thread on topic.

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Complaining about a Wiki link to a phone which is on topic? I guess I'm missing the issue.

If things get that uptight here I certainly won't be around any longer.
 
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Complaining about a Wiki link to a phone which is on topic? I guess I'm missing the issue.

If things get that uptight here I certainly won't be around any longer.
I was thinking along the same lines. Especially when I explicitly stated that I wasn't trying to take away from the site. And that it's up to the mods, I wasn't trying to do anything behind everybody's backs. Thanks for keeping me sane lol Oh and I'm still waiting to hear from MRailing (just as an update to everyone, although I'm sure he'll post his decision here as well).

And dangerous the pn820 wiki was requested by the users. I was just helping out. I didn't see you jumping on paying for a domain name and hosting, but come to think of it you were quick to criticize anything you didn't like.

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Well, you are both missing the reasoning behind it.

This site is supported by advertising. I don't know if they make a lot of money or just enough to pay for the hosting, but there it is.

The wiki site is also supported by advertising.

If users leave here and click a few pages on the wiki site instead of here, that is lost income potential.

Pretty simple.

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Sorry MR.

First, i understand how the site works with money. I joined this forum a couple years ago (back when Eleazar was in diapers) because it was (and still is) very Useful and had (and still has) a lot of knowledgeable people here. for the little boy Eleazar trying to make me look like the bad here, well, I will be getting an I760 the day it's released. I will be willing to bet that eleazar will only be wishing he could afford one. hey, He started with a PN820, maybe oneday he will graduate to a PDAphone. but right now he doesn't even have a Sammy. Maybe eleazar should buy the $99 special on the I730, naa.. Just Hi-Jack a Forum, that's what he should [try and] do.

I dont' have time to look at this Website (which i monitor about 7 threads) and a dozen other "WIKI" sites at the same time. Keep it all in one Place. Right Here, Right Now.
So, Eleazar, if you were a member for a few years. and you ASKED if you could HI-Jack before just DOING so, maybe i would have a different take on the subject.

and by the way, If you want the $8 for the website, let me know, i will cash in a days worth of empty beer cans and send you the $$.
 
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Come on guys there's no reason to start taking shots at people. I don't think eleazar was trying to "hi-jack" anything. He had an idea and wanted to get our take and talk to MR about it. Is there anything wrong with having an idea??? He said up front what he was thinking and then started checking with people. What's the matter with that??? I personally think MR and the rest of us do fine without a wiki but I think it's a good resource to have. Granted with the people we have in i730 forum (and i'll guess the i760) we don't need any other resources but this group of people and MR are very very rare. How would this guy know how good these people are? He had an idea. He got peoples take on it. Again I ask what is wrong with that? And dangerous I wont be able to afford one. I don't have very much extra money. I'm also 23 SO WHAT??? Dangerous I like you man. You have good input and seem to be a cool guy. There's no reason to rag on eleanzer. I know he started it but come on your one of the "old dogs" here.

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the little boy Eleazar
eleazar will only be wishing he could afford one.

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trying to make me look like the bad here,
Youre doing a pretty good job yourself.

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SERIOUSLY CAN WE QUIT TAKING SHOTS AT EACH OTHER!!!??? Geckotek did you read my post and decide; No, fightings more fun let me see if i can keep this going??? I will start posting the DAMN Barney song if you guys don't get along.
 
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