As mentioned earlier in the thread, Verizon would VERY much like to have the i760 to be the first WM6 device on the market, but won't release it until it's ready...
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Reflecting mrailing's suggestion that we incorporate into the body of the FCC complaint letter at least one direct Samsung promo reference to the i760, I have woven in Samsung's January "Insight" E-Newsletter and completed v6 of the template. A couple of other tweaks have been added as well.
It really isn't necessary to include more than one manufacturer citation in the body of the letter--the violations are unmistakable and abundant. The links now included in the template seem to be the most useful ones. Would have wanted to use the PopMech piece (a "brand-name" consumer news source), but their on-camera reporter really bungled the assignment.
As a result of this change, only five reference links are now needed.
Looking good KBAM. I fixed one of the links for the FCC, it was truncated with the ... in the middle. I will be typing up instructions soon and creating the poll thread. Easter messed up the weekend and I am spending time with family.
Thanks for taking the time to work on this, and I think this is the best version yet...
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Please forgive me if this question already has been asked (I did search but didn't come up with any results): Why hasn't Samsung upgraded the interface on the i760 to USB 2? According the spec sheet, the i730 will only use USB 1.1, which is the same as the i730. Seems to me that USB 2 has been out so long that almost everything other than, perhaps, keyboards and mice are now USB2. So, I ask again, why use a slower, older standard on the i760? Any ideas?
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A good point was brought up and glossed over a few times. Isn't this the "Samsung i760 - Release/Rumor Thread"? If you want to sign a petition for the FCC, start a new thread. Sorry Mrailing, I probably should be interested but right now all I care about is when the phone is coming out and if it's worth picking one up. Not a knock on you or your cause, because you do FANTASTIC work. It just deserves it's own thread.
A good point was brought up and glossed over a few times. Isn't this the "Samsung i760 - Release/Rumor Thread"? If you want to sign a petition for the FCC, start a new thread. Sorry Mrailing, I probably should be interested but right now all I care about is when the phone is coming out and if it's worth picking one up. Not a knock on you or your cause, because you do FANTASTIC work. It just deserves it's own thread.
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Actually the FCC thing is still right up on Rumor/Release, as part of doing this is working on getting pictures of the internals of the phone, to look at the EVDO chip and see if it is in fact an EVDO Rev. A chip, that could possibly bring EVDO Rev. A in a future release, as well as looking at all the rest of the chips.
Another nice thing will be the manual if we are successful, which will give us greater insight to any changes that Verizon has done, or that Samsung has made in the interface.
So the FCC thing goes right along with the Rumor and Release aspect, and gives us more information about the potential limitations of the i760, and any future advantages that this device may have.
We also have an FCC thread started, in the stickies, but asking that "banter" about it be here and in one thread, so people can follow along, and plus we will need help from other individuals here to get the FCC to release the information we seek, and that's why the general banter is staying here, and trying to keep just "useful" data in the FCC thread, and we are making "announcements" about it here to keep people up to date.
If you are complaining about receiving e-mails because of posts to this thread, then as suggested for ANY Release/Rumor thread, only request daily updates, or just check the thread often. Release/Rumor threads are HIGH volume threads with lots of posts/views. The i730 Release/Rumor thread had 2,675 replies and almost 400,000 views. So if you subscribed on day one, you would have received 2675 e-mails with updates.
As I have always said, this is why I don't like release and rumor threads, but all information is speculative at this point until actual release, and we are trying to keep the information flowing in one direction without creating numerous discussions on the same topic.
It still is "possible" that Verizon could scrap the i760 completely and never release it as they did with the Samsung i645 smartphone, but that is unlikely, since Samsung has shown it and "marketed" it, but it could be dropped and picked up by another carrier instead.
But this is the reason all of the discussions on the i760 are contained pretty much here, as it all related to giving us more information on the device, and making the rumors more accurate.
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Please forgive me if this question already has been asked (I did search but didn't come up with any results): Why hasn't Samsung upgraded the interface on the i760 to USB 2? According the spec sheet, the i730 will only use USB 1.1, which is the same as the i730. Seems to me that USB 2 has been out so long that almost everything other than, perhaps, keyboards and mice are now USB2. So, I ask again, why use a slower, older standard on the i760? Any ideas?
I think KBAM misread your post, as he gave you WONDERFUL information on the Bluetooth specs, but not on the USB specs.
Really there is no reason they haven't made a move to USB2, except for the fact they don't think it's necessary (In my opinion). It would be nice having the speed of the USB to transfer files faster to the device, but I think the real limitation is the flash memory read/write speeds, and the fact that having a USB2 interface will increase the cost of the device, but not really have any benefits in terms of speed in syncing or moving data.
So they include on USB1.1 as the interface since it's the same chip they have always used, and the same instructions sets they are used to using, and until a device will utilize the data transfer speed, then they have no reason to bump the speed.
At least this is my opinion on this. I haven't seen any data about this, but this is the only reason that I would think they wouldn't include a USB2 interface on any of these devices....
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Well, it appears that a few devices have picked up USB 2.0, but none apparently for CDMA (including the HTC XV6800).
Here are a few for GSM. Notable is that USB 2.0 seems to be migrating down the food chain, albeit slowly, to units with "average" feature sets. Among them is MOT's Q q9. This suggests that 2.0 will soon become mainstream.
I think KBAM misread your post, as he gave you WONDERFUL information on the Bluetooth specs, but not on the USB specs.
Really there is no reason they haven't made a move to USB2, except for the fact they don't think it's necessary (In my opinion). It would be nice having the speed of the USB to transfer files faster to the device, but I think the real limitation is the flash memory read/write speeds, and the fact that having a USB2 interface will increase the cost of the device, but not really have any benefits in terms of speed in syncing or moving data.
So they include on USB1.1 as the interface since it's the same chip they have always used, and the same instructions sets they are used to using, and until a device will utilize the data transfer speed, then they have no reason to bump the speed.
At least this is my opinion on this. I haven't seen any data about this, but this is the only reason that I would think they wouldn't include a USB2 interface on any of these devices....
Yeah, I saw BAM's reply earlier but didn't have a chance to respond myself. I figured he must have been trying to multi-task when he responded to me earlier post.
Michael, what you suggest about the speed of flash memory vs. USB speeds makes a lot of sense. I'd be curious if anyone knows for certain which is the weakest link in the chain. If it's the flash memory, then sticking with USB 1.1 makes perfect sense, especially because I suspect USB 1.1 chips are still a little less expensive then USB 2 chips. If, on the other hand, flash memory (e.g., microSD cards and the internal memory of the i760) are faster than USB 1.1 speeds, I'll be very disappointed that Samsung stuck with USB 1.1 instead of going to USB 2.
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Well, it appears that a few devices have picked up USB 2.0, but none apparently for CDMA (including the HTC XV6800).
Here are a few for GSM. Notable is that USB 2.0 seems to be migrating down the food chain, albeit slowly, to units with "average" feature sets. Among them is MOT's Q q9. This suggests that 2.0 will soon become mainstream.
Thanks for the info, BAM. As always, your answer is very thorough. Wonder if this all means that we'll eventually get USB 2 by the year 2010.
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