Not that it's worth much...as not much is at this point, sadly routine....and FWIW, I'm a Commercial RE broker in the area and have been HOUNDING my rep since a 'few' units leaked out...anyways, here is our correspondence (hillarious only because, as a result of 'knowing' from this forum that the device was released though he declines to acknowledge it, and that he is a complete VZW tool despite the fact that he represents he is not)...forgive the rant, but I'm at my wit's end (he had the nerve TODAY to ask me to check out the freakin 'countdown page', like that woud pacify me...anyways, here is the correspondence:
Hello Eric,
Hope your weekend was nice.
Truly hate to be a pain in your ass...but...any truth that tomorrow, 9/24 is the release date for this device? My i-730 is on it's last leg and I need a replacement...please refer to my email below regarding '3rd party sources' on the early release and delivery of this device, and how I'd like to accomplish this, should you not be able to help me on my main line.
I'm certain that I speak for many for all you've done for the Atlanta Commercial Board, and will champion your cause once you come through...however, I'm willing to bite the bullet and go with another carrier if need be...repercussions to either side not-withstanding.
Best regards,
Jack
Ps: I'm a bit dismayed I didn't hear from you after my 9/17 email inquiring about this.
(Previousy)
Hi Eric,
No doubt you are aware that Verizon allowed a few Samsung i760's to slip thru the cracks last Thursday and Friday and they were delivered to some of the 'early adopters', prior to their shutting down VZW's system and issuing a company wide email-alert preventing further shipments. http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsu...hread-292.html
No hard feelings, I understand your position as 'gatekeeper'...however, please alert me on or before the 24th of Sept or earlier once they are officially released. I'd like to replace ***.***.**** with one of these units, if it's my only option for a NE2...and I'll deal with forwarding the number to my main line if needed.
Alternatively, if you could help me with the $100 data discount, $50 MIR discount, $100 ADD discount and/or an early upgrade discount for ***.***.**** I'd appreciate it and will champion your good will amongst those in my company as well as throughout the ACBR family.
Best regards,
Jack
And of course, lest I forget, he responds today with this BS...
The i760 was to release on Friday 10/5, but Samsung is having issues supplying product to VZW. The numbers VZW has is very limited only a couple thousand, and they don't want to release the phone only to tell people it is backordered...This delay is not VZW's fault. It is Samsung and them not being able to deliver enough product to meet the potential demand...There are no technical issues with the i760. It is simply a Samsung supply problem. I believe someone else also mentioned that a week ago. My source has confirmed that.
I haven't posted in this thread in ages since I've been extremely happy with my Mogul, but I can't ignore the moronic stance VZW is taking if this story is true. They're seriously going to delay a product because they're not sure they can meet potential demand? Why would that remotely concern them? They've never shown an inkling of care towards the consumer in getting the devices that they want, and I can't imagine that they'd start now. If they had any number of units ready to go, they'd sell them now and fill any numbers that they could as Samsung manufactures them.
And do you really think that Samsung is at fault in all this? Or could it possibly be that Verizon sat on this phone for so long that Samsung got a little apprehensive about manufacturing huge numbers of them? Samsung applied for FCC approval months and months ago. I doubt they did this and then screwed around on producing retail units.
I can only imagine if other companies worked with such inane strategies: All those Tickle-Me Elmo's from a few years ago would be delayed until after Christmas because demand just wouldn't be met. Nintendo would halt sales of the Wii for a few months until production caught up with demand for the product. The PS3 would have had an even later launch so that retailers would be fully saturated with consoles.
Did any of these things happen? No. Because it'd be an idiotic business move, and even with how questionably VZW operates in some aspects, this would be too much.
So Dangerous, you've finally decided to stop dropping hints and just fess up to having the phone? Did you B2B rep find a way to slip it though the system?
I'm not at all surprized the device is not out yet. If you check the fcc site for a3lschi760 (fccid of the phone) you will notice despite samsung submitting the user manual for the phone; it was just approved and released for public viewing. You can download the blurry internal photos, photos of the radiation and rf testing. The device is ready to go, but with this evidence it appears samsung and the fcc may be at fault.
Regardless, I do think it will be released this month.
FWIW, my B2B called this afternoon and stated "it had cleared testing and was slated for arrival before the end of this month at the latest, possibly sooner".
...particularly the somewhat overwrought letters threatening loss of patronage, and just laughing.
Here's why.
Last year, I saddled up a recumbent trike and pedaled solo around the country. Coast to coast, east to west, over four months. 2,000 miles on the trike, the rest by other means. I had a dinky LG phone for voice (I didn't bring the i700 because it lacked analog), and an EVDO card in my laptop for data. I used VZW for both.
I can count the days when I had no signal on the fingers of one hand. In fact, except for central and western Kentucky, I had voice *and* data coverage pretty much the whole way. I was able to make phone calls from mountaintops, and post to my website from the middle of redwood groves and on isolated beaches. Admittedly: I had an external antenna rig and a 3w booster, which helped. But the simple fact of the matter is that there is no other company in the country that can provide the kind of consistent, coast-to-coast signal that Verizon can.
Maybe that makes them smug. Whatever. To me, it doesn't matter whether they get me exactly the toy I want exactly when I want it. I'll use my i700 until my NE2 comes up at the end of January, and then I'll give the i760 a look. Or, I'll wait, if I have to.
Because, frankly? It is about the network. Beyond that, VZW's a big dumb bureaucracy that does big dumb bureaucratic things.
My Corporate contact called me today. Same one that shared the internal e-mail regarding all of the release dates for pda phonescoming up. The i760 was to release on Friday 10/5, but Samsung is having issues supplying product to VZW. The numbers VZW has is very limited only a couple thousand, and they don't want to release the phone only to tell people it is backordered. They are hopiing Samsung can get the product in time to release the week of 10/22. The demo i760's for the B2B customers should be available for testing on 10/12. This delay is not VZW's fault. It is Samsung and them not being able to deliver enough product to meet the potential demand. If the i760 releases the week of 10/22, the xv6800 is due the last week of October or first week of November. May be latter with this latest i760 delay. 5800 is also due in November. There are no technical issues with the i760. It is simply a Samsung supply problem. I believe someone else also mentioned that a week ago. My source has confirmed that.
Now this makes sense and is probably the only useful post in that last two days. Though another few weeks does suck.
I'm not at all surprized the device is not out yet. If you check the fcc site for a3lschi760 (fccid of the phone) you will notice despite samsung submitting the user manual for the phone; it was just approved and released for public viewing. You can download the blurry internal photos, photos of the radiation and rf testing. The device is ready to go, but with this evidence it appears samsung and the fcc may be at fault.
...But I don't think you understand.
The FCC blessed the i760 something like 6 months ago, and that info was released to the public at the time. But the FCC granted Samsung several additional months of secrecy (meaning that proprietary info and documents would not be released to the public) beyond when the certification was granted. Now that the additional secrecy has expired, the documents are available for viewing.
However, publishing the documents is not the same thing as certifying the phone. And publishing the documents has nothing to do with releasing the phone (certification does). So I don't see why you'd think that the FCC or Samsung has anything to do with the hold up.
It is simply a Samsung supply problem. I believe someone else also mentioned that a week ago. My source has confirmed that.
If we were talking about this 3 months ago, I might have believed it. But unless one assumes that VZW didn't actually commit to market the i760 until relatively recently, I don't see how or why Samsung would not have enough time to build inventory.
Hmm, it's looking official for an AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) release on Friday. Both Testman and the AT&T Wireless sites are down for maintenance. I'm still voting for the "race" or collusion. I'd really prefer the Samsung i760, but a cameraless Tilt may win out for my needs...just worried about the lesser network.
May I direct you to the topic of this thread, "Samsung i760 - Release/Rumor Thread." Know what that means? We talk about rumors about the release of the phone. If you want tips and tricks for a phone, go to one of the forums for a phone you have. That's where those are. We enjoy speculating and debating, and blowing off steam toward Verizon. That's why we're here. Sorry to be so blunt, but that's kind of a silly statement in this thread.
Bill
Anyway...
As I was saying...I never seen a major VZW campaign behind PDA/Smartphones. The only one that comes to mind was when Palm/WM5 came together for 700wx or whatever it's called.
Anyone in Chicago Land Area have any luck with dummies in stores?
and has one of the "Lucky 40" use PDAnet with it yet? via Bluetooth, Sync cable, etc.
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...particularly the somewhat overwrought letters threatening loss of patronage, and just laughing.
Here's why.
Last year, I saddled up a recumbent trike and pedaled solo around the country. Coast to coast, east to west, over four months. 2,000 miles on the trike, the rest by other means. I had a dinky LG phone for voice (I didn't bring the i700 because it lacked analog), and an EVDO card in my laptop for data. I used VZW for both.
I can count the days when I had no signal on the fingers of one hand. In fact, except for central and western Kentucky, I had voice *and* data coverage pretty much the whole way. I was able to make phone calls from mountaintops, and post to my website from the middle of redwood groves and on isolated beaches. Admittedly: I had an external antenna rig and a 3w booster, which helped. But the simple fact of the matter is that there is no other company in the country that can provide the kind of consistent, coast-to-coast signal that Verizon can.
Maybe that makes them smug. Whatever. To me, it doesn't matter whether they get me exactly the toy I want exactly when I want it. I'll use my i700 until my NE2 comes up at the end of January, and then I'll give the i760 a look. Or, I'll wait, if I have to.
Because, frankly? It is about the network. Beyond that, VZW's a big dumb bureaucracy that does big dumb bureaucratic things.
Just my .25 worth.
I hate to admit it, but that is why I keep them around also. It is first and foremost a phone. Their cellular service is simply the best in the US, but they suck on new toys. Price we pay.
John
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Why would the 3 new phones affect the i760 release?
If VZW thinks the new phone is an iPhone killer, one would think VZW thinks it is competition to the i760.
So, my thought was that in order to enhance sales of their iPhone killer, for which they make money, they would hold off on the i760 where they will make less money.
Sorry guys but it looks like tomorrow I will be leaving this forum. I wish you all the best of luck. P.S. I stopped by an VZW store to get the latest. My sales guy WANTED to show me more info (and possible the dummy phone) but his supv said NO (no to cust srvc that is). Well anyway, best of LUCK.
*** According to ATT, TOMORROW is the release AT&T- News Room
Here's somehting else:
The AT&T Tilt will be available for a promotional price as low as $299.99** beginning Oct. 5 at AT&T retail stores nationwide, online at Cell Phones and Cell Phone Plans from AT&T, formerly Cingular Wireless, at select national retailers and through AT&T's business-to-business sales organizations.
I'm not usually one to add to the chaos of a release thread but why not..My friend was at a Circuit City in Hampton Roads Virginia and was given both the 6800 and the i760 mock ups to play with. If Circuit City is starting to get pre-release gear and show it off maybe there is some hope. I am going up there tomorrow to see if they have any other information
Later
i played with the dummy at the Ciruit city in Westbury NY about a week ago and nothing yet on the release..... its like watching grass grow at this point
Anyway...
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