Revison A, crappy in phone camera, Crossbow, slower ARM processor and no WiFi notwithstanding, the more I see of this phone, the less I understand it's emergence.
SCH-i760 Dimensions: 60 x 110 x 20 millimetres
SCH-i730 Dimensions: 50 x 104 x 24 millimetres
What is gained here? I sure ain't form factor.
Maybe the Battery Life will be better so we don't have to have the Extended battery attached. that would change your dimensions above just a little.
We don't need to bring up the whole camera thing again.
Did someone use the "C" word??? Le'me get a picture of da bugga so we can know who to roast.
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Maybe the Battery Life will be better so we don't have to have the Extended battery attached. that would change your dimensions above just a little.
I guarantee any user can exhaust any cell phone battery in a few hours. So the problem becomes how many batteries of which configuration do you want to carry or do you want to be tethered to a power source?
Thus, base dimensions are what is relevant.
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Once again I find myself in the dubious position of defending a phone that I've never seen or touched, but I want to point out that comparing the sliding keyboard on the i760 to the ones on HTC made devices is a mistake. From reports of those that have played with it, it seems that it uses the same magnetic sliding mechanism that the i730 uses, rather than the crappy friction slider that HTC uses. This should make it possible to slide it open one handed.
We may not like it (myself included), but the fact is that landscape orientation is becoming the industry standard. Not only for sliding keyboard phones, but fixed keyboard smartphone editions such as the Q & Blackjack as well. If we are unable to adapt, pretty soon we'll start sounding like the guys that are still pining over the demise of the Newton.
I guarantee any user can exhaust any cell phone battery in a few hours. So the problem becomes how many batteries of which configuration do you want to carry or do you want to be tethered to a power source?
Thus, base dimensions are what is relevant.
I question the accuracy of those dimensions. I don't think Samsung or Verizon has officially announced them yet, but from the pictures, it looks significantly thinner than the i730, and the early reviews have commented on how thin and lightweight it is, some even comparing it to the razr. Those dimensions may be from the GSM model, which has two cameras and a different radio & form factor.
I question the accuracy of those dimensions. I don't think Samsung or Verizon has officially announced them yet, but from the pictures, it looks significantly thinner than the i730, and the early reviews have commented on how thin and lightweight it is, some even comparing it to the razr. Those dimensions may be from the GSM model, which has two cameras and a different radio & form factor.
I agree that I would question those dimensions. Go back a few pages and look at the post I did with the photos of it next to a Samsung Blackjack. The BlackJack is roughly the same size at the Q, and the i760 isn't much bigger. This was also an issue with the dimensions of the i730 when it first came out, we saw them all over the place. And also the i830, it had different dimensions than the i730 did, so take those with a grain of salt.
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Well we can verify or disprove the accuracy vis a vis the SCH-i730. In any case, the differences seem minimal, not a sinificant improvemnet like the SCH-i730 was over the SPH-i700 or like itwas to the Hitachi G1000 boogie baord.
Of course, one has to wonder if the website didn't obtain those dimensions from an actual phone, from where did the emanate?
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I cant wait for this device.
Number pad on the outside.
I bet there will be T9 functionality using the outside keys. I can see the characters on each number.........
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Well we can verify or disprove the accuracy vis a vis the SCH-i730. In any case, the differences seem minimal, not a sinificant improvemnet like the SCH-i730 was over the SPH-i700 or like itwas to the Hitachi G1000 boogie baord.
Of course, one has to wonder if the website didn't obtain those dimensions from an actual phone, from where did the emanate?
Even reputable sites get facts wrong on a rather staggeringly high basis. I've never even heard of this site before, although they look pretty legit, they're not exactly Engadget. Normally a site like this would get their specs straight off the manufactures web site (or from other sites that did), but since those haven't been made available, I'm not sure where they would've come from. I haven't seen them anywhere else, which is odd. If they don't source it, your guess is as good as mine. Like I said before, my guess is that they got their specs from the GSM version, but, as has been pointed out ad nauseum, this version is very different.
I agree it's not nearly the huge leap in technology the i730 was. But it has a camera, no bulky antenna, WM 6 (which is turning out to be a bigger upgrade than previously thought), almost certainly A2DP, permanently exposed number keys for improved phone functionality, and is smaller & lighter. That's enough for me to count it as a significant upgrade.
If it turns out to have Rev. A, that's a huge bonus also.
I agree it isn't a huge leap like i700 to i730 but i don't think we'll be seeing those kinds of leaps for a while. It looks like PDAs and Pocket PC have hit a little bit of a wall. Intel selling out didn't help.
Does anyone know if this new Processor is going to be any faster? I would think it will be slower but i remember hearing the samsung Processors running at the same megahurtz turned out better benchmarks than intel. Anyone confirm that they do or if this will be a faster Processor than we currently have. And last question anyone know if there's a reason the RAM hasn't been increased. It seems like all phones have the same amount of memory. I would feel this was a lot bigger of an upgrade if they doubled the RAM.
It does say the CPU is "400 MHz". Isn't that going in reverse?
Zucchero, the previous post says, "...but i remember hearing the samsung processors running at the same megahurtz turned out better benchmarks than intel." I've read this too.
... he said better benchmarks, not higher MHz. Better benchmarks means that it would run faster even though the MHz are lower. That is a good thing. Also, presumably, this would mean it's more energy efficient.
It does say the CPU is "400 MHz". Isn't that going in reverse?
MHz no longer matter, just like in your desktop PC. It all depends on how well the Processor performs, and since this is a Samsung Processor and no longer an Intel Processor, we will have to see how it performs.
From what I have read and have seen on other sites, it will perform as well as a 520 MHz Intel Processor, require less battery life, and be an overall better Processor.
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I agree it isn't a huge leap like i700 to i730 but i don't think we'll be seeing those kinds of leaps for a while. It looks like PDAs and Pocket PC have hit a little bit of a wall. Intel selling out didn't help.
Does anyone know if this new Processor is going to be any faster? I would think it will be slower but i remember hearing the samsung Processors running at the same megahurtz turned out better benchmarks than intel. Anyone confirm that they do or if this will be a faster Processor than we currently have. And last question anyone know if there's a reason the RAM hasn't been increased. It seems like all phones have the same amount of memory. I would feel this was a lot bigger of an upgrade if they doubled the RAM.
The next big leap should come in '08. The next gen xscale Processors are already in the pipeline, with speeds of 600+ - over 1 ghz. Graphics accelerators for Windows Mobile devices
have already been announced. Not to mention Photon - the next major rewrite of the Windows Mobile OS. 2008 should be a very good year.
Also, Samsung 400 mhz Processors do indeed turn in better benchmarks than 400 mhz Intel chips, but I doubt they could keep up with the 520 mhz Intel Processor in the I730. But 400 mhz is respectable, and if WM 6 is more efficient (a big if for Windows), the difference probably won't be noticeable.
And even though they said it was missing the OK and Windows button, they are on the side, peep the pics.
I can't believe they didn't get a shot of the other side of the phone, since that is where the mini/micro SD card slot is...
I agree, looks sexy, can't wait...
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