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Let's hope (for us Biz folks) that is comes out 2 weeks earlier for B2B.
He mentioned nothing about an early release for Biz side. I haven't seen them doing that recently.
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I would guess they will release similar to the Q9m, with online/telesales first, and stores 1 week later.

Just ordered a Q9 to see if it meets my needs; then I went to the local store and played with the demo i760. Hmmmm - how to tell my wife I want both???
 
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I would guess they will release similar to the Q9m, with online/telesales first, and stores 1 week later.

Just ordered a Q9 to see if it meets my needs; then I went to the local store and played with the demo i760. Hmmmm - how to tell my wife I want both???
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I would guess they will release similar to the Q9m, with online/telesales first, and stores 1 week later.

Just ordered a Q9 to see if it meets my needs; then I went to the local store and played with the demo i760. Hmmmm - how to tell my wife I want both???
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I would guess they will release similar to the Q9m, with online/telesales first, and stores 1 week later.

Just ordered a Q9 to see if it meets my needs; then I went to the local store and played with the demo i760. Hmmmm - how to tell my wife I want both???
Tell her one of them is for her! ...why would you want BOTH!? I could see a PDA/Smartphone and like a razr, but why two PDA/Smartphones?
 
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News sure slowed down here... oh well, I guess it beats useless rants, and dummy sitings... oh and postings like this one.
 
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News sure slowed down here... oh well, I guess it beats useless rants, and dummy sitings... oh and postings like this one.
I think everyone got fed up and went out and bought a Kaiser, or a Mogul, or a Q9 or any number of other alternatives.

I LOVE my Mogul, but I'd still like to have the external number pad! I think it say's "This is a phone! and oh by the way, slide out the keybord and it's a PDA too." instead of "This is a PDA, and oh by the way, it also makes phone calls"
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Ethan told me the new Q would be out this week (which it is) and that roughly 30 days after the i760 would follow. He said I could post that when the Q was dropped. Motorola requests at least a 30 exclusivity on certain products...

How does a 30-day exclusivity request by Motorola prevent Verizon from release products from OTHER manufacturers?
 
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How does a 30-day exclusivity request by Motorola prevent Verizon from release products from OTHER manufacturers?
What he is saying is that Mot requires a 30 day window with no new competeing device releases with the specific carrier.
 
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How does a 30-day exclusivity request by Motorola prevent Verizon from release products from OTHER manufacturers?
It is likely a 30 day exclusive on competing products, IE no other PDAphones within 30 days, but they can launch a new regular phone.

This is just my educated guess.

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It is likely a 30 day exclusive on competing products, IE no other PDAphones within 30 days, but they can launch a new regular phone.

This is just my educated guess.

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I thought the Q9 was a smartphone with music, how does that compete with a PDA?
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Met a VZW Enterprise Data Sales rep at a show yesterday and after he got done telling me that doesn't "touch phones" he pulled up a doc. He wouldn't show it to me, but said the 760 was, according to his file, slated for an August release. he did admit, DUH, that those dates can slip, but that it should be out soon.
 
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I thought the Q9 was a smartphone with music, how does that compete with a PDA?
Since smartphones and PPC/PDA phones perform many of the similar tasks they can be seen as competitors. If you go to Verizon's site you'll also note they are in the same category.
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Since smartphones and PPC/PDA phones perform many of the similar tasks they can be seen as competitors. If you go to Verizon's site you'll also note they are in the same category.
And a RAZR performs many of the same functions. E.g. makes phone calls, has a contact manager, plays music, has a calendar, web, email, etc. etc.

Doesn’t mean it competes with a PDA phone, or a SmartPhone for that matter. Might compete with an iPhone though.

Verizon's site has WM and Palm devices listed in the same category, and Blackberries listed in their own category. Does that mean the BBs are not PDAs? Or that WM devices compete with Palm?

I think not!
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Met a VZW Enterprise Data Sales rep at a show yesterday and after he got done telling me that doesn't "touch phones" he pulled up a doc. He wouldn't show it to me, but said the 760 was, according to his file, slated for an August release. he did admit, DUH, that those dates can slip, but that it should be out soon.
Kalugz, thanks for the info. That would be awesome, but it sounds to me like it might be old info. The i760 WAS scheduled for an August release (8/14), but was moved back to late September do to "certificate failure".
 
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Oh I agree completely. I guess the Enterprise Data guys look down at the "phone guys" anyway. He was nice enough, but probably didn't know for sure. I would be willing to bet that he opened up one of the spreadsheets posted here.

I will buy one and cant wait to skip my 700w across the nearest body of water. I bet I can get it to skip at least 5 times.
 
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Dominick_7,

Yes, I've posted a couple of things about Symbol in the past. MOT bought Symbol last fall (a potentially shrewd move). While Symbol doesn't really make devices most of us would want--and apparently has no CDMA portfolio at all--these guys probably know more about WM than all of the rest of MOT. This comes about because Symbol is an integrated data capture solutions operation. Their apps have to work!

If MOT had its act together (which hasn't been the case for at least 18-24 mos), it would lean on Symbol to design the "i760" we all want, and then turn over production and marketing to MOT's traditional operation. This is how MOT could blow off HTC at the high end. For instance, everyone knows that Symbol devices are bulletproof--just ask a package express driver.

Meanwhile, who got the US gov contract for the Census Bureau's handhelds for 2010? HTC. (Census undercount guaranteed!)

equus found a pretty good quick review of the Symbol MC70. Again, it's not what we want--and fairly pricey at that--but it's closer to being a "system" (as Symbol devices always are) than any other vendor's product line.

Incidentally, the other major "data capture" terminal house is Intermec Technologies.

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Wow great info and yes I believe that is the very Symbol LIKE device I was wanting to look at! Thank you! The Intermec mobile handheld CN3 I believe was the one on that list.

in reading what you said here, thats what I have in the back of my mind when I look at a device like that or the MC70 is that these people are actually using faster processors, have an complete edge in terms of durability/ruggedness, and they just seem really innovative in being able to integrate a complex amount of other functions, that it seems like these guys would be the kind of people I would love to buy a Pocket PC from. Very pricey yes, and I wouldn't buy anything that pricey unless I had extra cash I wanted to burn, but if they focused their talents on a Pocket PC w CDMA voice and or a nice Worldphone w CDMA and GSM voice functions I think they would KILL the competition with it.

Like, if they did a SGH i760 body with the newest fastest/most powerful processor, with the variety of 3G/EVDO internet speeds, WIFI, w an option for an internal camera (2 mp or above) and or cam for webcam (2 or 3 models one without a camera(s), one with a camera, and one with a camera an bar scanner?), good battery life, and a good amount of internal memory (perhaps closer to what the iPhone has, but give people options for how many GBs they want or just keep it w high GB capabillity) expandable memory card slot(s), IR, and the potential to add bar scanner add on capabilities if need be, that phone would totally rock!

It would consume not only the Pocket PC market in general because of its thinness and functionality, but also typical corporate markets, and the market that would be into Symbol scanning functionality .The phone would be stable and work like you said because they seem to know what they're doing and HAVE to.

This may be the list I was looking at in this thread...but I think it had more phones to choose from:

NewsBYTES :: Feb/Mar 2007.

I'm thinking it may have gotten deleted because it didn't have the i760 listed in it. Or perhaps it was one of these:

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To those who have played with a 'real' 760: Anyone know yet whether the SD card is high capacity capable or not? I'll need to get a new card (since my 4G SD card can't be used on the 760). My problem is I need a 4G size (2G doesn't cut it).
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Wow great info and yes I believe that is the very Symbol LIKE device I was wanting to look at! Thank you! The Intermec mobile handheld CN3 I believe was the one on that list.

in reading what you said here, thats what I have in the back of my mind when I look at a device like that or the MC70 is that these people are actually using faster processors, have an complete edge in terms of durability/ruggedness, and they just seem really innovative in being able to integrate a complex amount of other functions, that it seems like these guys would be the kind of people I would love to buy a Pocket PC from. Very pricey yes, and I wouldn't buy anything that pricey unless I had extra cash I wanted to burn, but if they focused their talents on a Pocket PC w CDMA voice and or a nice Worldphone w CDMA and GSM voice functions I think they would KILL the competition with it.

Like, if they did a SGH i760 body with the newest fastest/most powerful processor, with the variety of 3G/EVDO internet speeds, WIFI, w an option for an internal camera (2 mp or above) and or cam for webcam (2 or 3 models one without a camera(s), one with a camera, and one with a camera an bar scanner?), good battery life, and a good amount of internal memory (perhaps closer to what the iPhone has, but give people options for how many GBs they want or just keep it w high GB capabillity) expandable memory card slot(s), IR, and the potential to add bar scanner add on capabilities if need be, that phone would totally rock!

It would consume not only the Pocket PC market in general because of its thinness and functionality, but also typical corporate markets, and the market that would be into Symbol scanning functionality .The phone would be stable and work like you said because they seem to know what they're doing and HAVE to.

This may be the list I was looking at in this thread...but I think it had more phones to choose from:

NewsBYTES :: Feb/Mar 2007.

I'm thinking it may have gotten deleted because it didn't have the i760 listed in it. Or perhaps it was one of these:

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The only problem is that you and maybe 10 other people think the SGH i760 looks nice........lol..........
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To those who have played with a 'real' 760: Anyone know yet whether the SD card is high capacity capable or not? I'll need to get a new card (since my 4G SD card can't be used on the 760). My problem is I need a 4G size (2G doesn't cut it).
The i760 uses micro SD not SD so you'll need to change card types. So far as I know there is no definitive answer as to whether or not it'll support SDHC. I think one can assume it would but as w/ anything until final specs are out we wont know for sure.
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