The fact that this was reported at two locations, and affects 3 phones, out of the small sampling that this group knows of / has seen is somewhat disturbing to me.
Most of the dummy phones, physically, slider etc, are identical to the released product.
One more bit of information about the slider- the keyboard section (i think), has two spring loaded metal plates w/4 holes in each plate for what I would assume would be very small (probably eyeglass sized) screws. The metal plate fits in an indention in the screen section and assuming Samsung uses 4 screws to hold each plate it should be pretty robust. Both VZW reps said the dummies only came glued w/o screws.
The two sections have corresponding channels that allow the two sections to slide together, but the channels do not interlock - they just fit within each other.
It was hard to get a feel for the sliding machanism with the dummies being broken, but from what I could tell the slider feels alot like the i730... but id like to actually see a dummy phone thats in one piece to be sure.
The bloodsuckers at VZW want to skim every dollar they can while they still have the ability to do so. In 12 - 18 months, they will wonder where all their customers went. They have been charging for tethering for a long time already. at&t and Sprint do not. How much better does the network have to be before screwing the customer at every turn is no longer is acceptable?
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But if you use PDAnet you can tether as part of the unlimited (e.g. no ongoing charge).
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I apologize, I was really hoping you were making that stuff up. Alas, you were in the know!
No problemo, bro. We are all slightly frustrated with the i760 circus. I see someone posted the roadmap. A miniscual positive(I'm articulate after all, lol) at least time is moving closer to our day.
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No problemo, bro. We are all slightly frustrated with the i760 circus. I see someone posted the roadmap. A miniscual positive(I'm articulate after all, lol) at least time is moving closer to our day.
I live in Ohio but am in Palo Alto, CA on business. I was walking back to my hotel tonight and came upon a VZW store (on University Ave), so I stopped in to see if they had the dummy phone in. I walk in and ask a rep if they have gotten in the dummy version of the Samsung i760. The rep goes "uhhh....you mean the slider phone?" So I said I dunno...let me see it. He walks over to the desk and comes back with the top portion of the i760. I tell him this is it, but where is the keyboard? He looks around the desk and can't find it....so he goes in the back and then comes back out with the 2nd half. He goes "it was back in our repair shop".
Anyway, here's my take. Overall, very nice feel to it size wise. Definitely smaller feel width and thickness wise than the 730 and Treo. However, I didn't like having the front keypad on the lower right side. It was awkward being right handed and trying to get my thumb down to that lower right hand side. I would have liked it better if the keypad was on the left side and the directional pad on the right side. BUT, I still like the phone and will be buying it!
I am not divulging anything here so I will say that the Dummy that we got in, came apart at the halves shortly after I started playing with it. I took it home, took it apart screwed everything down well inside it and viola all good. seems, very solid now and it is back at the store. I wish that I had some lock tight for when I put it back together. The dummy colors are NOT jet black, but a very nice steel blue/black like color. I am worried about the build quality if all of these dummies are falling apart, but that is what warranties are for I guess. I will reserve judgement until I get to play with a real one more.
I will tell you that I am tired of waiting to start getting these or any PDAs in. Even the Verizon Data teams will not confirm that they know anything. I kind of have my doubts there. Either way September is the last month of Q3, so after that we are looking at Q4 releases. I could see that happening no matter how much it sucks.
It is getting to the point whre I am just over the whole PDA phones in general.
Sprint charges $25/ for tethering. But unl. data is only $15. Kinda backward huh?
Yes, and they can detect if your tethering with a plain vanilla phone, and charge you for it. Fortunately there's a registry hack that supposedly disables that.
BTW there are two third party apps that allow tethering, and are supposed to also disable Sprint's ability to detect them. The one already mentioned in this thread is PDANet, but there is also USBModem http://www.mobile-stream.com/usbmodem_wm.html.
Also, I wonder if SuperDave's BTModem found in the i-730 forum might not work? Might be worth a try. Unfortunatly, I haven't been able to get Marvin to pair to my Nokia N800 to try it.
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i agree totally. when i am paying $40 for my home internet connection with true unlimited bandwidth (although I suppose there is a listed limit somewhere) and i see cell companies charging as much if not more for slower service with less bandwidth - makes me really wonder if i need to get to the internet that badly.
for you business types - are the fees really indicative of actual costs for the telecoms, or is it a case of them charging a lot and knowing that most users will be businesses who are much more willing to simply pay what they are charged?
Yes, but this is a hack around Sprint's plan. This is not a sanctioned solution. So to say Sprint doesn't charge is incorrect.
I did not mean to imply that Sprint does not charge. I was saying that, while there is a fee for this, there is a workaround that works on any network that offers a data plan for PDAs. A lot of people use it. However, I would also suggest that this is a solution for the occasional tetherer and not for those who do this routinely.
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Effective bandwidth-based admission control for multiservice CDMAcellular networks Summary:We develop product form traffic models for single- and multiple-cell code-division multiple-access (CDMA) networks with multiple classes of mobile subscribers. The result is an admissible region bounded by a finite number of hyperplanes and a simple and efficient call admission policy. The CDMA mobile network, operating within the admissible region described, has a very similar form to a circuit-switched network operating with fixed routing. This similarity allows the existing traffic modeling techniques and network management strategies for general loss networks to be applied to CDMA mobile cellular networks. In particular, with standard assumptions on the call arrival processes and holding times, the stationary state distribution has a product form on the truncated state space defined by the call admission strategy
As a reminder, this thread is about discussion of the SCH-i760 and it's release and rumors, not about comparing it to the 6800, there is a thread for that. If you want to be funny and joke around about the i760, do it in the humor thread.
The good information is continually being buried in this thread, and it just goes by without much notice...
Try to keep it on topic please.
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