Whats funny is BOTH were broken in two pieces. Supposedly one was dropped by a customer and the second was "twisted wrong" when another customer tried to open it. Sure hope the real ones doesn't break so easily.
The fact that this was reported at two locations, and affects 3 phones, out of the small sampling that this group knows of / has seen is somewhat disturbing to me.
Most of the dummy phones, physically, slider etc, are identical to the released product.
The fact that this was reported at two locations, and affects 3 phones, out of the small sampling that this group knows of / has seen is somewhat disturbing to me.
Most of the dummy phones, physically, slider etc, are identical to the released product.
Based on my experience, I disagree. Most dummy phones seem like cheap plastic toys to me. This doesn't concern me at all.
The manager of the local VZW store just told me that her folks have returned from training and that we should see the 6800 within the next two weeks. She claims to have heard of the i760, but that is about all. I am wondering if VZW will be selling 6800s and partners like Circuit City will be selling the i760. Hmmmmm.
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The manager of the local VZW store just told me that her folks have returned from training and that we should see the 6800 within the next two weeks. She claims to have heard of the i760, but that is about all. I am wondering if VZW will be selling 6800s and partners like Circuit City will be selling the i760. Hmmmmm.
Yes, but it's a VERY important crosspost! Thank you!
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First time poster here, but i've been lurking since I purchased my i730 about 1.5 years ago.
Thought I would take a drive and see if I could get lucky and find a i760 dummy phone.. actually found 2. The VZW Kiosk in the Newgate Mall in Ogden, UT has one and so does the Kiosk in Circuit City on Riverdale Road.
Whats funny is BOTH were broken in two pieces. Supposedly one was dropped by a customer and the second was "twisted wrong" when another customer tried to open it. Sure hope the real ones doesn't break so easily.
The i760 definately feels smaller and slimmer in my hand. Probably because it is slimmer than the chunky feel of the i730. One thing I didn't like though was- when typing on the slider keyboard my thumbs would bump the edge of the screen section. It just didn't feel like enough room between the top row of buttons and the edge of the top section not to contact it. My hands are probably average for a man. Also the space bar is between the "V" and "B" on the keyboard which will take a little bit of getting used to. Overall through for a dummy phone it was really cool!
The rep in the Mall said he was told it would be released "would be sometime in September" but didn't have a firm date. He also said "it would be in line with the pricing of the other pda phones". He had no other technical info. They both said a spec sheet usually comes with the phone and neither had one which they thought was weird. Both also said they usally get dummies about a month before the real phones start to arrive.
So thats my report..... now im going back into waiting mode.
themoz,
Very nice first post!
Thanks
Mark
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I'm really confused, if the phone was released from Engineering 3 days ago, and it takes 90 days from that, then how could YOU and any others say it was going to be released for an AUGUST or SEPTEMBER date When in JULY it hadn't been "engineering released" yet. ?
One thing to keep in mind in all of this.......if a device changes specs or applications, it has to go through another engineering review process.
Since my original post wasn't appreciated because of my attempted INcryption, I'll spell it out. i760 is coming out in September, no earlier. 6800 isn't coming out until October as well as the 5800. There you go. Real insiders, not sales or bus. reps will know what my original post alluded to in regards to the roadmap thingy because it exists.
Four new pages of posts in one day, I knew something had to hit the fan. The wirefly page has lots to talk about.
Rev A vs. Rev 0, sorry, but for me this will affect my decision in 2009 when I replace my i760. Having it or not having it seems marginally important when you consider how underallocated VZW networking is behind the towers. The bandwidth potential is zero, so Rev A is irrelevant until the features are delivered.
On the VZNav, someone who pays attention to this GIN crap needs to explain. How does the app get position, tower triangulation? Or does it use GPS, but in a way that a 3p navigator app can't access it so you pay to play?
STANDARD HEADSET JACK??? MINI-USB PORT??? If these are true, I will post a blurry picture taken with my i760 of me eating a cup of worms.
Java application platform? Not in PIE, coffee and dessert don't go together. Java apps like the Mogul has? How? BREW? J2ME?
Email client supports VPN. LOL. I won't even dignify that further.
No sign of a cradle, phones lay flat now. 512mb card that I'll replace with a 2 or 4 or ...? Useless waste of ten bucks. No car charger? Good, they all do terrible things to batteries. This all leads to prices cheaper than we've paid in the past due to bundled junk we don't need.
In general, there seems to be a long wait ahead. Way too long for a four page post day over a retail site that has nothing for sale. Breathe, enjoy the rest of the summer, there's a lot of time to pass before the frenzy ends.
Nothing exciting there. It makes the "phone" look plain and boring...
-BINNER
i know it's just the shading of the PPT slide, but i actually like the slightly different color of the phone in that picture. black face with maybe gunmetal grey accents would be sharp, versus the all black plastic body that real life pics show it to have.
in terms of new info from the slide, like you said - nothing earth shattering. it does seem to be the first "official" confirmation, at least that i've seen, that it's coming in september (vs rolling august or getting pushed to october)
Since my original post wasn't appreciated because of my attempted INcryption, I'll spell it out. i760 is coming out in September, no earlier. 6800 isn't coming out until October as well as the 5800. There you go. Real insiders, not sales or bus. reps will know what my original post alluded to in regards to the roadmap thingy because it exists.
I apologize, I was really hoping you were making that stuff up. Alas, you were in the know!
of course, i guess we could have both been asking a stupid question, but i prefer to give us the benefit of the doubt
Article Information Effective bandwidth-based admission control for multiservice CDMAcellular networks
Evans, J.S.; Everitt, D.
Vehicular Technology, IEEE Transactions on
Volume 48, Issue 1, Jan 1999 Page(s):36 - 46
Digital Object Identifier 10.1109/25.740058 Summary:We develop product form traffic models for single- and multiple-cell code-division multiple-access (CDMA) networks with multiple classes of mobile subscribers. The key feature of this development is the specification of a flexible call admission control procedure that details the numbers of mobiles of each class in each cell that the system operator should allow in order to maintain an acceptable quality of service. Effective bandwidth techniques from the analysis of statistical multiplexing at an asynchronous transfer mode (ATM) based broadband integrated services digital network (ISDN) link are used to give performance guarantees that overcome the variability in interference levels characteristic of CDMA cellular networks. The result is an admissible region bounded by a finite number of hyperplanes and a simple and efficient call admission policy. The CDMA mobile network, operating within the admissible region described, has a very similar form to a circuit-switched network operating with fixed routing. This similarity allows the existing traffic modeling techniques and network management strategies for general loss networks to be applied to CDMA mobile cellular networks. In particular, with standard assumptions on the call arrival processes and holding times, the stationary state distribution has a product form on the truncated state space defined by the call admission strategy
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of course, i guess we could have both been asking a stupid question, but i prefer to give us the benefit of the doubt
BBAC = BroadBand Access Connect. Also known as PAM (phone as modem). It is merely the tethering functionality built in to allow them to charge you an extra $15 a month to tether your phone. I am betting as long as this puppy took to release that they were locking down the modem access to try to defeat the PDANet connection method.
BBAC
Effective bandwidth-based admission control for multiservice CDMAcellular networks
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