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Old 01-31-2007, 01:47 PM
     
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My sales rep .... regional manager said the release date for the I760 has been pushed back ... she was guessing Apr/May ... so Q2 sounds right ... of course MR would be closests to the actual ... he always has been before ...

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There is SUPPOSED to be a standard for the mini USB. Although sometimes these cable standards are not followed as you say, but since there is a standard all cables should work as interchangeably as long as the manufacturer followed the standard when they built the cable.
You would hope. The Q is different from the BB and that is different from the Creative Labs. (i have to get different "Tips" for my universal charger).
 
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ok so which is it..im seein either 2 i760 phone model

is it this one

http://www.gizmodo.com/assets/resour...sgh-i760-2.jpg


or

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.en...01/i760-sm.jpg

please help me....and when is it comiin out...i NEED this phone....i had the Q ...it doesnt even compare to what this phone has..and the form factor seems nice...
Two different phones. The first is the GSM version called SGH-I760. The latter is the CDMA version called SCH-I760, which is the topic of this thread.
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When you accessed the system screen, was the device responsive when navigating through the menues? For instance, if I soft reset my i730 and go into the settings menus for the first time since resetting, there is a long lag time between when I tap the "system" tab and when the icons actually appear on the screen. Did you notice any latency on the i760?
There was no noticible lag.
 
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Two different phones. The first is the GSM version called SGH-I760. The latter is the CDMA version called SCH-I760, which is the topic of this thread.

nooooooooooooooooooo

man the gsm version is wayyyy better...well then i guess ill have to hope for the i730......i want the i760 soo baddd...

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There was no noticible lag.
Excellent. I think this phone will be a winner.
 
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It looks like when this drops, we're going to see a mass migration from this forum to the i760 forum. I know I'll have mine on day one. The i730 has been a fantastic device, groundbreaking even, and it has served me well. But two years is the longest I've ever had any mobile phone (by about 18 months, actually) and it's time for a change. I can't wait.
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I know what you mean jpurv. My wife has even been asking me about my phone. I keep telling her that there just isn't anything out there right now that would be an "upgrade" from the 730. I don't see any sense in buying a new phone that has less features that what I have.

My only concern is this micro(whatever) sd card. I have a 4gig now and between my GPS and Bible and podcasting programs, it's pretty much full. From what I read the micro version only goes to 2gig right now. I don't look forward to having to keep track of more than one card.
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Once again, a reminder--

The SCH-i760 has not been filed with the FCC for Equipment Authorization (Type Acceptance). Thus, the "release clock" can't really start until the device shows up. Figure no fewer than two months from the date it appears here:

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf...ericSearch.cfm

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Thanks for the thread name change--obviously, "Robin" ain't gonna hatch in Feb, lol. Maybe we should roll out a "Part II" at some point...

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Actually BAM, I thought the FCC isn't releasing information and rulings for at least so many months. I thought the companies complained a while back and that the FCC said that they wouldn't publicize documents for so many months after the initial ruling, so that companies could keep some privacy until closer to a launch?

Am I just mistaken to that?
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Actually BAM, I thought the FCC isn't releasing information and rulings for at least so many months. I thought the companies complained a while back and that the FCC said that they wouldn't publicize documents for so many months after the initial ruling, so that companies could keep some privacy until closer to a launch?

Am I just mistaken to that?

A fair question, MR. Here's how it works:

By letter, the Applicant (Grantee) requests "Confidentiality" as to specific filing components (e.g., external photos, user manual, test rig, etc.); the designated items are then suppressed from public access, often for a period of 180 days (which can extend beyond the actual release date). Here are examples from Sony Ericsson's filing for its W888c:

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/fo...ive_or_pdf=pdf

http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/fo...ive_or_pdf=pdf

But as we know, an FCC Confidentiality Request Letter is essentially a brief episode of comedy in the converged, digital world. Thus,

W880i---> 3G
W888c---> GPRS
W880i and W888c added to the family on 2006-12-21

http://publish.it168.com/2006/1222/images/245191.jpg

A Confidentiality Request does not, however, mean the Authorization (Type Acceptance) submission won't show up. The filing itself is public record, but its components will be limited to what's unprotected, to wit:

(SE W888c listing)
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf...7A1022071'

So, to summarize, we'll certainly know when Samsung's SCH-i760 hits the FCC. Aside from a run-in with VZW's "Lou" (always a risk, lol), a public listing tells us that release is possible within say, two months and very likely within three.

What's more, our collective access to prodigious sources of intelligence is certain to uncover useful market-release information once we know the device has been Authorized and put into production.

Incidentally, while the FCC search engine can always be consulted, a quick-and-dirty reference page for weekly additions to the FCC device database is this one maintained by Engadget, called "FCC Fridays":

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/26/fcc-fridays/

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I follow the FCC Fridays on Engadget weekly, and I thought they implemented some policy for 180 days of privacy, and thanks for the rest of the detailed information. Explains a lot about it.
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I know what you mean jpurv. My wife has even been asking me about my phone. I keep telling her that there just isn't anything out there right now that would be an "upgrade" from the 730. I don't see any sense in buying a new phone that has less features that what I have.

My only concern is this micro(whatever) sd card. I have a 4gig now and between my GPS and Bible and podcasting programs, it's pretty much full. From what I read the micro version only goes to 2gig right now. I don't look forward to having to keep track of more than one card.
Wait a few weeks. You will see bigger cards soon. Tech things change real fast.
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not to get this off-topic from the i760... has anyone seen any more info on the htc libra / vzw 5800???

too bad i am not the "Lou" that does the testing... i would have to give some hookups!
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There is SUPPOSED to be a standard for the mini USB. Although sometimes these cable standards are not followed as you say, but since there is a standard all cables should work as interchangeably as long as the manufacturer followed the standard when they built the cable.
I believe there is a standard, but manufacturers have been expanding on it. In this case, the miniUSB standard (for data transfer and a certain voltage) is expanded to include the ability to accept a higher voltage to allow for faster charging, but the device needs to be able to deal with that higher voltage. You don't want an A/C adapter that puts out a higher voltage than 'normal' USB to be plugged into a device without the proper circuitry to handle that voltage (ie, the miniUSB connector on a digital camcorder), so you change the shape of the plug on the A/C adapter. Now that you've done that, you need to change the shape of the jack on the device to match your plug. But, you keep the shape similar enough to the 'standard' that you can still use the 'standard' plug & cable for data transfers, even if it may mean a slower charge at a lower voltage.
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Update on FCC "Confidentiality"

Wanted to add some official information to our knowledgebase regarding FCC Confidentiality Requests in conjunction with Applications for Equipment Authorization (formerly, Type Acceptance).

The below-linked .pdf from ATCB, a leading independent wireless certification services firm, clarifies the current FCC policy on confidentiality, which was effective June 15, 2004.

To summarize, there are two categories of confidentiality that relate to a device vendor's electronic Application for Equipment Authorization: indefinite/permanent and temporary/short-term.

FCC short-term confidentiality protection can be requested for a period of 45 days and renewed up to a total period of 180 days; it affects public access to the following items:

External Photos
Internal Photos
Test Setup Photos
Block Diagrams
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User's Manual
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Tune-Up Procedures
Operational Description

Permanent confidentiality can be requested for the following filing elements:

Block Diagrams
Schematics
Parts List
Tune-Up Procedures
Operatonal Description

What's important about FCC confidentiality is that if the device vendor "engages in public marketing activities or otherwise publicizes the device prior to the expiration of the short-term confidentiality..." the protection ceases and the FCC places the restricted items in the public database.

It would appear that Samsung's presenting the SCH-i760 at the CES in early January--however informally--should constitute "public marketing" for this purpose.

Finally, the cost of the FCC's "confidentiality" ticket is a mere $155.00. Some pundits would deem this fee way too low--and suggest the U.S. budget deficit could be balanced on the basis of confidentiality fees suitable for wireless device-makers...



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ATCB Information Regarding Different FCC Confidentiality Requests:
http://www.atcb.com/publicdocs/Memo-...ity-031306.pdf

FCC Fee Schedule:
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...7cfr1.1103.pdf

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Who files the manufacturer or Verizon.
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Is it possible that Samsung posted the device under a different name? From Engadget's weekly FCC update, I notice that Samsung posts a ton of different devices. If they posted it under a different name and there were not pictures, it's possible that the i760 slipped under the radar.
 
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FCC Equipment Authorization Applications are filed by the manufacturer, importer or distributor.

Although a carrier does not file, its sloppy public disclosures regarding unreleased new products could easily compromise a vendor's right to continued FCC confidentiality.

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USB 720 hits Verizon

I think this was mentioned.. but couldnt find it. Verizon announced the USB720 today which again matches up to the internal Verizon Document in the beginning of the post.

Would it not rock it the 760 came on this month. I know, I know.. there is a snowballs chance in hell... but I can dream.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/mobile-gadgeteer/?p=280

http://news.vzw.com/news/2007/02/pr2007-02-01a.html
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