With all these delays and now the latest for GIN...I see why AT&T grew at a faster rate than Verizon did last qtr. 1.5 mil to 1.3 mil....very interesting, with a record low of 1.6 % churn.

AT&T has attributed much of this to a good handset selection. Hmmm, wonder if Verizon will figure that out. I hope so, I really don't want to go through the expense and PITA it will take to move over.

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i600>XV6600>i730>700W>Mot Q>700wx>i760 Finally!

It never gets easier, You just go Faster - Greg Lemond

I still want to know why I need GIN on a PDA? I Wayne Orwig provided an excellent example of why we do not need it. Does anyone have a reason why we do or is this just a way for VZW to add ways to make money from people who do not know any better? Is it possible that people who need GIN (and I do not argue that there are people who do) probably do not need PDAs and that they are mostly mutually exclusive?

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Samsung i760 - WM6 - VZW
HTC TyTN II - WM6 - on the new at&t - and loving it!
"Fact veracity is not based on the validity of the source, but on the last thing posted."

Perlmane, I agree that we probably don't need GIN on a PDA. Although my wife just got the new Chocolate yesterday, and I have to admit that the VZNavigator application is pretty cool (even though they charge you ever time you use it). I'm still trying to figure out how that works. I'm guessing they triangulate the phone, the satellite and the cell phone signal to figure out where the device is.

While I was at the store, I spoke with one of the managers, asking if he's heard anything abou the 6800 or the i760. He said he hadn't heard anything. When I pressed a little harder, he started to smirk. Then I pulled out my i730. It was clear he knew nothing about pda's, but when he saw my i730, he said something to the effect of, "oh yeah, a while back, I saw a pda that we're going to release. It was really cool. The screen tilted." I asked him to clarify what he meant by "tilted," and he described a pda that looks like the Kaiser. He said it is supposed to replace the 6700. I pressed harder about the i760, but he claimed to know absolutely nothing about it. Take that for what it's worth. I don't place much weight on it at all, as there is no evidence that any CDMA carrier will be releasing the Kaiser anytime soon, but this guy seemed to think it woudl be coming out on VZW. The more I pressed about there being no Windows Professional phones on display except for the 700wx (yes, there were no i730's or 6700's there), the more he started to smile, seemingly implying that "the Network" would be releasing something soon. I am shocked that the only "Professional" phone on display was the 700wx. Simply amazing.

Edit: the manager also said that they are typically trained on the device a few weeks before it's released and that they haven't been trained on any new pda's recently.

I don't think it has anything to do with need or usage scenarios. It has to do with GIN being a service with a fee. Plain and simple

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i600>XV6600>i730>700W>Mot Q>700wx>i760 Finally!

It never gets easier, You just go Faster - Greg Lemond

Dude (Meg) you're making us CT folks look bad......

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VZW, It's 2008! Time to embrace technology, not suppress it. - oops too late I've moved on over to the iPhone w/ AT$T!

yeah, leave it to one of us CT peeps to freak everyone out!
we really need to see a new VZW internal document or something today - its been a couple weeks now right? anyone? anyone?
nothing new on the testman site still... this wait is brutal!!!

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Lou
What is next??? The Saga i770? The Omnia i910? The Touch Pro XV6850? The BlackBerry Storm?

click on the Y!Messenger icon on yahoo's web page and it tells you that you need GIN to download. However you can go to the same address with a non-verizon phone or laptop and it will fire right up. I copied the URL and bypass the GIN stuff on my phone.

I'm starting to doubt this phone if it's failing tests left and right - GIN or not I don't want it if it's unstable. My i730 is a workhorse (well, used to be)

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My phone PWNS your Iphone.

Magic 8 Ball sez - It will be August for b2b, and Sept 1st for general release...

Expect to see it advertised on the web site next week though... as coming soon!

They are just rumours about the i760 failing left and right............I hope people stop spreading news that is NOT true. reasons for hold up are not because the i760 failed tests.it has passed all tests, GIN does work on it...geez I have no idea where this started. Anyhoo, VZW's legal dept is where it is stuck. I am not at liberty to say anything yet, but please people can we calm down a little and around last week or third week of August look for it. Honestly WM6 is very unstable in testing out with conjunction to the phone and BT stack. Realise that the WM6 is NOT a phone OS and now this OS has to merge seamlessly with the phone and thats where MS is scratching their heads. It was solved recently and the i760 is "almost" going out the door.
Miata, this was NOT directed at you but I just your post to reply

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Funny it worked.....the last time!!Now I am not sure what was working before they put a hole in my head!!!!