Just to report after consulting, in some detail, PDAPhH's x6800 thread and many reviews of the now-released Sprint "Mogul" muscle-car...
The consensus is that the HTC x6800 is competent...if unexceptional.
Most agree it's a bit more refined than the x6700--and fixes some annoyances like limited screen brightness and sub-optimal keyboard backlighting.
Still, you don't come away from these reports with confidence that x6800 is an engineering triumph.
In fact, there's even some troubling chatter. To wit: no native industry-std headset jack (it's on an included USB dongle, or you go proprietary); fragile battery cover; underwhelming 2Mpx CMOS camera; somewhat wimpy performance (claimed by some to be slower than the x6700 tricked out with an unsupported-but-available WM5 AKU 3.5 ROM); and disappointing Bluetooth ops due to inclusion of MSFT's mediocre stack.
And of particular interest: nobody has praised the phone or HTC's build quality.
Which is to say that waiting [a few/some/several/many/bunches/bushels/30-yd dumpsters of weeks] for the i760 might be prudent.
Let the bake-off begin...
--BAM
KBAM: My Mogul is here tomorrow, so I'll be able to chime in on some of the build/phone questions, but (and I'm going off this spec sheet, Samsung SCH-i760 Specs | Technical Specifications | PDAdb.net so excuse/correct any errors)
The sluggish performance has been attributed to the 64 megs of RAM and WM6 Prof, not the processor, so I'd expect similar issues with the i760
The i760 is going to have a proprietary headphone jack also (though personally, I'm not worried about it-got to talk to a buddy today that said he was loving his Mogul w/ a Moto HT820 and it was working great)
The comments on the 6800's 2meg camera put it about standard for a 2meg camera, where-as the i760 is shooting with a 1.3meg camera.
I read through the same things you read through and it sounded pretty good to me, with pros/cons considered, where as you read it and see something different.
Haha, I guess it's to be expected though-I think to this group, our PDA's are modern art to us; beauty in the eye of the beholder right?
Just talked to my rep today because we're going to try to gut all the bberries in our dept and replace them with i760's with MS Xchange 2k3. She said they pulled back because they were going to send out with Rev 0 and now are going out with Rev "A"? I didn't really know what she meant other than Rev A was going to be broadband speed or even faster than a home users cable modem.
Anyone out there hear this as well? My guess is that after the buzz and then fizzle goes out of the iPhone crowd, VZW will release the i760 so that we can show our counterparts with their really really usless but cool iPhones how this whole data and voice device thing works.
MRailing said July 4thish??? First week of availability will be through the website??
The biggest problem with the i760 is by the time it will be released it will be out of date within a month. It's similar in specs to the HTC Tytn, which was released last November. With the release of the Kaiser and similar devices the RAM standard is going to be set to 128 and 64 just isn't going to cut it with WM 6 without hacking the device to free up memory. I do love the front numpad though.
Nightspirit makes a great point. I know personally my biggest gripe with the Q (actually one of the very few I have) is that it has only 64 MB of Ram. Now we're all salivating for the 760 to come out and it has the same amount of Ram but an OS that will no doubt use even more than we have to give. Too bad we can't use some of the space on our 2gb sd cards to add as a page file or something.
I just talked to my…
___ in-store sales rep
___ business rep
_X_ uncle’s best-friend who knows someone who used to work at VZW
I told them I heard it was going to be released soon, and they told me…
___ Tomorrow, tomorrow, I loves ya, tomorrow, your always a day away
_X_ its been delayed until the first full moon after the blooming of the wolfsbane
___ who is iProb8, and when is his birthday?
I went tubing down the Guadalupe River in New Braunfels, Texas this weekend and I met a guy who works for Verizon Corporate (go figure - they are human!). One of his business accounts is Samsung corporate and he is also eagerly anticipating the release of the 760. I asked about a release date and he said that he "talked to the Samsung rep and the general consensus was sometime in August". He said he would check on Rev. A EV-DO and get back to me.
Its a curious thing to me when some folks say that the one thing they don't like about the i760 is that it will be obsolete a month after it is released. What seems interesting to me about that statement is that we haven't even yet had the i760 in hand, although we have been waiting for it and salivating over it for nearly six months. And still, we are concerned about when it will be released, and how much longer we will wait.
So, I am trying to reconcile two things - the long wait for a new phone, and the thought that it will be obsolete so soon. In order to be obsolete, doesn't there have to be something available as a replacement that is far better than the original? So, if and when VZW finally releases the i760, if you believe it will be obsolete in a month, then you actually believe that they (or someone) will release something that soon that will render it obsolete?
Well, then just wait the extra month. Problem solved.
I don't have any contacts...I have to call the 800 number
Guys, just wanted to let you know I called this weekend, the normal 800 number here, I'm just a person who thinks he knows technology - but really I'm enough to buy the cool things and then tell a friend to fix it for me...but whatever, back to my story...
The rep on the phone asked if I was considering moving from VZW to AT&T because of the iphone, and I said no, it was due to the continued carrot of the i760. He said hold on, you can't believe the message boards half the time, and came back and said that the latest he had was that it was due to be released "mid-july" (if you say the 1st is the beginning of July and the 31st is the end of July..then by all accounts the 4th is somewhere "mid-July)...
Just wanted to let you know what they are telling us "we shouldn't even adopt technology cause it gets us in trouble" users.
Also went to AT&T and looked at the 8525, I'm in love for now....
If we are to believe the 4th, does not that not put us within that 10 day product window where the retailers / phone reps / corporate reps would receive the literature, information, documentation?
Still no real info tells me its probably not the 4th.
Surely their support people / reps etc need to be "trained" on the device prior to its release.
I've personally been debating jumping ship to AT&T and grabbing a Kaiser (8525 is old now) when they roll out. If only I could get them to match my retention plan...hmmmmm.
I am getting so impatient. I am just going to get whichever comes out first, the Q9 or the i760. Any input on this decision?
you have 2 completely different animals here...
the i760 will be (yes, this has all been said before...) WM6 Professional meaning "touch screen" and will be a more powerful device than the Q9. and there is also the layout differences...
the Q9 will be very similar to the current Q (which i happen to own and enjoy greatly) and will have WM6 Standard (meaning no touch screen) and less powerful Processor and most likely less memory (not sure of all the specs on this yet)...
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