Well, this news was sort of inevitable...

--BAM


ITC Denies Qualcomm Request To Stay Order in Broadcom Case

By MIKE BARRIS

June 22, 2007 9:05 a.m.

Broadcom Corp. said the International Trade Commission denied rival Qualcomm Inc.'s request to stay the agency's ban on the import of new models of advanced cellphones containing chips from Qualcomm.

The announcement comes two weeks after the ITC imposed a partial ban on the imports of third-generation, or 3G, cellular phones using Qualcomm's microchips in a ruling over a patent dispute between the company and Broadcom.

The decision meant that all the major cellular phone handset makers using Qualcomm's microchips in their 3G phones could no longer be able to import new models of their phones into the U.S. after June 7. New phones that are of the same model as those manufactured before June 7 will still be allowed into the country.

The ban affects 3G phones sold by Verizon Wireless, a joint venture between Verizon Communications Inc. and Vodafone PLC; AT&T Inc., Sprint Nextel Corp. and T-Mobile USA, a unit of Deutsche Telekom AG.

Before its June 7 ruling, the ITC, which is an independent arm of the U.S. federal government, had previously determined that San Diego-based Qualcomm was in violation of a patent held by Broadcom, which is headquartered in Irvine, Calif. The patent in question is for a device that lengthens the life of cell-phone batteries.

Qualcomm, which is facing a series of legal battles, said after the ITC's June 7 ruling it believed the commission "has overstepped its statutory boundaries." The company added it didn't expect the ban to have an impact on earnings in the short term.

--Tom Rojas contributed to this article.

© 2007, Dow Jones & Co.

Would that really effect us though? I mean if we think of it this way, i'm sure VZW already has plenty of these in stock, they're just waiting on the last few bugs to be fixed.. hopefully.. cuz they can't get x,000 of these ready in less than 2 weeks... i mean with the packaging and everything else...can they?

I have been worried about the inclusion of the Vcast features and the Mediacentric wheel o programs that may be crammed into the 760 much like the early shots of the Motorola Q9M posted earlier in the forum. Thankfully Mobileburn had some hands on with the Q9M and found you can disable that screen easily. If Vzw adds this stuff to the 760 lets hope this easy removal stays.

Motorola Q9m Live Photo Gallery (MobileBurn)

Okay guys, I have been reading everyday, but this hurry up and wait attitude is really killing me. I so want this device, I have been using a Treo 700W/wx for the past 18 months, and it's the worst piece of equipment I have ever used! Never ever again, even though a friend of mine hacked the hell out of it for me to make it function better.

I guess I am going to wait until July 4th, since that seems to be a good date thus far (there is a girl in the class I am taking right now and she keeps saying that verizon will have alot of phones out in July), but if that day comes and goes, I am just going to leave verizon all together. On that note, having seen the Kaiser today, I am now wondering if maybe it's not better to get the 8525 for now. Along those lines, since AT&T uses those sim cards, does anyone know if the PDA's use them too? That way I could get a razor too and just swap out the cards when I go out to the bars and stuff.

Just a thought, I don't want to loose the 760, as elusive as it's been it's been a good "friend" for the past few months, if only we could have gotten to know each other better....

I love your screen name

Equus, KBAM and Mrailing,

You guys should ban together and start an effort to get cell companies to stop suppressing technology.

If you guys but the same level of effort in this that you did with getting the FFC to release the documents on the i760 maybe you could get heads to turn and notice.

You could create template leeters to send to our congressman, etc.........

Come on lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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VZW, It's 2009! Time to embrace technology, not suppress it. - oops too late I've moved on over to the iPhone w/ AT$T!

Mark, I think you meant "band together," not "ban together." Of course, maybe you intended to say: "You guys should BAND together to promote a BAN on crippling devices."

Likewise, I think you meant "put" instead of "but. Of course, maybe you intended to say: "If you guys PUT the same level of effort in this that you did with getting the FCC to release the documents on the i760, maybe the carriers would get off their BUTTS and do something right for a change."

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The Fine Print:Nothing in this post (or any of my other posts) is intended to constitute legal advice or the establishment of an attorney-client relationship. For purposes of this forum, I'm just another nerd like you. :-)

Thank you IPROB8, i was going to say the same thing, but then i thought maybe he really meant that the three of them should actually "BAN".

Equus,
you make a good point that "Apple will go a mile further..." I think Samsung, and M$ have gone the extra mile as well, but it's the Carrier, in this case that has F'd things up (from what i have gathered in your posts).
I'm sure the iPhone doesn't have 3g because if it's not there, then how can you charge for it, or, we don't have to cripple it.

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Slightly off topic but...

With all of this talk of GSM and purchasing devices without carrier interference, did anyone else notice that dell.com has started to sell unlocked GSM phones? I think this is a step in the right direction. (if the link does not work just search for nokia)
Small Business: Server Utilities

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It's the network - 'cause it sure isn't the expansive selection of cutting edge uncrippled phones

Link Works for me.

Interesting. thanks.

You guys give me a break I am using my cell phone to enter this stuff.
Rather then make fun of me you should spend time helping the cause. You say you're in the business so help make a diference.

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VZW, It's 2009! Time to embrace technology, not suppress it. - oops too late I've moved on over to the iPhone w/ AT$T!

My Bus rep said that Management said the release dates are "TBD"

I told my Business Rep today to "Kick Management in the nads".. does that count for making a difference?

34 More Pages and we catch up to
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsu...hread-134.html

2676 posts over there.


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it was actually release at 117 pages around 2330+ posts.. so we are close to the release date

Just a bit of friendly ribbing. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm starting to get bored waiting for the i760's release so please forgive me for the bit of "cheap" entertainment.

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The Fine Print:Nothing in this post (or any of my other posts) is intended to constitute legal advice or the establishment of an attorney-client relationship. For purposes of this forum, I'm just another nerd like you. :-)

I just talked to my business rep who was sitting next to her regional manager, definite inside scoop as I could hear them discussing the answer after i asked....
Apparently, everything is set with the i760 minus some testing on some tweaks (vcast), but its being held up from the top by Ivan G. Seidenberg himself because of some (bonus-linked) wager with the board of directors about "release thread length" verse its predecessor. Neither of them were real sure what that meant exactly, but said that it was going to be two weeks from whenever the CEO makes the call, which means its TBD for right now.

Hope that clears things up...see ya on page 135

i just sent this email to Ivan

"When are you going to pull the trigger and release the I760 Samsung Phone.



It’s either that or the IPHONE."

rofl..........I know what you mean typing on a PDA keyboard and hitting that "send" spot !!!!!!!!!! It was all in fun Mark..........now anyhoo, to see can we MAKE a difference?...........I don't think so, phone companies look at the big picture of devices bought by consumers>>>>as an example most of the PDA's are bought by companies and then deployed to their top management people or Field Personell. These people could care less about the "crippling" of stuff cause they maybe use that PDA to only its 20% potential. Look around you when you are at airports or in places of "intellectual gatherings" after 5PM, these people keep looking at their screens every 5 minutes to see if they got an email from work and they dont do any surfing on the net, they don't go buy "third-party" software cause their company IT guy has told them that it is strictly for office use. Besides that these people are not on any forums like ours to get educated on the potential of these devices. All they hear about them is IF somehow they surf onto some tech news site they hear some "flunky" that raves about a PDA who in their time will ever never know how to tweak it like we do here. So a cell carrier looks at feedback from a business end user and they move on. Think about it IF these devices DID have a full blown BT capability, Wi-Fi capability then we all would be using VoIp in a heart beat and NOW that would get the companies get their undies in a bunch and then they will change carriers and NOW that will hurt the bottom line of these behomoths who run the carrier companies. So, I have resigned myself to this very simple truth that I am NOT going to join forces but will "sleep with the enemy" At the end of the day we here are a very unique, well informed and educated folks who love to be at the forefront of cutting edge devices whether it be phones or any thing else in life. How many know of sling box? How many know of how to hack the ROM like we do here. So we need to take a lot of that into consideration before we tell ourselves to go and start writing letters that I honestly believe will fall into deaf ears, maybe the trick is to stop buying VZW products and when that takes effect a company will definitely think to figure out what to do.
Sorry about these long posts of mine. I need to get a life and stop this rant BUT my heart says to go and tweak that frigging Wing I got so I can then complain about how bad that is Oh well I guess I will never learn to stop messing with these PDA's. Dang it we need to start us a PDA Addiction Clinic. Anyone up to start it? So, its all Kyocera 6035's fault and not mine or was it the Apple Newton?........man oh man am I old already?

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Funny it worked.....the last time!!Now I am not sure what was working before they put a hole in my head!!!!

So Equus, bottom liine... from ur experience with the i760 should us ppc power users wait for the it? will it be worth the wait? or should we just look elsewherre from now...
Wut ya think?

are we at Post 2,000 yet?
We are , we are..!!