I get a notification that states "Battery not supported, see owner's manual" The phone will not charge the extended battery. If I try to turn the phone off to charge it, it turns on and gives the error message.
The phone works however the notification does not disappear.
I have had multiple samsung, HTC windows mobile phones that I bought from third parties. This is the first time I ever had a problem. Just thought you should know. I am waiting to hear back from the manufactuer.
I get a notification that states "Battery not supported, see owner's manual" The phone will not charge the extended battery. If I try to turn the phone off to charge it, it turns on and gives the error message.
The phone works however the notification does not disappear.
I have had multiple samsung, HTC windows mobile phones that I bought from third parties. This is the first time I ever had a problem. Just thought you should know. I am waiting to hear back from the manufactuer.
This was in the user manual, and apparently is for real. I had inquired if anyone had run into this:
"Using A Non-Supported Battery
Samsung handsets do not support the use of a non-supported
battery.
When using a non-supported battery, you will hear a series of
beeps and you will see a warning message that indicates “NONSUPPORTED
BATTERY. SEE USER MANUAL.” If you receive this
warning, battery charging has been disabled.
Samsung charging accessories (i.e. wall charger, and cigarette
lighter adapter) will only charge a Samsung approved battery.
To continue use of your handset, press down on the Optical
Mouse.
Note: When using a non-supported battery the handset can only be used for
the duration of the life of the battery and cannot be recharged.
Important!: Using a non-supported battery may cause damage to your
phone. Use a Samsung supported battery only."
Is charging to full capacity part of the "low battery problem"
Maybe when the phone thinks it is at 100% capacity, it really isn't.
I got the Boxwave stand with spare battery charger. I like it and will describe it more elsewhere. The spare battery part has an LED that switches color. But the phone part, the LED never changes color. It charges and charges and charges until the phone beeps, displays at exclamation point inside a circle in the middle left of the taskbar (top) and a Notification appears in the lower left. When you touch it, a popup dialog is entitled "Information" and a message in the box says "Charging is Complete".
Never got that message before with the Samsung A/C charger so I wonder if there is an extra 10, 20, 30% to be added to battery capacity? I'm only on my first charge with the Boxwave charger but it doesn't seem to be going down as fast (maybe all in my head).
if you disconnect from data the battery life is superb!
i did a registry hack to make it so that after 5mins, it disconnects.
unless im online already...and it reconnects to check my push mail every 60secs.
also when i exit the net it disconnects if its i`ve been online longer than 5mins
um, life is GOOD in omnia land!
How did you do the registry hack?
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Maybe when the phone thinks it is at 100% capacity, it really isn't.
I got the Boxwave stand with spare battery charger. I like it and will describe it more elsewhere. The spare battery part has an LED that switches color. But the phone part, the LED never changes color. It charges and charges and charges until the phone beeps, displays at exclamation point inside a circle in the middle left of the taskbar (top) and a Notification appears in the lower left. When you touch it, a popup dialog is entitled "Information" and a message in the box says "Charging is Complete".
Never got that message before with the Samsung A/C charger so I wonder if there is an extra 10, 20, 30% to be added to battery capacity? I'm only on my first charge with the Boxwave charger but it doesn't seem to be going down as fast (maybe all in my head).
-Jim-
Jim-
Since day 1 I have had the message charge is complete using the Samsung OEM charger that came with the phone...
Eagerly awating your review on the desktop charger. I cannot believe Samsung has not made one.
Since day 1 I have had the message charge is complete using the Samsung OEM charger that came with the phone...
Eagerly awating your review on the desktop charger. I cannot believe Samsung has not made one.
Hi, Spencer
Yeah, I get the big white animated battery icon with that message in big white letters when charging is complete. What I'm talking about is at the Windows Mobile level. Maybe the Samsung adapter just overrides the Windows Mobile notification and that's why I've never seen ii before?
-Jim-
Last edited by Jim Lewis : 12-20-2008 at 05:09 PM.
I am experiencing some really bad battery performance on mine. I make it about 8 hours, and that's about it. We'll to be honest, I am still playing with it alot however compared to my experiences on past windows mobile phones, this is not holding up. Yes, I do use active sync, however I've managed to mitigate this on past phones. No I'm not expecting miracles, however, I was at least expecting the phone to make it to the end of the day.
Another thing I've noticed (and I dont know if this is related), but the battery meter between Spb plus and the internal system's dont match. However, I'm beginning to wonder whether Spb is the more accurate one. I think the system is not registering the battery life correctly and thus causing everyone to get their unusual and erratic drain. Some have said that they drain the last 50% much faster than the first. I see this too. However spb's readings are rather steady.
Ok, when I plug in the charger, I immediately notice the battery life jump up and it appears to actually charge the device some 30% with the first 1 min. This can't be. this is why I'm thinking there may be some kind of a bug in the way the device registers the li-on battery.
I'm wondering if anyone out there who has dropped in the boxwave battery has noticed different behavior between that and the OEM batttery?
Ok, something's definately up. Jim, I dont think it's in your head. I think you are noticing a difference. My device got down to 20% and gave me the low battery warning. I plugged it in the charger for like 2 min. And now the device is at 50% steady which is where spb said the battery charge was when the system thought it was at 20%. WTF?
Over in Howardforums there seems to be discussion about batteries ending in "31" not lasting as long as those ending in "20" which seem to be the replacement batteries. My battery is DC081105 out of the box and I got the phone about 2 weeks ago. I use mine mostly for email and the battery lasts all day but I'm not a heavy user of battery.
Does the problem seem related to the serial number on the battery or is it more of a usage issue.
Over in Howardforums there seems to be discussion about batteries ending in "31" not lasting as long as those ending in "20" which seem to be the replacement batteries. My battery is DC081105 out of the box and I got the phone about 2 weeks ago. I use mine mostly for email and the battery lasts all day but I'm not a heavy user of battery.
Does the problem seem related to the serial number on the battery or is it more of a usage issue.
Ok, here's some feedback on what I did to increase battery life. Some interesting things I've noticed. I made a couple minor settings changes and now my battery seems to run 3-5 times longer at least. I'll let you know tomorrow, since I didn't have a full day test. But I'm using the hell out the device and it's holding this time. The difference?
3 things.
1 is active sync, obviously. However, I didn't kill the data connection. All I had to do was tell it to sync at 30 min intervals and not "as items arrive". What can I say, I was used to it from before.
2, and this is the kicker. I disabled the backlight. The device even has a warning right there that says prolonged use of the backlight will drain the battery fast. I has no idea how fast. The one nice thing is that you dont really need the backlight since the omnia has such a bright LCD display. I did this from the "power" setting and told it NOT to light the backlight when the screen is tapped. Ok, one interesting bug I came across which also helps. When you do this, it also disabled the accelerometer. However, this may not be a bad thing since I'm thinking that drains the battery too. it's a sensor. And the backlight being off all the time disables the auto light sensor on the front.
3. Using touchpal means that I'm not wearing out the hepatic function. This also has been saving on battery drain with it vibbing everytime I touched a key previously on the Samsung keyboard. I like the action, but it's not worth the juice.
End result, even with the data connection being left alive, my device battery now seem more like it just took a 24 hour Viagra pill. What an amazing difference. last 2 days, I would run out of juice after 8 hours. Today, I've gone 13 hours, and am still at 60%, and I have been using it all day, typing, web surfing, email etc..
Tomorrow, I may just leave it on "sync as items arrive" and compare each day. I'll post more results.
....2, and this is the kicker. I disabled the backlight. The device even has a warning right there that says prolonged use of the backlight will drain the battery fast. I has no idea how fast. The one nice thing is that you dont really need the backlight since the omnia has such a bright LCD display. I did this from the "power" setting and told it NOT to light the backlight when the screen is tapped. Ok, one interesting bug I came across which also helps. When you do this, it also disabled the accelerometer. However, this may not be a bad thing since I'm thinking that drains the battery too. it's a sensor. And the backlight being off all the time disables the auto light sensor on the front......
Sounds like some excellent ideas...I have been using the Omnia with the backlight turned off from my forays outdoors walking the cat in the dark and often didn't bother turning the backlight back on. I have been wondering recently why my accelerometer sometimes worked, sometimes didn't. Now I know the answer! Thanks for a tip on saving battery life and explaining the accelerometer.
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Originally Posted by dkfif
Over in Howardforums there seems to be discussion about batteries ending in "31" not lasting as long as those ending in "20" which seem to be the replacement batteries.....
Interesting. One of my batteries ends in ..31, the other in ...20 and from my rotation schedule the ..31 would the original and the ..20 the spare. The Spb battery benchmark drain test, which charges batteries to 100% and then times the time to completely drain them under reproducible constant use conditions, would be the way to confirm the idea. Better than going on people's approximate experience. The only way I'd want to part with use of my phone is if I could run the test overnight.
Yesterday I left the safety of my 700WX. After getting past the trauma of no hard keyboard I am enjoying my Omnia. Thank you TouchPal. My complaint is the battery indicator. I use a program called kbattery, SourceForge.net: KBattery: Downloading ... , which shows a real time percentage of your battery life. Installed on my Omnia it only drops in 20% increments starting at 100%. It is a bit of a dissappointment to only have a rough idea, +/- 20%, of my battery charge. Is there any accurate way to get a real-time, numbered percentage of my remaining battery life that drops in 1% increments without going to a full "shell"?
Last edited by scubamike : 12-30-2008 at 05:19 PM.
Ya know? I think my battery life got longer when I installed the black background SPB Mobile skins. I think you can select a black background somewhere in the settings even if you don't have the skins. Worth a try, anyway. Maybe saves some power when screen is on?
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had my phone off the charge since 8am 1/17/08, i used the net for about 2 hours!
made about 30mins in calls, even did some streaming on qik for about 15mins!
battery still at 80%
WHAT!!???
amazing!
had my phone off the charge since 8am 1/17/08, i used the net for about 2 hours!
made about 30mins in calls, even did some streaming on qik for about 15mins!
battery still at 80%
WHAT!!???
amazing!
Hi, chizzy
Was % remaing by the Power applet or by a Today screen plug-in. Some of us think the plug-ins overestimate the amount of power left in the battery and that may be an Omnia bug.
I'm reaching the end of my 30 day trial and I think the Omnia is going back. Makes me sad as the Omnia has all the bells and whistles I want in a phone, but it just does not make it through the day without constant charging. I did not have this problem with my 6800, so I think I'm going to have to go back to it as it has the ability to pull the load. I think the issue might be the slightly worse reception the Omnia gets. I see that I'm spending more time in 1x and I know that burns through the battery fast. Oh well, perhaps they will update the firmware and that will fix it. I'd jump back in in a heartbeat, I love this phone.
Dan
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I'm reaching the end of my 30 day trial and I think the Omnia is going back. Makes me sad as the Omnia has all the bells and whistles I want in a phone, but it just does not make it through the day without constant charging. I did not have this problem with my 6800, so I think I'm going to have to go back to it as it has the ability to pull the load. I think the issue might be the slightly worse reception the Omnia gets. I see that I'm spending more time in 1x and I know that burns through the battery fast. Oh well, perhaps they will update the firmware and that will fix it. I'd jump back in in a heartbeat, I love this phone.
Dan
Might involve a few extra bucks but a spare battery is only about $40 bucks, a Boxwave charging stand with spare battery charger $61 with shipping. It's not that hard to change a battery out. If you drive and have a car charger or carry your USB sync/charging cable you can recharge your phone while driving or at any computer (if it doesn't have ActiveSync, switch the type of USB connection on the phone to Mass Storage in the Connections, USB Mode applet).
I don't think a ROM update is going to fix a poorly designed antenna, if that's what the problem is.
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