For months and months now, I have been wanting to get Opera Mini and Google's Gmail app working on my Samsung i730. I've tried every midlet manager I've ever heard of, including multiple versions of IBM's, and not a single one has ever worked.
Scratch that, an old version of IBM's would install Gmail and get as far as the login screen, then crash every time. It would install and run Opera Mini, very slowly, crappily, with no soft key support and no actual page loading.
I just found a midlet manager that A.)works on i730, B.) runs Opera Mini and Gmail app perfectly, and faster than any other application of any kind on this phone, and C.) can be downloaded HERE, from this post.
I don't want to say where I got this, because I think it's likely that either I will get in trouble or the person who originally posted it will. I don't think there are any issues with legality, personally, because the zipfile of the cab was posted free and clear on a free-registration open Internet message board, and I think the person who did it probably knows enough about what they're doing not to have done that if it wasn't wise.
So, here it is. Download the zipfile attached to this post. Install it. Fire up Pocket IE and visit Gmail. Click the link, and WATCH THE MIDLET MANAGER AUTOMATICALLY DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL IT CORRECTLY. Visit www.operamini.com/download and watch it do the same.
Fire up Opera Mini and watch it outperform every other browser ever made for Windows Mobile in speed and ease-of-use, with perfect soft keys, five-way navigation keys and keyboard support. Gasp over the iPhone-like full page/zoomed in view.
Weep for your new-found fortune in finding and installing the best midlet manager I've ever seen, the only one I've ever found to work flawlessly on the i730.
Sorry for the extreme dramatics. Glad it's working! It's working like GANGBUSTERS for me, still.
I had my Gmail account set up in Pocket Outlook to check using IMAP, but a good half of the emails I get are HTML, so that doesn't work well (having an i730, I still have WM5--I hear WM6 supports HTML email!). I used to go to the browser whenever someone sent me a rich text email, but I think I'll end up firing up the Gmail java app every time instead--it's so unbelievably fast. I can't BELIEVE how fast these programs run.
Also, keep in mind I keep my phone's CPU scaled up to 520MHz using SuperDave's Autostep at all times, that may definitely play a part in everything running _so_ fast.
And when I say fast, I mean FAST. I mean, I'd rather every program I install from here on out be Java, if Java can run so blindingly fast all the time. Already I'm going to start using Opera Mini as my main browser, only falling back to Opera Mobile or PIE when I absolutely need to. It's unbelievable.
any idea what folder this thing installs to? i installed it on my storage card, but i'm not seeing the program files anywhere on my card or device... anyway, reason I'm asking: I'm wondering if this thing supports command lines... for example, if i make a shortcut to "\jbed.exe -gmail" will that allow me to launch directly into the gmail midlet from that shortcut (which i would place on my today screen with SPB Pocket+)?
I'm wondering if this thing supports command lines... for example, if i make a shortcut to "\jbed.exe -gmail" will that allow me to launch directly into the gmail midlet from that shortcut ?
I'm still confused. The thread that you linked to indicates that you need a midlet manager and a java vm. But it doesn't explain what a midlet manager is or does.
I know about java virtual machines, and I'm aware that there are a few 3rd party vm's for Pocket PC, but this is the first time I've heard of a midlet manager.
Actually, when I said "midlet manager", that's what I meant, just a full java VM for PPC. Most Cingular PPC phones seem to come with one pre-installed, but Verizon phones don't, for some reason (leastwise my Samsung i730 didn't). Because of this, Verizon PDA phone customers have been largely locked completely away from downloading or installing some great mobile Java apps like Opera Mini, Gmail app, etc.
That's why I was so excited; for a while it felt like everyone with a PDA phone could download, install and use Opera Mini and Gmail BUT ME, and simply because I chose a PDA phone from Verizon.
For comparison, Verizon just released the xv6800, otherwise known as the HTC Mogul. On Sprint's network, it runs java using this same Esmertec Jbed JVM, but Verizon's version doesn't have it preinstalled for some reason.
So, twcowdery, if you don't have a JVM on your phone, install this one and there's a good chance it'll be all you need to run Java midlets. Note however that some Java developers have discovered unsettling problems related to compilation with Esmertec's Jbed JVM, however. (I've never had it fail compilation on me yet, but I'm not running homebrew java apps, either. Your mileage may vary.)
a_lazy_dude, that had me stumped; as well as I can tell, it installs straight to the \Windows\folder; I don't have anything that would let me analyze the Start Menu\Programs shortcut that the cab installed, when I open \Windows\Jbed.exe directly, it comes up, so I'm thinking that's what you're looking for.
I went through the bundled HTML help page (again in \Windows\), but I couldn't find anything on running midlets from a command line. But, I did find this ((MY) MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH: now, you can use Opera Mini as the system-level Web browser! - xda-developers) which seems to be EXACTLY what you're looking for-not just running Opera from a shortcut, but actually making it the main system default web browser to boot.
SavedR - Thank you for taking the time to post this. I've been looking for a application that would allow proper access into our corporate outlook web interface for months. (our access isn't something simply or direct like exchange.company.com but rather buried in secure access layers requiring java based security code entry). I've tried every PPC browser and JVM I could find and until now was unable to properly connect and reply to mail through this system using my I730. This finally did the trick for me and I was able to read and respond to mail directly with our server using the JBed and Opera Mini combination. Now to make this my default browser.
Thank you!!
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Thanks for all the replies guys. Here's what I've done so far:
1) Made a couple of direct application shortcuts to Gmail & OM (thanks vj950)
2) Eliminated the prompts about allowing an "untrusted" application: http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-6...tml#post656281
... about midway down the first post, he describes how to hexedit your selector.utf file. If you scroll down to post #19, there's an app which automagically mods your selector.utf so you don't need to do the hex edit yourself. This is what I did, and it worked like a charm.
3) Used a mortscript to make OM seem as if its my default internet browser when clicking links in other applications. (Thanks savedR) I used the WM5 app in this post xda-developers - View Single Post - (MY) MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH: now, you can use Opera Mini as the system-level Web browser! ... It worked great, except I had to change the first sleep command in the mortscript from 3000 to 5000 (in order to give jbed enough time to launch), and I had to change the jbed.exe command line from S0_ to S1_ (since OM is the second app on jbed's app list for me)
Man, I'm really loving OM. So far the only qualm I still have with it is that it seems impossible to extract a link (for emailing to a buddy, for example).... but I'm sure that a mortscript can be written for that too. If I find/make something, I'll post it up.
EDIT: yeah, nevermind, I'm pretty sure there's no way a mortscript can copy text out of it. but really, that only affects about 2% of what i use my web browser for... oMini rocks!
Last edited by a_lazy_dude : 01-12-2008 at 03:29 AM.
I always wanted to be able to run the Gmail app - never wanted to mess with setting it up in Outlook. Works great
The miniOpera was a huge surprise. Excellent and fast. I may finally uninstall Deepfish. Terrific for quickly browsing sites.
A bit wary about trying to set it up as the default browser, but #2 trick worked like a charm.
Thanks for the tip! Yes, what other apps are out there
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- Any thoughts on how to have MiniOpera open a file/stream with Media Player?
- Anyone know how to auto refresh the GMail inbox and/or a gmail instant notification?
The point of my question was to find out if this worked with PIE, not to get your opinion on which browser is better. So does anyone know if this will work with PIE?
So will installing this program allow me to view java websites from PIE too or do I have to use MiniOpera??
I suspect that a java-enabled website will not work in either, since neither support even javascript ... but give me a trustworthy java website and I'll try it out for you.
I doesn't work in either. Didn't think it would tbh.
Anyone know of an IM client midlet? I'm happy with Slick atm, but it would be fun to try out a java-based midlet doing the same thing. (like a Meebo midlet woudl be great)
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Glad it's working! It's working like GANGBUSTERS for me, still. 
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