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I carry all my software, both PC and cab, on my SD card, and I am currently using a 1 GB card. I don't carry lots of movies, but I do have two 4GB cards to carry the movies when I do. Have you thought about carrying an additional SD card, so having one SD in your phone, and just sliding the other SD card in your wallet? I carry two SD cards in my wallet, and my wallet is a front pocket wallet, very minimal on size. So I normally have around 9 GB of space on me when I only have my phone.

This would still give you flexibility and you wouldn't have to worry about file corruption, which was more of a problem with WM2003, but I have had it with WM5 when using an 8GB card. I would also like to see that an 8GB card would work, but only additional testing of multiple cards will determine that.

Yea I agree that 8 GB would be great. I actually do have a 1 and 2 GB SD card in my EB Case but I hate having to switch SD Cards, not only because I have a hard time getting them out of the Sd Slot (it was only made for one...as I stuff the other one in there), but also because I run some programs off the 4GB SD Card I have in there. On top of that it requires having long finger nails, and I unfortunately bite them SO it makes it more difficult to take them out. I just thought it would be more convienient to have more space on one card, rather than have the annoying task of taking the other ones out. I like to keep those on for movies and or music, but you can't fit too much on there. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Wayne, This is one thing that I'm not able to do.

I have a low budget GE 8-in-1 reader, a more expensive Belkin 15-in-1 and a built-in 6-in-1 in my laptop. None of these can read the 8GB SAMSUNG SD (three of these could read the 4GB SANDISK with no problem).

...and NO--I'm not gonna FORMAT the card in either of the readers to see what happens...I realize I'm living on a wing and a prayer with this card as it is.

Does Samsung make a card reader? Seems like it's Samsung devices that likes the Samsung SD Cards. I looked online and there aren't that many firmware updates I could find. Many are cameras..I don't know if there are any for Card Readers..though you think there would be since thats the only thing those things do.
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I carry all my software, both PC and cab, on my SD card, and I am currently using a 1 GB card. I don't carry lots of movies, but I do have two 4GB cards to carry the movies when I do. Have you thought about carrying an additional SD card, so having one SD in your phone, and just sliding the other SD card in your wallet? I carry two SD cards in my wallet, and my wallet is a front pocket wallet, very minimal on size. So I normally have around 9 GB of space on me when I only have my phone.

This would still give you flexibility and you wouldn't have to worry about file corruption, which was more of a problem with WM2003, but I have had it with WM5 when using an 8GB card. I would also like to see that an 8GB card would work, but only additional testing of multiple cards will determine that.
I use to store my SD card in my front wallet until it stoped working. Sand Disk sent me a replacement for free!
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Interesting no one speaks of defragging the SD cards.

On the standard XP defragmenting the disk is required to have 15% minimum of empty space to defragment. I suspect that loading the cards anymore than that will lead to poor performance and increase the likelyhood of data corruption. Numerous read, file removal from the FAT table, and writes invariably lead to file fragmentation.

Does anyone scan these new cards and format them to FAT32 prior to use?

As a note, the HP nw8440 reads and writes to the 4GB 150x Transcend SD card just fine.
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maxnix,

Defrag'ing has been mentioned in other threads, i believe that 11% was mentioned as having free space for good SD card operation.

I'd love to have a 8gb SD card, are all mini-SD cards SDHC? If not, hypothetically will a 8gb mini-SD with an adapter work in the i730?
 
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maxnix,

Defrag'ing has been mentioned in other threads, i believe that 11% was mentioned as having free space for good SD card operation.

I'd love to have a 8gb SD card, are all mini-SD cards SDHC? If not, hypothetically will a 8gb mini-SD with an adapter work in the i730?
That's exactly the question I have!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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Would be wise to buy a mini now and use an adaptor in anticipation of the i760.<o:p></o:p>
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Interesting no one speaks of defragging the SD cards.

On the standard XP defragmenting the disk is required to have 15% minimum of empty space to defragment. I suspect that loading the cards anymore than that will lead to poor performance and increase the likelyhood of data corruption. Numerous read, file removal from the FAT table, and writes invariably lead to file fragmentation.

Does anyone scan these new cards and format them to FAT32 prior to use?
With FAT or FAT32 the reason to defrag is so that all data is in order, thus when a spinning disk goes around it can be read in order. It reduces the amount of head movement to read a sngle file. (With NTFS it may save some space)
Since the SD card is a solid state device and can be randomly accessed, there is nothing to be gain defraging it.
The main reason for requiring space to defrag is so you can safely move files around to a new location and before erasing the fragmented file. Defraging can involve multiple file moves, you need room for that.

My 4GB SD card has about 150MB free (less then 4%). Been that way for about a year. No corruption.

IMHO, if defraging makes you feel good. Copy the entire card to a hard drive location. Erase the card. Copy it back. That will defrag AND give you a backup.

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That's exactly the question I have!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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I was going to buy a card to have it ready for the i760, but on this article:

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/1...the-blackjack/

it says "Micro SD". So I am going to wait until I can get confirmation with a picture of the actual slot with the words on it...
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The two 8 gb cards i bought from ebay through fastmemoryman have arrived. Neiter of them is visible at all in the phone .

Later when I find my camera I will see if they are visible in there.

TEC, is there anything you had to do to get these to work? I bought two of the same exact card that you did! Any ideas. Fastmemoryman has many positive feedbacks on ebay, so i am wondering what the problem is.
 
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The two 8 gb cards i bought from ebay through fastmemoryman have arrived. Neiter of them is visible at all in the phone .

Later when I find my camera I will see if they are visible in there.

TEC, is there anything you had to do to get these to work? I bought two of the same exact card that you did! Any ideas. Fastmemoryman has many positive feedbacks on ebay, so i am wondering what the problem is.

Just an idea I thought of, since I'm also very interested to see where this goes, is you may want to edit or delete your message and use his post in quotes so he knows you responded to it sooner via email. You sure you got the same Samsung SD Cards because I saw that dood sells other ones as well?
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Just an idea I thought of, since I'm also very interested to see where this goes, is you may want to edit or delete your message and use his post in quotes so he knows you responded to it sooner via email. You sure you got the same Samsung SD Cards because I saw that dood sells other ones as well?
I would concur, I actually emailed Technillion to bring him back to this forum and discuss his success with this card. You may need to do the same. There is still some interest in improving our potential with this phone while we wait, so a jostle now and then with a member would seem fair!

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i sent him a PM but no reply yet...
 
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i sent him a PM but no reply yet...
There was nothing "special" I had to do to get the 8GB card to work.

Plug n PRAY...maybe you forgot the PRAY part.

Honestly, I don't know why it's working on my phone...but it is.
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There was nothing "special" I had to do to get the 8GB card to work.

Plug n PRAY...maybe you forgot the PRAY part.

Honestly, I don't know why it's working on my phone...but it is.

Could you give us specific info on which SD Card you got and from where so we can know which one to get that will work? Thanks.
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I bought the Ultra 8GB SDHC card hoping to put more movies and other stuff on it after having used to 4GB card, I visited the Ultra web site to read why I could not see my 8GB card is the HC of the card is called High Capacity and it is NOT backwards compatable, so I'm stuck with a 8 GB that I can't use. I also bought a 22in1 card reader from TigerDirect and it reades the card but I want it for my phone. So has anyone made the 8 or 16 GB SDHC backwards compatable.
 
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As I previously mentioned in this thread, there are NO SDHC cards that will work in the i730, and I said this so people wouldn't waste their money on buying the cards. The largest capacity card the i730 supports (and Samsung actually says 2GB) is a NON-SDHC 4GB card. I can verify that a 4GB AData card does work in the i730, as I have one and use it.

I don't know why one user here had luck with it, but SDHC isn't supported, won't be supported, and nothing we can do to make it supported in our i730.
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I bought the Ultra 8GB SDHC card hoping to put more movies and other stuff on it after having used to 4GB card, I visited the Ultra web site to read why I could not see my 8GB card is the HC of the card is called High Capacity and it is NOT backwards compatable, so I'm stuck with a 8 GB that I can't use. I also bought a 22in1 card reader from TigerDirect and it reades the card but I want it for my phone. So has anyone made the 8 or 16 GB SDHC backwards compatable.

As you can see from the thread, the only that has worked so far has been the Samsung OEM one listed above or/on the previous pages..for some reason we don't understand. It showed having some sort of thing on it that helped it be compatible, but who knows why techs works, and someone else's didn't..I want to get one soon..but I'll definitely be sure to pray that it works before I bid on it.
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As you can see from the thread, the only that has worked so far has been the Samsung OEM one listed above or/on the previous pages..for some reason we don't understand. It showed having some sort of thing on it that helped it be compatible, but who knows why techs works, and someone else's didn't..I want to get one soon..but I'll definitely be sure to pray that it works before I bid on it.
But it's been reported to only work on one device, by one user. Keep that in mind when you order it.
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But it's been reported to only work on one device, by one user. Keep that in mind when you order it.
One device by one user that inferred that it may 'crash and burn' if he put much over 4GB in it.
 
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