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Signal Strength increase in the registry?

Hey. I think I found a key for the signal strength of the phone, (HKLM-System-State-Phone-Signal Strength AND Signal Strength Raw) but everytime I turn it higher than 30, like to 33, 43 or whatever, it goes back down to 30 after I soft reset. What I'm wondering is if one holds the stylus down on the signal strength key, it has an option for "modify binary data"..would messing with that allow for a greater signal strength or no?


I'm trying to find the best settings on the i730 for the highest CLEAR volume for incoming and outgoing calls, as well as for Bluetooth. Anyone have an idea or suggestions on this? My antenna broke and figure I might as well mess around with it since theyre giving me a hard time on a replacement.
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You won't be able to boost the signal strength with a simple registry change. This would have to be a change on the root level of the phone, not in the OS. This is where the Vocoder hack came in. It modified that way the phone communicated with the towers. Check the WM2003 FAQ for more information on the Vocoder hack. Nothing in the OS will allow you to boost the signal, it's also regulated by the FCC, and you would have to either change something in the hardware, or something like with the Vocoder setting in the root level of the device.
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You won't be able to boost the signal strength with a simple registry change. This would have to be a change on the root level of the phone, not in the OS. This is where the Vocoder hack came in. It modified that way the phone communicated with the towers. Check the WM2003 FAQ for more information on the Vocoder hack. Nothing in the OS will allow you to boost the signal, it's also regulated by the FCC, and you would have to either change something in the hardware, or something like with the Vocoder setting in the root level of the device.

Yea I did change the vocoder setting to the 13k or what not as it is suggested a while back, but just changed the gain in and output again recently in a more acreful fashion, so Ill see how that works. Other than that, do you know if any of those signal strength things you put into the phone work? They're like little like thin pieces of paper with a grid on them that look like they came from the world of tron. You know what I'm talking about?
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Oh those things. I tried one of those on an old phone when I got it for free, and it did nothing to the signal strength on the phone. I received no benefit from one of those....
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Thanks for the reply. Oh well I figured that would be the answer..they're usually thrown in for free like you said...bah.
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You raise an interesting issue, Dominick. Are you saying VZW won't swap out a unit for a broken antenna?

Not hard to understand this, as a busted antenna isn't a warranty issue, and that's all VZW really supports.

Call Sammy and see what it quotes for the part w/installation and w/out. Frankly, you should be able to put it in yourself...

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I was told that those little plastic stick-on things act to "remove static" from incoming signals and NOT to strengthen the signal.
It didn't make any noticeable difference for any of my phones.

BTW, I bought an external antenna for a samsung i700 and using it burned up the phones built-in antenna circuitry! The phone worked great while external ant was plugged in, but it was totally unable to pick up any signal without it. I received a new phone from verizon after the tech support team determined what had happened. I'm not sure how to decide when an antenna is too powerful or whatever, but it might be worth finding out before plugging one in.
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You raise an interesting issue, Dominick. Are you saying VZW won't swap out a unit for a broken antenna?

Not hard to understand this, as a busted antenna isn't a warranty issue, and that's all VZW really supports.

Call Sammy and see what it quotes for the part w/installation and w/out. Frankly, you should be able to put it in yourself...

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Unless Verizon does it it sucks. Samsung keeps the phone for like 3 weeks, yet does it for free but Im stuck without a phone for a while. Insurance will fix it for 50 freakin bucks MORE than what I already paid for the phone which I find unacceptable. And Verizon dosnt want to help you as a precondition/predisposition for their customer SERVICE peoples interaction with you. Verizon says they only deal with software issues that they can repeat on their end. Im gunna try calling those pirates again and hopefully hand their booty back to them on a platter. Hahaha.
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Hmmm, even though I don't suggest it, you could call them and tell them you are having issues with the alignment of the screen. Search for the alignment & bell curve thread and read. They will replace it...
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Dominick,

Well, props to Samsung if it will replace an antenna at no charge.

A gracious customer service policy considering a broken antenna can't really be construed as a warranty claim. Don't know of any other device vendor offering this support. Still, common sense suggests that antennas should always be designed to be user-replaceable.

It would seem that the solution to the 3-week turnaround cycle is to activate a backup handset...

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I was told that those little plastic stick-on things act to "remove static" from incoming signals and NOT to strengthen the signal.
It didn't make any noticeable difference for any of my phones.

BTW, I bought an external antenna for a samsung i700 and using it burned up the phones built-in antenna circuitry! The phone worked great while external ant was plugged in, but it was totally unable to pick up any signal without it. I received a new phone from verizon after the tech support team determined what had happened. I'm not sure how to decide when an antenna is too powerful or whatever, but it might be worth finding out before plugging one in.

Interesting. Yea I dont think I wanna burn mine up. Thanks for the tip on that.
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Hmmm, even though I don't suggest it, you could call them and tell them you are having issues with the alignment of the screen. Search for the alignment & bell curve thread and read. They will replace it...
Hmm we'll they said that even if there is that problem, or any other problem they can and will handle, if they ship it back and the manufacturer finds physical damage they will charge me FULL RETAIL price for it. Yes in bold print I say this. I think it sucks. All the options they gave me were just unacceptable..So..I did get to hand part of their booty back to them..kinda.


I wasnt going to send my phone to samsung to have them fix it only to not have a phone for three weeks..so the only option seemed to be to pay 50 dollars, which I donthave, in order to get a refurb where if I had any other problems with it Id have to pay another 50 dollars for another replacement and be stuck with my phone dealings with mr 50 bucks to do anything Asurion insurance company..Id never be able to get a new one..Id be stuck with paying 50 dollars for a jacked up refurb perpetually....so what I did was I talked to a supervisior ( for which I thank God he was nice) and he said that they could apply the 50 dollar payment where the insurance would get the money but that if I needed a new phone Data Tech would take care of it. According to him, Data Tech send me a crappy refurb, which all Ive seen have been crappy, then I can send them back tp Data Tech till they get me one that isnt crappy or till I get a brand new one after three jacked up ones. They said theyll bill me on my Verizon bill so I can keep working with them instead of Insurion..I still dont really understand it..I'm praying it goes smoothly, so well see how it goes.
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Refurb phones are not bad. They have been completely checked out, full diagnostics on it, replaced outer case, in reality they look completely new. I have had 3 replacement i730 phones, all refurbs, and have not had any problems with them out the box, just like new ones...
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Refurb phones are not bad. They have been completely checked out, full diagnostics on it, replaced outer case, in reality they look completely new. I have had 3 replacement i730 phones, all refurbs, and have not had any problems with them out the box, just like new ones...
I know you must have told your stories a few places already - but with three fully functional refurbs (and I agree with your opinion), what has lead you to need four i730's? Is it all the OS testing/etc?

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1st replacement - Ran over my phone with my car, basically jumped out of my pocket while getting in the car, ran over it, and then ran over it again pulling back in my parking spot since I was going back inside my house to get my "forgotten" phone. This was also about a week after getting it the first time, needless to say, it was a insurance replacement, and it was a brand new replacement.

2nd was because of one a contastant error message that popped up, on of the .c errors, which don't see to happen on WM5. This one wouldn't go away no matter what I did.

3rd was for screen alignment issues, the bell curve at the bottom, 9 days before my warranty ran out.
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Refurb phones are not bad. They have been completely checked out, full diagnostics on it, replaced outer case, in reality they look completely new. I have had 3 replacement i730 phones, all refurbs, and have not had any problems with them out the box, just like new ones...
Man I wished I recieved refurbs from where you get them. ALL of the ones I've recieved have the slide cover barely on..if you shake the device slightly the slide front rattles like crazy. Theyre also much dimmer than new ones. I don't feel safe with getting a crappy i730, wondering how long the countdown is before I have to replace that one. If they send me a refurb, I'd love it if it was REALLy like new.
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,..so the only option seemed to be to pay 50 dollars, which I donthave, in order to get a refurb...
Dominick,
Not true, if you put in an insurance claim and pay the $50 they send you a new phone -- look at Michael's "replacement history" post above. VZW send you a refurb, insurance claim send a new, shrink wrap sealed, device.
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You also must be paying for some type of insurance on the phone, either through Verizon, or your home owners (etc.). I pay the $5/6 month to Verizon to protect my phone, and have only claimed "insurance" once since actually starting to pay for my insurance.

My most recent replacement device, a refurb, is the best device I have received to date. The screen is tight, doesn't rattle, the display has decent color and brightness, and it has worked great with really only one hard reset since receiving it in later June.
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Not true, if you put in an insurance claim and pay the $50 they send you a new phone -- look at Michael's "replacement history" post above. VZW send you a refurb, insurance claim send a new, shrink wrap sealed, device.
I've talked with Assurion directly and they told me they only send out like new phones, where they put in all new parts, but it is not a brand new phone. So it is a refurb. Also I have already gotten one completely brand new, sealed in original box, i730 from Verizon, you just have to go through 3 refurbs to get it...IF you happen to get a nice Customer Service Agent or nice Supervisor who honors the three strikes your out pollicy. Many don't honor it. I've also gotten the same amount of refurbs from Verizon (hence having gone through the three strikes policy) and they all sucked. Mayby youre doing something different or they have niceer refurbs, but thats what theyve told me and what my experience has been. The slide covers are rattly and not on tight. None were..so far. We'll see what condition these will be in. I should get it in a day or two.
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Not true, if you put in an insurance claim and pay the $50 they send you a new phone -- look at Michael's "replacement history" post above. VZW send you a refurb, insurance claim send a new, shrink wrap sealed, device.
How do you know this? Ive talked with them several times and they all say theyre like new..not brand new.
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