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Old 12-05-2005, 02:00 AM
     
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NetGear wifi firmware "downgrade" works

My old linksys wireless router/4 port switch has bitten the dust. So, I picked up a Netgear WGT624 tonight. We have this router where I work and I have been able to connect to it.

As soon as I installed it and established an internet connection, it automatically detected a firmware upgrade and asked me if I wanted to install it, and of course I answered yes. When I went to connect my i730 via wifi, it wouldn't see the wgt624. PocketWinC would see it but after I connected I couldn't get on the internet.

So . . . After perusing the wifi router thread I noticed that some folks reported that this router worked while others reported that it didn't.

I went to the Netgear support page, and found even newer firmware than the setup program found automatically, downloaded and installed it, and it still didn't work.

The last thing I tried was "downgrading" to the earliest version of the firmware offered on the support download page "Version 4.0.4 Feb 13 2004" and it worked -- I'm now a happy camper.
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You might send this information to Netgear, just to see if they can figure out the functionality difference between the older firmware and the newer firmware.

Sometimes companies like these are willing to help out, other times they ignore you. I know for a fact that I have had VERY good luck with D-Link products and working with their tech support departments. I have actually helped them figure out a few of their problems with a couple of routers and access points.

Netgear might work with you to figure something out, or send you a BETA firmware for testing. This way you can keep up with the newest technology and security of the AP.
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Thought I'd update this thread in case anyone else was thinking of using the NetGear WGT624 Wireless Access Point Router.

When I got tot he office this last week, I checked the firmware on the router there, as I have always been able to connect to it. I found that it wan't the earlier verision that I "downgraded" to but, a newer version: V4.2.8_1.0.1 Published: May 17, 2005

So, I upgraded my new home router to this version firmware, and the i730 recognized it immediately.
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I have a NetGear WGT624 Wireless Access Point Router with firmware version V4.2.4_1.0.1. When this thread came up this morning, I thought I'd give it a try.

Since I never use WI-FI on my i730, I needed to figure out how, so I went to the WI-FI screen in the Settings\Connections tab and sure enough, I got a big button that said WI-FI Disabled and instructions to tap the button to enable it and some caveat about battery life.

Well naturally enough, I ran down the street naked yelling eureka! Only to find that my exuberance was premature. When I tapped the button as instructed my PDA locked up with the screen on, and the only button that would work was the Soft Reset.

Since I have been a little remiss in documenting all the hacks and 3rd party software I have, I’m not really sure of what I might have that’s interfering. Anybody got any insight/hypotheses/theories/natural laws about turning on WI-FI as an alternative to sliding the slider all the way up?
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Well naturally enough, I ran down the street naked yelling eureka!
Wow, it a good thing you're in Hawaii -- it'd be kinda cold to do that where I'm from. Aloha, (My brother & sister-in-law live in Haiku, Maui!!)


Getting wifi to work is kinda flakey ( as one of the threads is named) There are several threads on this. You can find an index to the most pertinent wifi threads in the FAQ here: http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=373914#post373914

To get my wifi to work, I usually go through this ritual:
  • put the phone in "flight" mode
  • un-enable Microsoft Voice Command (uncheck the enable box in settings)
  • uncheck all of my today screen plug-ins except the wireless one
  • soft reset
  • after restart I enable wifi and it usuall starts.

Another method if you have SPB Plus v3 installed is:
  • soft reset and quickly before booting is complete, soft reset again to cause the "safe mode" prompt to come up
  • tap on the screen to select safe mode before the safe mode prompt times out to boot in safe mode
  • once booting is complete, enable wife -- this also works with bluetooth
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Yup, it's pretty nice in Hawaii in December ... except for that &@^^*& PARADISE TAX!

Thanks for the quick reply, hardly seems worth it to jump though those kind of hoops just run WI-FI. I'm a little afraid to turn flight mode on, last time I did that it took me two days to get my BT headset working again.
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Yup, it's pretty nice in Hawaii in December ... except for that &@^^*& PARADISE TAX!

Thanks for the quick reply, hardly seems worth it to jump though those kind of hoops just run WI-FI. I'm a little afraid to turn flight mode on, last time I did that it took me two days to get my BT headset working again.
the above stuff works for bluetooth as well. Oh, I forgot to mention that I also turn off wirless sync, as part of the ritual.
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Thanks again Jim,

I guess what I was trying to say in my last post is that I don't use WI-FI anyway, so having to go through all those contortions just to get it running seems a little extreme to me.

I'm not the kind of guy that says "They said it by God works, so I by God want it”, even if I don't use it!

I learned long ago that the only thing I get from getting all upset about something is all upset.

If something doesn't work exactly as advertised, if I need it, I find a work around; if I can’t find a work around I live without it; if I can’t live without it I take my relatively fat wallet elsewhere.

If enough of us did that EVERY TIME, everything would always work as advertised.
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Getting wifi to work is kinda flakey ( as one of the threads is named) There are several threads on this. You can find an index to the most pertinent wifi threads in the FAQ here: http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=373914#post373914

To get my wifi to work, I usually go through this ritual:
  • put the phone in "flight" mode
  • un-enable Microsoft Voice Command (uncheck the enable box in settings)
  • uncheck all of my today screen plug-ins except the wireless one
  • soft reset
  • after restart I enable wifi and it usuall starts.

Another method if you have SPB Plus v3 installed is:
  • soft reset and quickly before booting is complete, soft reset again to cause the "safe mode" prompt to come up
  • tap on the screen to select safe mode before the safe mode prompt times out to boot in safe mode
  • once booting is complete, enable wife -- this also works with bluetooth
[/b]
I have SD's wifi and phone together 3 hack, so my ritual is a little more succinct:
1. Tap the wifi shortcut on today screen.
2. When you've finished using wifi, reverse step 1.

It doesn't lock up on me. So it could be that whatever Verizon did to get the phone to shut off is what's causing that. However, I also don't use Voice Command.
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