time change messes up appointments/birthdays/holidays
I searched to no avail..
I just noticed that after the time change either the phone or outlook has messed with all my appointments/birthdays/holidays in a wierd way. For some reason (i checked forward to next year and its the same) during non daylight savings time like right now all of the above start the day before at 11pm, and end the day of at 11pm. When i click on the appoitnment to change the series, it says
"Occurs every 'monthx dayx effective xx/x/2005 (GMT-07:00) Arizona."
..., my time zone is pacific!! im in Los Angeles and im not sure why it would do this. any ideas? ???
the time zone set in my computer is pacific, the phone is pacific, and in outlook is pacific. no idea what the deal is here... thanks
ive attached a picture to show how it looks in outlook..
One tip I can provide is to set your reminders, holidays, etc., on your phone and not in Outlook. I had some problems with that as well and found out that creating the events on the phone compared to Outlook solved the problem. Addtionally, I noticed that Halloween was set in a time format as opposed to a day format. You notice all the clock icons next to the holidays? These are not timed holidays, but rather..."all day events." Try this with the holidays:
Subject: Halloween
Location: (Leave Blank)
Starts: All day recurring
Ends: All day recurring
All day: Yes
Occurs: Every October 31
Reminder: None (Unless you want a reminder.)
Categories: Holiday
Attendees: No attendees...
Status: Free (Unless you are not free.)
Sensitivity: Normal
For Thanksgiving, since the date will be different every year...try this:
Subject: Thanksgiving
Location: (Blank)
Starts: All day recurring
Ends: All day recurring
All Day: Yes
Occurs: < Edit pattern...> (For this, click on "Edit Pattern", click on "Yearly", and enter the fourth Thursday of November--->Click "Next" and make sure "Does not end" is selected and click "Finish").
Reminder: None (Unless you want one.)
Categories: Holiday
Attendees: No attendees...
Status: Free (Unless you are not free.)
Sensitivity: Normal
Originally posted by botond all of those were in fact created in the phone when i set up the contact.... i was just merely viewing it in outlook..
Bo
Another tip I can maybe suggest, is don't use Outlook to add holidays. I know it has the option somewhere to add all the holidays to your calendar. The problem is, it doesn't do it correctly. It does it by time, instead of by day...which is why you are seeing the clocks appearing next to your holidays (unless you programmed the times and not made the events "all day events" on your PPC). Outlook screws it all up, which is kind of unbelievable. Enter the holidays manually the way I described above, and that should eliminate the problem you are having.
wow... that is ridiculously retarded and difficult to do, when none of the holidays or birthdays were entered by me, the phone did all that itself.... and it only happens to do this during non daylight savings time...what a joke
Originally posted by botond wow... that is ridiculously retarded and difficult to do, when none of the holidays or birthdays were entered by me, the phone did all that itself.... and it only happens to do this during non daylight savings time...what a joke
What's difficult and hard to do? I have had no issues and I also live in a "Daylight Savings Time" State. I have set all my holidays and events that take place every year for every month one time. After that, it's programmed and will go into effect every year thereafter.
This is also because you set them with a Start and End time, not because you made them on your phone or in Outlook. Anytime you make an appointment with a start time before midnight and an end time after midnight it will go to the next day.
If you make an All Day Appointment, like a birthday or holiday on the phone you need to set the All Day to Yes. This will then make the appointment all day, instead of a start and end time.
Now I don't know why you added the birthday's to the calendar or holiday's to the calendar from the phone, as Outlook automatically does it for you. For birthday's, add the person's birthday to your contact and it automatically adds it every year to the calendar.
Holidays. From Outlook click Tools, Options, then on the first tab (Preferences) click Calendar Options. In the middle of the options window is a button that says, Add Holidays... You click it and you can add holidays from just about ANY region.
No reason to do it manually when Outlook does it automatically, and it transfers over automatically with Activesync.
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Originally posted by mrailing This is also because you set them with a Start and End time, not because you made them on your phone or in Outlook. Anytime you make an appointment with a start time before midnight and an end time after midnight it will go to the next day.
I think I addressed the above statement already.
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Originally posted by mrailing
Holidays. From Outlook click Tools, Options, then on the first tab (Preferences) click Calendar Options. In the middle of the options window is a button that says, Add Holidays... You click it and you can add holidays from just about ANY region.
No reason to do it manually when Outlook does it automatically, and it transfers over automatically with Activesync.
As I was trying to explain here, OUTLOOK does not do it correctly. It adds the holidays by times, not as all day events. I have done this and already went through the hoopla with Outlook, so I said 'f' it and entered all the holidays manually as all day events on my PPC. That eliminated the problem.
Originally posted by mrailing This is also because you set them with a Start and End time, not because you made them on your phone or in Outlook. Anytime you make an appointment with a start time before midnight and an end time after midnight it will go to the next day.
WAIT!!! I never entered any of this!!! the phone did the birthdays and holidays and all of that on its own, the only thing i did was LOOK at it in outlook!! thats what my whole problem is.. my birthdays were entered in the contact info when i set the numbers up as i stated above...
Originally posted by botond WAIT!!! I never entered any of this!!! the phone did the birthdays and holidays and all of that on its own, the only thing i did was LOOK at it in outlook!! thats what my whole problem is.. my birthdays were entered in the contact info when i set the numbers up as i stated above...
Bo
??? You never entered the holiday and event information? Only in the contacts, i.e., notes section or elsewhere in the contact information?
Originally posted by DoctorPDR ??? You never entered the holiday and event information? Only in the contacts, i.e., notes section or elsewhere in the contact information?
yes! exactly!! thats what im trying to say (sorry if it didnt sound right) ... i dont know where the clocks came from...and they are ONLY there during NON daylight savings time...
i just did the "add holidays" in outlook, now i have the clock versions AND a normal version during non daylight savings times, and 2 normal holiday reminders for daylight savings time. lol now its reallly messed up..
Originally posted by botond i just did the "add holidays" in outlook, now i have the clock versions AND a normal version during non daylight savings times, and 2 normal holiday reminders for daylight savings time. lol now its reallly messed up..
Bo
I told you that OUTLOOK screws it all up when you add the holidays through that. Are you using Office XP with Outlook? That is what I'm using and I just added a new "TEST" Contact and entered a hypothetical birthday. I synced and the new contact appeared in my contacts. I went to the calendar to the day I made the birthday in the contact information and nothing was there. Sorry dude, but I don't know what to tell you here...your phone and/or OUTLOOK is possessed or something.
hmm.... well i dunno, but im almost 100% sure that this has to do with the arizona time zone setting (i circled it red in the screenshot) and i dont know where it came from, thats why i posted the thread in the forum....grRRrr
Originally posted by botond hmm.... well i dunno, but im almost 100% sure that this has to do with the arizona time zone setting (i circled it red in the screenshot) and i dont know where it came from, thats why i posted the thread in the forum....grRRrr
Hopefully, you have a good backup and can do a Restore and start from the beginning. I don't think the time zone would have an effect since I'm in EST and have to adjust for Daylight Savings Time too.
Try the backup and Restore and see if that eliminates the problem. If not, call Verizon Tech Support and maybe they can help you. However, in my past dealings with them...it seems that the members of this forum are more knowledgable about the phone than they are.
Originally posted by botond is there a way to erase all appoinments so i can try this again?
If you don't have a good backup, unfortunately, you will have to go through them manually. Just make sure to tap "No" to edit the entire series and DELETE AWAY. You should only have to do this for the current year, since any future holidays and/or events SHOULD be deleted as well by selecting "No".
heres my logic about the arizona time zone by the way:
during daylight savings time, arizona time and pacific time are the same, and the appointments/holidays are all "all day" no-clock nonsense in the phone. during NON daylight savings time, arizona doesnt change their clocks like everyone else, therefore making us 1 hour behind arizona. it seems like for some reason the phone wants all of the appointments to start arizona time always, which is 1 hour before pacific, or 11pm the day before.
Originally posted by botond heres my logic about the arizona time zone by the way:
during daylight savings time, arizona time and pacific time are the same, and the appointments/holidays are all all day non clock nonsense in the phone. during NON daylight savings time, arizona doesnt change their clocs but pacific does, therefore making us 1 hour behind arizona. it seems like for some reason the phone wants all of the appointments to start arizona time always, which is 1 hour before pacific, or 11pm the day before.
Now why it is doing this is beyond me....
Bo
I think I just figured out your problem...I have this under recurrence: (GMT-04:00) Try that time zone instead, since we are always adjusting for Daylight.