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Old 12-01-2007, 06:17 PM
     
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Okay, I'm having some problems with ICS... First off I'm running the newest 2.17 Sprint ROM that came out a couple days ago, and I have deleted the registry entry as suggested earlier in this thread.

I can get online using the phone as a modem by either opening up PIE first or just hitting connect on ICS. I then attach the phone to my notebook via USB and I can surf the web. Every time it will stay connected for a couple minutes at the most before I get disconnected. The following message then appears on the 6800:

"The remote party has ended this connection."

Has anyone else experienced this? What am I doing wrong?! Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA
I assume the registry entry that you deleted was "rilphone.dll". Perhaps Sprint has done something with the new ROM to counter act our discovery. I'm still on 2.09, but maybe someone with 2.17 could comment. I'd like to know as well . . .

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Tethering with 2.17 ROM

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I assume the registry entry that you deleted was "rilphone.dll". Perhaps Sprint has done something with the new ROM to counter act our discovery. I'm still on 2.09, but maybe someone with 2.17 could comment. I'd like to know as well . . .
I'm running 2.17 and have deleted the rilphone.dll entry. I launched Internet Sharing, selected "Sprint PCS" (I never use the PAM config), hit Connect, and then connected the USB cable to my laptop (Vista 32-bit). This got me connected to the internet just fine. I then launched my SlingPlayer to test the durability of the connection (consistent streaming of about 800 Kbps). I did experience sporadic disconnections, but I never got the "remote party has ended this connection" message that WinterXtreme reported. I did have the connection stay active for around 45 minutes once, but was disconnected after about 10 minutes a couple other times. I easily reconnected each time by pulling the USB cable, re-establishing the Sprint PCS connection, and then plugging the USB cable back in. At worst, it appears that Internet Sharing still works with the 2.17 ROM, but maybe it's not quite as stable as it was with 2.09. As I've been typing this, I've been connected for about 30 minutes with my SlingPlayer streaming video the whole time.

My wife is still running 2.09, so I'll mirror my testing on 2.09 and report any stability differences. It could be that my Sprint signal is dropping out rather than a problem with internet sharing.

-- update since original post ---
I have been connected without interruption since my original post (it's been a couple hours now), so I suspect that all is good with internet sharing on 2.17. Must have been signal drops that I was experiencing earlier.

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Old 12-03-2007, 01:17 AM
     
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Just got my bill for last month. With almost 300M of tethering using the simply registry entry deletion ("extension = rilphone.dll"), over bluetooth to my MacBook Pro, in various applications and across the country, no tethering charges.

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Old 12-10-2007, 05:01 PM
     
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Can't acquire ip address using "Internet Sharing"

Ok,

New phone, XV6800 via Verizon. Since internet sharing was not on the device I downloaded the files and put them in the Windows directory. I make sure my data connection is connected on the phone. I run internet sharing with the USB option. I have USB connections disabled on activesync. The PC recognizes the phone and when I start the internet sharing on the device, the PC tries to get an IP address from it and eventually times out.

I was under the impression internet sharing was supposed to make this easy, but I guess not. Anyone have any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:06 PM
     
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I was told this should work via bluetooth or USB, any lucky with anyone yet?

Gizmodo reported:
Here is my experience

I had many problems sharing internet with my pc after I did the update to ROM 17.

so I downgrade the ROM to version 9 again and logged on to the internet with the explorer.

after in connects to the internet, I opened the share internet function

then I select connect on the bottom on the phone with the USB and phone as modem slections

then i plug the us cable and you are online...

DO not update the ROM because it deactivates this function........

By the way i Got 1.8mbs... very fast...on my laptop
 
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:11 PM
     
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I have no problems with PDAnet and 2.17. Never used these other approaches.
 
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:32 PM
     
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Verizon xv6800 via BT to Mac Os

I have sweeped this entire board and google for days. Either I am really bad at search, or there are no solutions for the Verizon customers on the mac os via BT?

It sounds like the os setup significantly different for the verizon customers.

I have the tethered plan.
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I have the VZW tethering option on my Q also, and I've been able to pair and connect to every BT device I've tried (PC, Mac, XP, Vista). Only problem I had on the Mac was sporadic disconnects and timeouts. Didn't experience these on PCs. I've tethered via USB to Linux also but not via BT. But I've heard there are similar timeout issues with Linux also. I don't know the technicalities of it, something about loopbacks or whatever. But it does work.
 
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i can't tether with 2.17 and i have usb winmodem installed... ARGH the computer can't get connected during DUN.
 
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Ok,

New phone, XV6800 via Verizon. Since internet sharing was not on the device I downloaded the files and put them in the Windows directory. I make sure my data connection is connected on the phone. I run internet sharing with the USB option. I have USB connections disabled on activesync. The PC recognizes the phone and when I start the internet sharing on the device, the PC tries to get an IP address from it and eventually times out.

I was under the impression internet sharing was supposed to make this easy, but I guess not. Anyone have any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.

I too am having the exact same issue. Any insights anyone?
 
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:57 AM
     
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XV6800 on Verizon does not have a BT DUN profile when you pair it. So I would suspect that short of replacing the BT stack we may be out of luck as far as BT DUN tethering goes.
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ICS is supposed to allow BT internet sharing via PAN profile, not DUN. Implementing the BT DUN profile is carrier-dependent in this case. IF VZW does not implement BT DUN on the xv6800 this is a problem, because they also disable ICS in order to force MNAI authentication.

The fact that Sprint chooses to enable ICS and leave both MNAI gateways (phone and modem) gateways open and use an rilphone.dll byte monitoring extension to ICS is interesting. As most people who use ICS aren't getting billed regardless of whether or not they use the PCS (phone) or PAM (modem) gateway suggests that their monitoring and authentication procedures are rather "leaky". That's amusing.
 
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ICS is supposed to allow BT internet sharing via PAN profile, not DUN. Implementing the BT DUN profile is carrier-dependent in this case. IF VZW does not implement BT DUN on the xv6800 this is a problem, because they also disable ICS in order to force MNAI authentication.

The fact that Sprint chooses to enable ICS and leave both MNAI gateways (phone and modem) gateways open and use an rilphone.dll byte monitoring extension to ICS is interesting. As most people who use ICS aren't getting billed regardless of whether or not they use the PCS (phone) or PAM (modem) gateway suggests that their monitoring and authentication procedures are rather "leaky". That's amusing.
Verizon's version is quite "leaky" too. I got USB tethering working the other day without paying the $15 charge using Verizon's Modem Link app simply through a couple registry edits.
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ICS is supposed to allow BT internet sharing via PAN profile, not DUN. Implementing the BT DUN profile is carrier-dependent in this case. IF VZW does not implement BT DUN on the xv6800 this is a problem, because they also disable ICS in order to force MNAI authentication.

The fact that Sprint chooses to enable ICS and leave both MNAI gateways (phone and modem) gateways open and use an rilphone.dll byte monitoring extension to ICS is interesting. As most people who use ICS aren't getting billed regardless of whether or not they use the PCS (phone) or PAM (modem) gateway suggests that their monitoring and authentication procedures are rather "leaky". That's amusing.

One of the few times I love Sprint being so lazy. :p
 
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After Testing using ICS i was able to connect to the internet now i have a problem i cant sync my phone. so i was wondering if anyone has this problem and how they fixed it. With out a hard reset.
 
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Old 12-19-2007, 01:18 PM
     
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I've been USB tethering extensively with the Sprint 2.17 ROM / ICS, with rilphone.dll deleted. Works perfectly for me. With this configuration at least, it doesn't seem to matter whether the connection uses "Sprint PCS" or "Phone as Modem." I haven't been charged either way.

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You have to upgrade to the newest PDAnet version for Windows Mobile 6 compatibility. It is version 1.8. There is a token discount for people that are already registered users.
 
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Someone posted just the drivers and a update for Windows that allows ICS tethering without having Activesync installed.

Worked like a charm.
 
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I have tether with PDAnet 1.73 with Motorola Q on VZW last year with no problem.
 
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Verizon's version is quite "leaky" too. I got USB tethering working the other day without paying the $15 charge using Verizon's Modem Link app simply through a couple registry edits.
Would you either be able to post or PM me those registry edits that you used to get the USB tethering working?
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