according to the vw tech i talked to today he said the 6800 is avail in the south and west but not north east. that makes no sense to me. can any1 confirm?
according to the vw tech i talked to today he said the 6800 is avail in the south and west but not north east. that makes no sense to me. can any1 confirm?
I live in the South and it has NOT been released yet . Dec.7th.
Honestly, I think Verizon has loyalties. Samsung, Motorola, etc have more products available and on "the network" than HTC. I think the more pull a partner has with Verizon the sooner their products get tested and approved. Not all of Verizons phones have quality or reliability. I have taken phones back and swapped them out because they were crap. HTC has a small market and has very little pull with products with Verizon. The 6800 has been known about for at least a year now (I started looking and found it without a problem last December). I also find it hard to believe that the 6800 is that much of a mess. HTC has many products out and I have seen far fewer complaints about them than many other products. I think this has more to do with the CDMA companies changing everything on a device that probably worked fairly well from the factory (I understand every products has revisions, but would they have been as necessary with the manufactures software with WM5/6).
This is my opinion. There are many people that share it though.
I would agree with you on the condition that yes loyalties can play a part... but I doubt that is what is going on in this case.
I disagree that there are not problems with this phone... this forum is FILLED with numerous complaints and many... BT alone for an example is a problem that would have Verizon needing to exercise their great but expensive to perform customer service. They would be exchanging phones like crazy... with no fix available yet... now what sense would that make and how much money would it waste AND how much hard fought customer loyalty would it erode?
Just for the record and as a matter of disclosure... I am waiting for the phone myself but am more than happy to keep chugging along with my i730 until then. As a Realtor that depends on his phone as one of the most mission critical tools I use... I would rather wait until it is right. Hey... no one is perfect and who knows... maybe it will come out and still have a problem and I will be wrong, but in my experience thus far with Verizon; I am hoping it will all turn out fine.
I did not question why they haven't released the 6800 did I ?
I just asked why do the employees have to make up stories or lie
when you ask them a question. I wasn't just talking about the 18 year
old hourly employee in the store, I have had 45 year old Regional Mgrs
lie right to my face. Lying doesn't have anything to do with capitalism
or marketing firing on all cylinders - it has to do with lack of character.
I don't lie to my customers and VZW doesn't need to lie to me.
My hands aren't shaking to get the phone, they can put it out whenever.
I have a like new 6700 running a great WM6 rom and it works fine.
Quite simply... it's human nature
Everyone likes to be helpful or to appear knowledgable... or both. Everyone is asking about a handset... the company has made no official comments other than 4th Q but will that stop managers and clerks or anyone else that is getting badgered for info... or just trying to be helpful? It's just people talking... like they always do... but do you think that the company endorsed or condoned their input?
I do not...
Quite simply #2 This is a new day and age... before the net maybe a magazine would mention a new handset that was coming down the pipe but he would never give a day unless the company gave one. Now with the net and FCC leaks we are so far ahead of the curve that we get blood thirsty for our next toy/tool FAR AHEAD of realistic release date.
I might be wrong but my experience thus far has been that Verizon is waiting until the unit is right... that is the main reason we are still waiting for the phone... which makes it HTC's fault (if we must go there) that we do not have it.
Quite simply #3 This is what I would call premature anticipation
I have been waiting for this phone since August 1,2007. I intend to wait until it comes out. I have been with verizon for 10 years and i believe in their service. They will not put a phone out there that has problems and frankly i agree with them. Who in their right mind wants to constantly deal with customer service with issues that can't seem to be solved. In the past verizon has discontinued phones that have problems even if there only out for a year. I believe that this might happen with the xv6800 if the issues stated with the Mogul can't be solved. If will cost them a bundle if their customers keep returning the phone far a new issue.
I would agree with you on the condition that yes loyalties can play a part... but I doubt that is what is going on in this case.
I disagree that there are not problems with this phone... this forum is FILLED with numerous complaints and many... BT alone for an example is a problem that would have Verizon needing to exercise their great but expensive to perform customer service. They would be exchanging phones like crazy... with no fix available yet... now what sense would that make and how much money would it waste AND how much hard fought customer loyalty would it erode?
Just for the record and as a matter of disclosure... I am waiting for the phone myself but am more than happy to keep chugging along with my i730 until then. As a Realtor that depends on his phone as one of the most mission critical tools I use... I would rather wait until it is right. Hey... no one is perfect and who knows... maybe it will come out and still have a problem and I will be wrong, but in my experience thus far with Verizon; I am hoping it will all turn out fine.
I won't argue with you that there are issues with many of these devices. My point was that we really don't know how much of this is the devices themselves vs the software the CDMA companies are installing. Following the success of many of their other devices (primarily GSM) I would tend to believe it is a compatability issue with the carriers software.
I think if Verizon sold as many HTC devices as Samsung, Palm, or Motorola there would probably have been better time frames. I also believe if Verizon thought the PDA market was larger there would be more effort as well.
I also never said there was nothing wrong with this device.
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I also find it hard to believe that the 6800 is that much of a mess. HTC has many products out and I have seen far fewer complaints about them than many other products.
Like I said before this is my opinion. (no hard feels/arguements just opinions)
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Yeah, I like your phone by the way, the best phone they made except for the 9000 :P
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I mentioned recently that my VZW B2B rep promised me a demo unit of the XV6800 to use for free until they are realeased to market. Well it arrived today and I have tinkered with it for a few hours. My first impressions:
what a shame the screen is the exact same as the XV6700, i wanted it to be larger like the XV6600 but much thinner
the keyboard sliding to the right seems very odd, but i can probably get used to it and may like it later
the battery door cover is thin and feels cheap/flimsy, i can see it being lost or broken easily but perhaps this is misleading
the 2 megapix camera sounded nice but the test photos i took seemed to be blurry for no apparent reason
love the built-in wifi
don't like the 2-piece stylus or it coming out the bottom, neat idea but uncomfortable to remove and use when it slips around, and it still doesn't have a real ink pen hidden inside!
extra flash and Processor power seems to help the device speed a lot when loading web pages, unfortunately the screen is much smaller than xv6600 so not as practical for web use
good sound quality, ringer, vibrate, and phone controls, no issues on the basics
fully charged it then left it unplugged for about 1 hour, used it for about 15 minutes, and battery still said 100%, not likely and could be a symptom like the false meter readings on the XV6600
buttons on the side are easy to press which is nice when you need them, irritating when you are just trying to hold the phone
overall i wondered if it would have enough real value to justify waiting for so long and spending the extra $$$ compared to just keeping my XV6600 or getting an XV6700
right now i am leaning toward buying it if the price is $250 or less after my discounts, otherwise i might hold out or pursue a Tilt or 8525 or similar device
And my demo unit came with a pre-paid return label and a requested return date of 11/26, which is when they fully expect the inventory to be available for sale in the B2B channel. Hang in there gang.
I normally don't respond to jerks. However, since you heavily defend Verizon in your posts, it would seem that you work for them. It was a question, not an accusation!
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XV6800, XV6700 AND an XV6600, Plantronics Voyager 855 Stereo BT Headset, Jabra JX-10 Release 2, Aliph Jawbone, Motorola H700, Motorola H850, Jabra BT800, Sony HBH-660, 2 GB SD
I mentioned recently that my VZW B2B rep promised me a demo unit of the XV6800 to use for free until they are realeased to market. Well it arrived today and I have tinkered with it for a few hours. My first impressions:
what a shame the screen is the exact same as the XV6700, i wanted it to be larger like the XV6600 but much thinner
the keyboard sliding to the right seems very odd, but i can probably get used to it and may like it later
the battery door cover is thin and feels cheap/flimsy, i can see it being lost or broken easily but perhaps this is misleading
the 2 megapix camera sounded nice but the test photos i took seemed to be blurry for no apparent reason
love the built-in wifi
don't like the 2-piece stylus or it coming out the bottom, neat idea but uncomfortable to remove and use when it slips around, and it still doesn't have a real ink pen hidden inside!
extra flash and processor power seems to help the device speed a lot when loading web pages, unfortunately the screen is much smaller than xv6600 so not as practical for web use
good sound quality, ringer, vibrate, and phone controls, no issues on the basics
fully charged it then left it unplugged for about 1 hour, used it for about 15 minutes, and battery still said 100%, not likely and could be a symptom like the false meter readings on the XV6600
buttons on the side are easy to press which is nice when you need them, irritating when you are just trying to hold the phone
overall i wondered if it would have enough real value to justify waiting for so long and spending the extra $$$ compared to just keeping my XV6600 or getting an XV6700
right now i am leaning toward buying it if the price is $250 or less after my discounts, otherwise i might hold out or pursue a Tilt or 8525 or similar device
And my demo unit came with a pre-paid return label and a requested return date of 11/26, which is when they fully expect the inventory to be available for sale in the B2B channel. Hang in there gang.
Thanks for the review!
Have any pictures? Rom versions? Specs?
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Originally Posted by Ex-VZWTech
Yeah, I like your phone by the way, the best phone they made except for the 9000 :P
I normally don't respond to jerks. However, since you heavily defend Verizon in your posts, it would seem that you work for them. It was a question, not an accusation!
Heavily defend? Just because I share MY OPINION and it is not bashing Verizon (like most of this thread) does not mean I am defending anyone... I have merely offered my own personal opinion.
"So.......... How have you worked at Verizon?" Not an accusation? or... Not a smart a$$ comment?
Well, I don't work for Verizon and I don't even own their stocks, but I agree with the previous poster that it may not be all Verizon's fault.
I used to be with AT&T Wireless for many many years. A couple years ago, I was waiting for the GSM version of the HTC Apache to be released by ATTWS. As you all know, ATTWS was postponing the release for many months. If you would search the discussion thread of that release on this forum and on HoFo, you will find the exact same angers and dis-satisfaction expressed by the posters back then. Everybody was up-in-arms and everybody was cursing ATTWS. So VzW is not the only one who will do such thing.
In my humble opinion, all these carriers, whether it is AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, or T-Mo, they are in business to make money. If there is a product that people will buy, they will sell it for sure. They don't hold things back just for the fun of it. There must be a good reason for any hold back.
When I was with AT&T Wireless, their Customer Services were excellent. But Cingular has poor services. Now that they are one, this should bring them to .500. I had never dealt with Verizon before I purchased the XV6700. But their Customer Services are exceptional....even surpass what ATTWS used to be.
As of the network coverage, I had horrible coverage when I was with ATTWS. Later when they became Cingular, I had only switched my primary PDA phone over to VzW, but my secondary phone was still with Cingular. Again, the coverage was very poor. I couldn't get good signal both at home and at work (and I live in a major metropolitan area). I don't expect the coverage will change much now that they are back as Ma Bell. On the other hand, VzW has excellent network coverage everywhere I go. Last summer when our scouts were camping at the wilderness, I was shocked that my VzW phone and my VzW aircard were working just fine.
Is there any chance postings can be about release dates, not bashing VZW or other posters? (Or be about initial experiences with the 6800 - thanks for that!)
Is there any chance postings can be about release dates, not bashing VZW or other posters? (Or be about initial experiences with the 6800 - thanks for that!)
First post eh?
In order to post about release dates... there actually has to be one! And as we all know, VzW has never acknowledged one. They only recently even admitted the phone actually exists! <gasp>
Initial experiences with the 6800? IT'S A FREAKIN' HTC TITAN/6800. At least 3 other CDMA carriers have released it. Thousands of users have related their experiences with it on multiple forums. The hardware can't change (FCC papers have been filed). VzW is not going to release some magical smurf blue model
For what its worth (all be it probably not much at this point) I talked to a verizon rep at work today and asked him about the xv6800. He said there was no solid release date yet (no surprise) but he expected it to be out by the end of the month, end of the year at the latest (of course he had to throw in that extra month incase of delays). However he did say that he has played with the final version of the firmware so, if that is the case, we can all hope that the xv6800 will actually make it out by the end of the month.
wilee, thanks for the review of the XV6800. Knowing some of the aspects of the PDA is nice but you don't give much on internet usage except it's faster. Can you tell us more about the internet access? In particular is it capable of handling java content? That was the part about the XV6700 that I was most disappointed about; the lack of java support. Please tell us.
Last edited by CodysGrammy : 11-13-2007 at 10:03 PM.
It seems like there's something to the theory of larger contract favoritism... You can pre-order 3 new LG phones that are available later this month on the VZW page now. Lovely.
wilee, thanks for the review of the XV6800. Knowing some of the aspects of the PDA is nice but you don't give much on internet usage except it's faster. Can you tell us more about the internet access? In particular is it capable of handling java content? That was the part about the XV6700 that I was most disappointed about; the lack of java support. Please tell us.
(shakes head).... it's a HTC 6800... Of course it runs Java.
Last edited by Tonychris : 11-13-2007 at 11:34 PM.
Reason: restraining myself because I can't believe the lack of reading skills
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