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11-12-2007, 09:16 AM
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Join Date: 05-30-2007
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PDAPhone: XV6800, Audiovox 9155
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Originally Posted by Veloslave
And we all know the answer to this too...
They don't announce dates because if there are delays then they get bad PR. They tell their employees to not release dates too... but how many of them stick to that... and even worse... how do they stop them when they are trying to help someone out like a member here that is persistent about getting info? "C'mon man... just give what you have heard... I won't hold you to it" I wonder how many times that has been said? Couple that to the day and age of the net PLUS FCC leaks and you have yourself a real BUZZ that gets created without any official company involvement.
They have gone as far as mentioning officially that it will be out sometime late this year... and according to my calender they are still on schedule.
You can't get 2 out of 10 employees to give you the same info because there is no OFFICIAL info to give so they are all guessing according to what they know (OR DON'T KNOW  )
You can let the leaks & rumors and unofficial info get to you... you can get frustrated that the other company has it first but IMHO I believe that there is a reason that we don't have it or know when we will. If it would help Verizon... they would be the first to let us know... that's called capitalism with it's marketing sector firing on all cylinders.
Answer this... (but not emotionally or with bias)
Why would they keep this phone or release info from us if it were ready to go? |
Honestly, I think Verizon has loyalties. Samsung, Motorola, etc have more products available and on "the network" than HTC. I think the more pull a partner has with Verizon the sooner their products get tested and approved. Not all of Verizons phones have quality or reliability. I have taken phones back and swapped them out because they were crap. HTC has a small market and has very little pull with products with Verizon. The 6800 has been known about for at least a year now (I started looking and found it without a problem last December). I also find it hard to believe that the 6800 is that much of a mess. HTC has many products out and I have seen far fewer complaints about them than many other products. I think this has more to do with the CDMA companies changing everything on a device that probably worked fairly well from the factory (I understand every products has revisions, but would they have been as necessary with the manufactures software with WM5/6).
This is my opinion. There are many people that share it though. __________________
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Originally Posted by Ex-VZWTech
Yeah, I like your phone by the way, the best phone they made except for the 9000 :P
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11-12-2007, 09:36 AM
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Join Date: 10-28-2007
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PDAPhone: XV6700 WM6 #2 XV6900
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Carrier: Verizon
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Originally Posted by Darkrealms
Honestly, I think Verizon has loyalties. Samsung, Motorola, etc have more products available and on "the network" than HTC. I think the more pull a partner has with Verizon the sooner their products get tested and approved. Not all of Verizons phones have quality or reliability. I have taken phones back and swapped them out because they were crap. HTC has a small market and has very little pull with products with Verizon. The 6800 has been known about for at least a year now (I started looking and found it without a problem last December). I also find it hard to believe that the 6800 is that much of a mess. HTC has many products out and I have seen far fewer complaints about them than many other products. I think this has more to do with the CDMA companies changing everything on a device that probably worked fairly well from the factory (I understand every products has revisions, but would they have been as necessary with the manufactures software with WM5/6).
This is my opinion. There are many people that share it though.
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What you say is probably correct because HTC doesn't do Candy Phones
for the teeny boppers and that's what the carriers sell the most of-the music phones. |
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11-12-2007, 09:47 AM
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Join Date: 10-28-2007
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PDAPhone: XV6700 WM6 #2 XV6900
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Carrier: Verizon
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Originally Posted by Darkrealms
Honestly, I think Verizon has loyalties. Samsung, Motorola, etc have more products available and on "the network" than HTC. I think the more pull a partner has with Verizon the sooner their products get tested and approved. Not all of Verizons phones have quality or reliability. I have taken phones back and swapped them out because they were crap. HTC has a small market and has very little pull with products with Verizon. The 6800 has been known about for at least a year now (I started looking and found it without a problem last December). I also find it hard to believe that the 6800 is that much of a mess. HTC has many products out and I have seen far fewer complaints about them than many other products. I think this has more to do with the CDMA companies changing everything on a device that probably worked fairly well from the factory (I understand every products has revisions, but would they have been as necessary with the manufactures software with WM5/6).
This is my opinion. There are many people that share it though.
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Yeah , Sprint is having a ton of problems with the 6800 -compatability with
their software, where Alltel, which doesn't cripple as much , is having
a lot less problems with the phone. In fact I am reading in the posts
where a lot of the Sprint guys are starting to run Alltel Roms on their phones. |
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11-12-2007, 10:37 AM
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Join Date: 07-26-2007
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PDAPhone: XV6800
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according to the vw tech i talked to today he said the 6800 is avail in the south and west but not north east. that makes no sense to me. can any1 confirm?
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11-12-2007, 11:21 AM
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Join Date: 10-28-2007
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PDAPhone: XV6700 WM6 #2 XV6900
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Carrier: Verizon
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Originally Posted by joeblade69
according to the vw tech i talked to today he said the 6800 is avail in the south and west but not north east. that makes no sense to me. can any1 confirm?
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I live in the South and it has NOT been released yet . Dec.7th. |
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11-12-2007, 02:16 PM
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Join Date: 04-16-2003
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Location: N. CA Bay area
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PDAPhone: xv6800 dcd3.20
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Carrier: Verizon
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Originally Posted by BetaMan
So.......... How have you worked at Verizon?
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How long have you been a paranoid moron? __________________
Rod
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11-12-2007, 02:28 PM
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Join Date: 04-16-2003
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Location: N. CA Bay area
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PDAPhone: xv6800 dcd3.20
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Originally Posted by Darkrealms
Honestly, I think Verizon has loyalties. Samsung, Motorola, etc have more products available and on "the network" than HTC. I think the more pull a partner has with Verizon the sooner their products get tested and approved. Not all of Verizons phones have quality or reliability. I have taken phones back and swapped them out because they were crap. HTC has a small market and has very little pull with products with Verizon. The 6800 has been known about for at least a year now (I started looking and found it without a problem last December). I also find it hard to believe that the 6800 is that much of a mess. HTC has many products out and I have seen far fewer complaints about them than many other products. I think this has more to do with the CDMA companies changing everything on a device that probably worked fairly well from the factory (I understand every products has revisions, but would they have been as necessary with the manufactures software with WM5/6).
This is my opinion. There are many people that share it though.
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I would agree with you on the condition that yes loyalties can play a part... but I doubt that is what is going on in this case.
I disagree that there are not problems with this phone... this forum is FILLED with numerous complaints and many... BT alone for an example is a problem that would have Verizon needing to exercise their great but expensive to perform customer service. They would be exchanging phones like crazy... with no fix available yet... now what sense would that make and how much money would it waste AND how much hard fought customer loyalty would it erode?
Just for the record and as a matter of disclosure... I am waiting for the phone myself but am more than happy to keep chugging along with my i730 until then. As a Realtor that depends on his phone as one of the most mission critical tools I use... I would rather wait until it is right. Hey... no one is perfect and who knows... maybe it will come out and still have a problem and I will be wrong, but in my experience thus far with Verizon; I am hoping it will all turn out fine. __________________
Rod
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11-12-2007, 02:40 PM
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Join Date: 04-16-2003
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Location: N. CA Bay area
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PDAPhone: xv6800 dcd3.20
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Carrier: Verizon
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Originally Posted by jbh00jh
I did not question why they haven't released the 6800 did I ?
I just asked why do the employees have to make up stories or lie
when you ask them a question. I wasn't just talking about the 18 year
old hourly employee in the store, I have had 45 year old Regional Mgrs
lie right to my face. Lying doesn't have anything to do with capitalism
or marketing firing on all cylinders - it has to do with lack of character.
I don't lie to my customers and VZW doesn't need to lie to me.
My hands aren't shaking to get the phone, they can put it out whenever.
I have a like new 6700 running a great WM6 rom and it works fine.
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Quite simply... it's human nature
Everyone likes to be helpful or to appear knowledgable... or both. Everyone is asking about a handset... the company has made no official comments other than 4th Q but will that stop managers and clerks or anyone else that is getting badgered for info... or just trying to be helpful? It's just people talking... like they always do... but do you think that the company endorsed or condoned their input?
I do not...
Quite simply #2 This is a new day and age... before the net maybe a magazine would mention a new handset that was coming down the pipe but he would never give a day unless the company gave one. Now with the net and FCC leaks we are so far ahead of the curve that we get blood thirsty for our next toy/tool FAR AHEAD of realistic release date.
I might be wrong but my experience thus far has been that Verizon is waiting until the unit is right... that is the main reason we are still waiting for the phone... which makes it HTC's fault (if we must go there) that we do not have it.
Quite simply #3 This is what I would call premature anticipation __________________
Rod
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11-12-2007, 03:48 PM
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Join Date: 10-28-2007
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PDAPhone: XV6700 WM6 #2 XV6900
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Carrier: Verizon
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11-12-2007, 04:05 PM
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Join Date: 06-24-2005
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I have been waiting for this phone since August 1,2007. I intend to wait until it comes out. I have been with verizon for 10 years and i believe in their service. They will not put a phone out there that has problems and frankly i agree with them. Who in their right mind wants to constantly deal with customer service with issues that can't seem to be solved. In the past verizon has discontinued phones that have problems even if there only out for a year. I believe that this might happen with the xv6800 if the issues stated with the Mogul can't be solved. If will cost them a bundle if their customers keep returning the phone far a new issue. __________________
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