Yea...if you are the one that tipped them off to the FCC approval, they should give you some kudos for a job well done! Either way....and for whatever it is worth....I give will give a HUGE Thumbsup!!!!
On another side note....It is funny, whenever I try to Google for any additional information about the PPC-6800.....it is this thread that keeps on popping up!
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I love that quote ("I'd cannot live with just a smartphone")! Folks, we've caught the bug bad, real bad. Sadly, I don't think I can live with just the 6800. Too bad the increase in functionality & capability was more significant.
The only real problem with the FCC reports is that they reveal the 6800's WiFi and Bluetooth share the same antenna and therefore cannot operate at the same time...bummer. Could be a dealbreaker for me. I might end up just getting the 6700 unless it's got 96MB RAM/256MB ROM
good news: rev a. is in the hardware and HTC claims only difference between verizon + sprint (see: mode1 and mode2) is casing on outside. also 1500mAH battery
bad news: the wait, the full specs, some mention about how wlan cant be on while phone is on (but HTC says due to end users wanting to install voip they might not restrict this).
of course this doesnt mean that verizon or sprint wont do exactly that - limit the phone to being off while wlan is on (didnt work too well for the i730 if i remember correctly or the xv6700 either; simple registry hack) or requesting that rev a modem be removed. but guys, c'mon, i just dont see that happening especially with verizon and sprint putting out rev a evdo to one-up each other all over the country. if either of them took it out, the other company has the advantage if they leave it in. and if what HTC holds true, about both models being the same "internally", i dont think this will be a 700w vs 700wx memory issue. the only "possibility" i see happening (and this is a black eye for either company) is if they include the hardware but dont allow it to be turned on (much like evdo on sprint 6600). however this is so unlikely because the modem itself is rev a., you cant differentiate between rev 0 and rev a connecting to a rev a. tower from what i've read, i.e. you cant force rev 0 to connect to rev a. if the modem supports rev a. all in all, i think that sprint guy was talking out his arse, about the titan (6800) not having rev a, and thats to say it kindly. if you want me to believe that for the ENTIRE YEAR of 2007 the only way SPRINT wants you to connect to REV A is through a broadband card (remember, the sprint guy giving a presentation said no rev a. phones until 2008 ) you guys are pretty gullible. that statement alone is SOOO far fetched...
perhaps it was a VERIZON rep giving a presentation
good news: rev a. is in the hardware and HTC claims only difference between verizon + sprint (see: mode1 and mode2) is casing on outside. also 1500mAH battery
bad news: the wait, the full specs, some mention about how wlan cant be on while phone is on (but HTC says due to end users wanting to install voip they might not restrict this).
of course this doesnt mean that verizon or sprint wont do exactly that - limit the phone to being off while wlan is on (didnt work too well for the i730 if i remember correctly or the xv6700 either; simple registry hack) or requesting that rev a modem be removed. but guys, c'mon, i just dont see that happening especially with verizon and sprint putting out rev a evdo to one-up each other all over the country. if either of them took it out, the other company has the advantage if they leave it in. and if what HTC holds true, about both models being the same "internally", i dont think this will be a 700w vs 700wx memory issue. the only "possibility" i see happening (and this is a black eye for either company) is if they include the hardware but dont allow it to be turned on (much like evdo on sprint 6600). however this is so unlikely because the modem itself is rev a., you cant differentiate between rev 0 and rev a connecting to a rev a. tower from what i've read, i.e. you cant force rev 0 to connect to rev a. if the modem supports rev a. all in all, i think that sprint guy was talking out his arse, about the titan (6800) not having rev a, and thats to say it kindly. if you want me to believe that for the ENTIRE YEAR of 2007 the only way SPRINT wants you to connect to REV A is through a broadband card (remember, the sprint guy giving a presentation said no rev a. phones until 2008 ) you guys are pretty gullible. that statement alone is SOOO far fetched...
perhaps it was a VERIZON rep giving a presentation
Let's keep our fingers crossed because it would be great. The Processor speed might not support VOIP anyway. Also, it would be nice if it had GPS, but that's another story... I guess we wait.
waitasecond, backup. I know I'm late to the party but who said the were crippling the processor? its a samsung 400mhz if I'm not mistaken, and most of the new pdas running wm6 are using them. it is indeed faster and better with batter life than the current 6700, and the 6700/apache can use skype just fine.
in the fcc listing, htc even makes a reference to voip - saying that the end user may want to install voip programs - so I don't think it will be a step back in processing speed as some of you are insinuating. we aren't downgrading to a 200mhz! lol
I thought there was a rumor that it only ran a 200mhz proc. The spy photos show it with a qualcomm Processor at 384mhz. I guess that is just a test unit.
I apologize, I had forgotten the rumored pics show a qualcomm 7500 chipset and a 384mhz Processor. however, all cpu Processors are not created equal, and just because its rumored to be lower than the 6700s, doesn't mean it will run slower. amd and intel have long fooled us into believing the higher the mhz, the faster the Processor, but nowadays higher doesn't necessarily mean faster.
regardless to what the Processor is, whether its samsung 400 or qualcomm 7500 384mhz (a quick google on qualcomm 7500 has someong stating its there for rev a evdo speeds), I don't see HTC, with their first release on cdma networks, releasing a sub par handheld to kick in the door to them selling their own branded handhelds. almost every part of this 6800 has "upgrade" written on it, even if we don't want to buy/switch to microsds and proprietary headphones, including the battery, so I just can't believe in "downgrading" the Processor. I'd love to see some comparisons of the 384mhz vs other Processors (samsung, etc) but I'm guessng we won't until after the launch due to it seemingly only be included in rev a devices.
Just wanted to mention that this is definitely not a cpu downgrade.
The samsung 400mhz chip they will be using is a stacked cpu. Which basically means all of the parts like wifi,bluetooth,memory,audio, are all on one chip.
I.E.
memory read and writes will be faster
power usage is 75% less,
overall better performance at the same mhz.
Moreover this chip has some serious multimedia extensions that will allow hardware decoding of a number of different protocols (mpeg) and much better graphics.
sptop,
great info on the samsung 400. see if you can find any benchmarking on the 384mhz - everything I'm reading about the qualcomm 7500 is leading me to believe that is indeed the chipset they are using due to evdo rev a., and perhaps those pics aren't far off.
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Well it looks like they are delaying the release again. According to the pdadb.net pages the release date is April, however I did notice that it appears that it will be released with WM6 Professional.
that thing is so wrong, I wonder if its like wikipedia and the sinbad rumor of his death this past week - who edits that?
if you look in the fcc documents, clearly states 1500mAH battery, for starters.
I wonder where they are getting the 200mhz from. I'm really convinced now that the 6800 will have the qualcomm 7500 384mhz and not the samsung 400 due to the rev a chipset.
Saturday in Tampa, a sprint rep told me that the 6800 is coming in April, maybe the 2nd week. That all the rep new was 1 gig of ram Rev A and WM6... So it is a wait and see...
I really enjoy my PPC6700, but go backwards in MHZ is not going to keep me as a customer. I use my PPC6700 as a computer 1st and a phone 2nd, so I run a lot of WM5 apps and want more power as well as larger internal Rom and program ram...
If I can not get a good CDMA PDA WM6 phone by Jan '08, I moving back to GSM... I really like the specs on this GSM phone, even though it is bigger.
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Folks, we've caught the bug bad, real bad. Sadly, I don't think I can live with just the 6800. Too bad the increase in functionality & capability was more significant.
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