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Power-on on Slide - don't tell me I'm the only one who thought of this

I want to do exactly what the thread title says.

I want my phone to turn on when I slide it open. They put the power button in a questionably ergonomic place - the bottom of the slider position - I just want to flip it open and have it come on - it's a rather simple idea - but it seems to not be in the settings. If I knew the hardware variables I was looking for I could possibly just write it myself.
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You're not the 1st to think of it. Actually, Harry Blackstone did something similar on the old Dean Martin Show with 2 goats and a hankerchief
 
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You're not the 1st to think of it. Actually, Harry Blackstone did something similar on the old Dean Martin Show with 2 goats and a hankerchief
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lol! Wow.

Definitely not the first to think of it.. and I would love you forever if you could write something to do just that. Unfortunately, I'm not sure it's possible.

I never owned a 6700, but it was my understand that it had this functionality out of the box?
 
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lol! Wow.
I never owned a 6700, but it was my understand that it had this functionality out of the box?
Yea it's sad to think of it this way but in many respects we are going backwards in design.
The Samsung i730 did this, and it had a HARDWARE switch that you could use to lock the phone if it was slid closed - incredibly convenient - set it and forget the best kind of setting.
That phone is 3 years old and we are going backwards in hardware design.
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You're not the 1st to think of it. Actually, Harry Blackstone did something similar on the old Dean Martin Show with 2 goats and a hankerchief
That was hillarious! I actually laughed out loud.
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Yea it's sad to think of it this way but in many respects we are going backwards in design.
The Samsung i730 did this, and it had a HARDWARE switch that you could use to lock the phone if it was slid closed - incredibly convenient - set it and forget the best kind of setting.
That phone is 3 years old and we are going backwards in hardware design.
I think they consciously removed that "feature" because a lot of 6700 owners - like me - were having the keyboard slide open when it was in their pocket, thus turning on the power, and running down the battery, making calls, going back in time to kill Sarah Connor, etc. There wasn't anywhere to turn that functionality off.

That said, someone could write a very simple app to do this, I'm sure, as long as the device can sense when it's "open."
 
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I posted a while back looking for this same thing and I still haven't found anything.

Some said it was impossible to program.

It can figure out when it's open becasue it beeboops when you slide it open- problem is apparently you need to already be one to get that sensor to work.
 
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there's also 1 major difference between the 6700 vs the 6800

the 6700 the screen does not trigger the rotation until the sliding action is almost complete, in fact I could have use the qwerty to type message while still in potrait mode.

in an effort to make the rotation "seems" quicker, the 6800 rotation trigger before you finish sliding past the bottom row of key(the row of key with spacebar).

meaning if you just bump the top half open even slightly, it would be enough to accidentally turn on the power on the 6800.
 
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i agree with bigray327! When i am doing something on my phone and i accidentally slide it just a centimeter, the screen rotates. Its annoying that it rotates as it is, so i can only imagine that happening if the power was activated everytime you slid it. I run spb diary, and i could just imagine my screen kicking on in my pocket for a whole day! LOL my whole calendar and task list would just disappear, and exchange just syncs all day so it would just be lost.
 
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The power button is so close that I am just used to pressing the power button and slding it at the same time. No big deal at all. I would even turn that feature off if I had it to save battery juice.
 
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i agree with bigray327! When i am doing something on my phone and i accidentally slide it just a centimeter, the screen rotates. Its annoying that it rotates as it is, so i can only imagine that happening if the power was activated everytime you slid it. I run spb diary, and i could just imagine my screen kicking on in my pocket for a whole day! LOL my whole calendar and task list would just disappear, and exchange just syncs all day so it would just be lost.
are you saying that the device would turn on and then you would accidently erase stuff by touchign the screen or buttons?

If that's your point I would say the lack of a reasonable keyguard (like found on a treo) shouldn't preclude adding another feature.

the treo's (palm or WM) all have a decent keyguard, any candybar phone I've had has had one. I dont understand why there isn't a decent built in one for this device.
 
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are you saying that the device would turn on and then you would accidently erase stuff by touchign the screen or buttons?
It would slide in my pocket and therefore turn on. While it was on, hitting my leg or keys or whatever would cause it to sometimes dial, sometimes pull up appointments, all kinds of things. But whatever it did, it would drain the battery. No thanks!
 
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I don't see the problem. The power button is actually in a pretty ergonomic place compared to the 6700 which I would frequently turn on while pressing down on the top to stuff it in my pocket. When holding the closed 6800 in your left hand, it's under your index finger. In your right hand, it's under your thumb. When you flip the phone sideways just before opening the keyboard, the power button is also right under your thumb. You can actually power up simultaneously with the keyboard slide if you hit power with your right thumb, and slide the screen with your left, doesn't take much practice. Preferable to the phone coming on every time the phone bounces against your leg as would happen if the keyboard woke the device. Mine flips the screen when the keyboard is slid out a little more than 1/8", which is about how far you have to slide before meeting much spring resistance.

You can always turn off the button lock, so as soon as you slide the keyboard, you can just press one of the hardware buttons to wake the device and launch email or phone, or any app you've assigned to those buttons and start typing--which you would have to do anyway since just flipping open the keyboard and typing on the today screen does nothing. Still, you run the risk of turning on the phone in your pocket, but not any more so than if the keyboard could wake the device.

BTW, the button lock is basically the same as Keyguard, in that you have to manually power on the device in order to use the keys/touchscreen. I would have to assume it would also lock out the keyboard slide, since it is so touchy on the 6800, or you'd end up with the same problem once again--the phone waking in your pocket. Though I agree that with a less sensitive keyboard switch, it might be a nice option, the increase in convenience would be minimal and it's not something I'd really miss.

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in my humble opinion the button lock on this device is NOTHING like keygaurd on a treo or "normal" cell phone.

With the treo for instance you hit the email button and the keygaurd pops up and you have 3 seconds to hit the center key. If you dont hit the center key then the device goes to sleep again. If you hit the center key then it goes right to the email application. You can also do the same for phone app, calendar, home, etc.

WIth this stupid version on this device no matter what you get dumped to the home screen then have to navigate out. You can choose to use to use it's keygaurd sort of thing and then after you turn it on you have to hit the left soft button and a magic spot on the screen and still get dumped to the home screen. So you hit the On button off on the RIGHT TOP SIDE of the device, soft button LEFT BOTTOM FRONT, magic place on screen MIDDLE RIGHT to get to today, then navigate to the email/calendar/etc. With the treo you push a hard button and slide you finger over a bit to the center to hit the center button. It's WAY more ergonomicly sound. Seems to be the way most cell phones I've used handle it too.

You can use 3rd party apps to approximate that on this puppy. At the moment I've settled on spb mobile shell to try and make it easier to do one handed without moving the device around 3 times and it does help some (by replacing the magic screen location with the right soft button). But something is buggy- either SPB or the OS (I suspect the OS) and so, many times the device just doesn't lock when it should- several times my pocket has made phone calls becasue it doesn't lock when it should.
 
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Bump for hoping there is a solution to this now. I loved how my i730 would wake up when I slid open the keyboard. It was so convenient to me. Now it feels like I am adding in 2 extra steps to accomplish the same thing. (Powering on, then waiting for the screen to rotate).
 
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