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Old 11-16-2006, 11:20 AM
     
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Recording a Concert [audio only]

Hello all-

I have 2 questions I was hoping someone could help me with.

1) Has anyone tried recording a concert with their PPC-6700?

2) When I am recording the device stops after 20 minutes. I have the phone set to save the files to my mini-SD card. I suspect that the device must first store all files in the main memory and then transfer them to the card. Since I have about 20 MB free on the device and it takes about 1 MB per minute for recording, it would make sense that the device would stop when the internal memory is full. Has anyone run into this and is there a way around it?

Thanks - Whorley
 
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I use ProTone software that allows a lot more flexibility for recording - plus the ability to save to SD card of quite some length. I went to the John Mayer concert and recorded some audio. I think I need to mess with the input gain because the recording were all too "hot". I know the concert environment is loud, and I question whether a PPC-6700 mic is capable of a decent recording. In the past, when I call people during a concert and ask them to listen to the song being played, they usually cannot tell what song it is - only that it is loud music.

Good luck and post if you have success!
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You're absolutely going to have to use an external mic. Unfortunately, you may have to make up an adapter cable to make it work.
 
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Resco recorder work well ?
 
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What adapter is needed to make an external mike work? Anybody sell one? (I already have 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapters so I can use my normal headphones - what would convert a mike plug with a tip and a band to work with Presumably a jack designed for three bands and a tip?)
 
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Here are the results

The show that I recorded was Bob Seger in Milwaukee on 11/16/06. I was about 20 rows off the stage and I am trying to attach a short clip from the opening song, "Roll Me Away".

I recorded the show without a mic, using just the 6600 itself. Knowing that I could only record about 20 minutes at a time, I stopped the recording about every third song break, during the audience cheering. Then quickly re-started recording before the next song started.

Here are my takeaways, which you should be able to hear in the attached audio. When the crowd is quiet and there is not a lot of bass or drums it sounds fairly good. The phone CANNOT handle bass, drums or a lot of audience noise. I think that a mic is needed to make quality recordings.

I would love to get a better recording, and am seeing Bob Seger again in December in Michigan. Does anyone have any good suggestions of a mic to use and how to make it work with the 2.5mm jack. I have a stereo 2.5mm to 3.5mm jack, but I don't believe that it will work with a mic. Anyone know for sure??? I think that this http://www.seidioonline.com/index.as...ROD&ProdID=349 would work, anyone tried one?

Thanks - Whorley
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The show that I recorded was Bob Seger in Milwaukee on 11/16/06. I was about 20 rows off the stage and I am trying to attach a short clip from the opening song, "Roll Me Away".

I recorded the show without a mic, using just the 6600 itself. Knowing that I could only record about 20 minutes at a time, I stopped the recording about every third song break, during the audience cheering. Then quickly re-started recording before the next song started.

Here are my takeaways, which you should be able to hear in the attached audio. When the crowd is quiet and there is not a lot of bass or drums it sounds fairly good. The phone CANNOT handle bass, drums or a lot of audience noise. I think that a mic is needed to make quality recordings.

I would love to get a better recording, and am seeing Bob Seger again in December in Michigan. Does anyone have any good suggestions of a mic to use and how to make it work with the 2.5mm jack. I have a stereo 2.5mm to 3.5mm jack, but I don't believe that it will work with a mic. Anyone know for sure??? I think that this http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=349 would work, anyone tried one?

Thanks - Whorley
If this is something you're passionate about, why not purchase an MP3 player that can record audio and purchase a decent mic?

From the quality of your recording, I would consider this...especially if you want to be able to listen to it.

I know with me and live recordings -- if I cringe, it goes straight to the recycle bin
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Yes, that Seidio cable looks like it would work. I ordered one.
 
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Everyone interested in this topic may want to go here (PocketPCMag) and read the article by Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen and other articles linked from it:

http://pocketpcmag.com/blogs/menneisyys/112005SoundRecorderApps.asp
 
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If this is something you're passionate about, why not purchase an MP3 player that can record audio and purchase a decent mic?

From the quality of your recording, I would consider this...especially if you want to be able to listen to it.

I know with me and live recordings -- if I cringe, it goes straight to the recycle bin
Do you have any suggestions for a good MP3 player that will allow me to record a 2 1/2 hour concert?

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I have friends that use the IRiver iHP-120 and the Creative Jukebox 3 40GB. The Creative is more expensive (~$350) and the IRiver is ~$250.

The IRiver will record about 4 hours and the battery life for recording is about 8 hours.

Mics will be a different story. Depending on the concert (like I mentioned, DMB allows open taping) I have used some high quality Sennheiser mics with a 12 to 16 foot stand. You can find some real good small mics that you can actually clip on your backwards hat that will do the trick to. The only problem is shutting the crowd up around you while you're recording
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Audio Recording

Hello Everyone

I have a question.

I am a DJ and I sometimes would like to record my action (1-2hrs worth). Typically a CD Writer is on hand or someone with a laptop, but I was thinking... Hey can I use my 6700?

Is it even possible? Say I get some kinda 2.55 to 3.5 adapter, I can get a 3.5 to RCA (out of mixer in to phone), but is there a software that can RECORD it? I want to record it right to my SD card in say MP3 format?

Anyone do this yet?
 
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PS: no way I want to use the build in mic, I want to grab from a CLEAN source, like the back of the mixer
 
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Hey mcfz : I am also a club DJ. Most of the time I just run my laptop and use the Record out on my Gemini mixer to record my sets. I use AUDACITY (free) most of the time. Although I have NOT tried using the 6700 to record my sets, one would think that you would need to change the line level output from your mixer to a mic level before you feed it into the phone. You could get a 2.5mm to 3.5mm plug and then strip off the two lines that the microphone would use then run that to a converter that would effectively change your line level to mic level. You "should" (in theory) be able to record that audio source into the 6700.

Question is, (1) Is it worth going through the hassle to do this on a 6700 (2) Your mic in on the 6700 is MONO... the output coming from your audio mixer will be Stereo (unless you run mono in which case you would not have a problem there) so you would have to pick one channel (L or R) to send to the 6700...

IMHO, I would probably stick with the laptop - so "technically" it is "doable"... but the question still remains, "is it practical - and how good is it going to sound"
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Hey Rukshanw,

Thanks for the reply. In my case, I have some travel coming up and carrying a laptop would be too much.

I would prefer doing it on the 6700 and seeing the quality. Mono is fine, so long there is decent quality at the end of the day. A bearable recording in Mono would suffice most certainly...

I am not understanding the covertor portion of what you are saying exactly. I would like to atleast give it a test and see how it goes.

So let me see, would I need a ...

1 - 2.5mm Male to 3.5mm Female
2 - 3.5mm Male to RCA Male (in to mixer)

From what I gather, I need to convert the singnal or something? I know my laptop doesn't actually have a MIC/LINEIN/SPEAKER, it has a MIC & SPEAKER jack only and it works... So I figure why not on the 6700
 
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