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Old 10-26-2006, 04:57 PM
     
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Special keys like Ctrl and Alt on slide-out keyboard

I would like to be able to use things like ctrl-q on some of the programs. I also like using the slide-out keyboard, but it doesn't seem to have ctrl or alt equivalents on it. Is there a way to do ctrl-q or alt-p or something like that on the keyboard?
 
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Old 10-26-2006, 05:22 PM
     
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PQzII is what you need.
 
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Old 10-27-2006, 08:06 AM
     
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Wow, I just took a look at that link because I could also use Ctrl and Alt keys (as well as a forward slash key at least through a symbol screen) -- the info on the site is certainly confusing! From the site it actually sounds like this program is for the pop up keyboard not our pull out hard keyboard. Can you confirm it is for the pull out keyboard? Also is it as complicated to use as the website makes it seem? Thanks.
 
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It is intended for the pull-out keyboard; you can remap any key (most people use the Windows key, since you already have another one on the front of the phone) to use as Ctrl, Alt, or both (will cycle through them and show an icon on the top of either Ctrl, Alt, or both are active). You can also set up shortcuts to various keystrokes, commands, etc., using various keystrokes or buttons. There are numerous other features that are all outlined on the website.

The website seems confusing because it has been translated crudely from Japanese. The software is not hard at all to setup, and is fairly easy to use once you spend a bit of time fiddling around with it to understand all its features. If you want it to run it all the time, make sure to create a link to it in your Startup folder, so it will load automatically after soft resets -- otherwise, you will have to reload it manually after you soft reset. You can also turn it on and off manually if you don't want it running all the time.

If, after using it for a bit, you have any specific question, post them and I'll try to help out.

It's a very powerful piece of software, free, and doesn't use up much memory.

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I could also use ... a forward slash key ...
CMeys: A simple way to get a forward slash key (or any other symbol that you can't find on the keyboard), is to edit the special symbol table (sym.txt) so that you can get it with your desired keystroke. You don't need PQzII for that (though you could also do it using PQzII too if you wanted to). See my previous posts in the middle of this link:

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Just so you know, you can already get a forward slash ("\") by entering a backslash ("/"), then holding down the option key (red dot) and pressing the spacebar.

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Thanks, your other post contains lots of info I can use. I may or may not still try PQzII -- the Ctrl and Alt would still be useful. I'll see. Thanks.
 
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CMEys--

I tried to read the sym.txt file in Notepad, but it was all in extended characters (i.e., gibberish). Is there some setting I need to try to see what the settings are in the file?
 
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Milton129:

I tried the download for PQzII, and when I unzipped it on my PC didn't get anything like the list that the web page says I should get for the files. As I read the instructions, I download PQzII to my pc; unzip the cab there; then move specific files and folders to the device. The extracted files don't match the files listed on the web page. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
 
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milton129 posted about the sym.txt file not me.
 
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Whoops, you're right.

And now that I'm in the reply screen, I don't see anymore who wrote about PQzII, which I've downloaded. I was dissappointed it doesn't seem to have a help file; where I can go to find out what the various settings are all about? I figured out how to set a CTRL and ALT key on the physical keyboard, but what are all those other choices? And what are some of the buttons that can be programmed, like App1?
 
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Kurt:

Below is a printout of the default sym.txt file. What you think is "gibberish" is actually the character substitution table for special characters. For example, if you type a "!" on your PPC 6700 pullout keyboard, and then hold down the option key (red dot) and successively press the space bar, it will cycle through the following characters: "¡" "?" "¿".

By following the intructions in the link I previously gave you, you can create your own custom sym.txt file to add new special characters, or arrange them any way you want.

SYM.TXT (defaut)
---------
aàáâäåąãăæ
AÀÁÂÄÅĄÃĂÆ
cçćč©
CÇĆČ©


eèéêëę
EÈÉÊËĘ
iìíîï
IÌÍÎÏ




oòóôõöőøœ
OÒÓÔÕÖŐØŒ
pþ¶
Pþ¶


sşšß
SŞŠß


uùúûüű
UÙÚÛÜŰ


zźż
ZŹŻ
$€£¥
/\|
"'«»
([{<«
)]}>»
+±&-_
!¡?¿
.:,;
*#
@~
%^
 
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Kurt:

If you spend a bit of time playing around with PQzII and follow the instructions at this page:

PQzII Examples

..you should be able to figure it out -- it's not that complicated.

So you know, the various tabs in PQzII_Setup do the following:

CTRL/ALT
1) Choose the default SIP (on screen pop-up keypad) that appears in either portrait or landscape mode
2) Choose which key(s) on the pull out keyboard to use for "Ctrl" and "Alt" (you can use the same key for both).
3) Choose whether to allow Ctrl and Alt active at the same time
4) Choose whether Ctrl/Alt stays active until the corresponding key is pressed again, or whether it only works on just the next charcter (similar to CAPS vs. CAPSLOCK)

Window
1) Several customization settings for the PQzII Task Manager
2) Customize the PQzII Special Symbol Window

System
1) Allow you to custom define Ctrl/Alt keystrokes for various system commands (Close, Reboot, Suspend, Today, Task Manager, Symbol Window, etc.)

Button
1) Allow you to remap all the buttons (both push or push-and-hold) to programs of your choice

Program
1) Allow you to custom define Ctrl/Alt keystrokes to run programs of your choice

Setting
1) Allow you to custom define Ctrl/Alt keystrokes to open any of theSettings windows

TEL
1) Allow you to custom define Ctrl/Alt keystrokes to dial telephone numbers of your choice

Text
1) Allow you to custom define Ctrl/Alt keystrokes to type any predefined text strings of your choice

Code
1) Allow you to remap Ctrl/Alt keystrokes to alternate keystrokes

Icon
1) Turn on/off the PQzII icon in the top bar; pick a different icon; change its position (in both landscape and portrait modes)

Font
1) Change the default font used in PQzII's Task Manager and Symbol Windows

IME
1) Used for typing in chinese/japanese -- you don't need this.
 
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Thanks for your continued help; I now see how this and the sym.txt thing work.

I like the idea of using the pullout keyboard Windows key for CTRL; and would like to use the pullout keyboard OK for ALT. But I can't tell what "key" in PQzII equals the pullout OK. (I assume the key called Win is the Windows key).
 
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WIN indeed corresponds to the Windows Key. I don't know what corresponds to the "OK" key; to be honest, I've never even noticed the OK key on the keyboard until now. You might want to just try different ones to see what works, if any. Or you could use the WIN key for both Ctrl and Alt -- it will cycle through the two of them.
 
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