From a recommendation (like the previous post) I went to grassroots computers
and bought one of the 4 gb miniSD cards. This card I believe in NON-SDHC which is probably why it actually works. Been using it for a week now and its working so well I decided to buy a second one from them.
At this time the 4gb miniSD card is $62.99 plus free shipping there.
Also I have upgraded my phone to AKU3.3 and the card works fine.
Out of curiosity, I went to that web site, and noticed they had a phone number to contact them at. I called them asking what speed the above card is running at. He said he believed 40x. I asked if he had faster ones like the 150x found on a lot of 2g cards. He said that there's a lot of smoke & mirrors going in regards those cards at those speeds. So then who possibly has a 2g 150x card and one of these 4g cards that is working? Can you campare the 2 cards for us all to see if they are fairly close in speed? Just curious.
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I don't know the speed of any of my cards. I have a SanDisk 1gb. A SanDisk 2gb and the 4gb card that I bought at Grassrootscomputers and that is it. The 4gb seems to be the same speed as my other cards. None of my cards are the higher speed versions I'm sure so probably can't help you there.
FWIW, I bought a 4GB miniSD from www.flashmemorystore.com and it's working great. Preferred to go this route over the eBay auction in case it didn't work so that I could get my money back.
Had a 4GB microdrive and a 2GB SD in my Axim X50V, so it's nice to have some real storage capacity again! Looking forward to the 8 and 16GB versions someday...
I just got the 4gb card and sd adaptor reader from earlier mentioned Ebay seller in this thread. I didnt even need to format, just popped it in, worked right away. I put 3.2gb of mp3, vids, and just about anything else i had to test the storage. Works great, perfect. I noticed a very minimal speed loss, but id say its the same speed as the 2gb i had.
Well i spoke too soon. I removed the card after i found out it was working, formated, and loaded 10 songs, and 2 vids. Put it in the 6700, and it locks up. I have tried reformatting, using different songs, nothing.
these cards are fake. You try loading up 3gb of info on them. And use it for a while. After a while they error out and you have to format them again. I believe these are 2gb cards that are made to report as 4gb as anything above 2gb makes these cards start acting wonky. If you format them in Vista you actually get errors. I bought mine off ebay from this guy called pc2buy. He is definately running a scam
Ok.. So who ACTUALLY has loaded 4 gigs worth of data to one of these so called 4gb miniSD cards. I really am sick of the whole knock off fake card bs that seems to plague the flash memory market.
I really would like to get a 4gb miniSD but dont quite believe the hype.
Also.. I would suggest against buying from flash-memory-store.com. They sell knock off sandisk cards that are crap if you actually ever get it. My cousin got his from them and it went bad in a month.. I ordered mine and never got mine. After a month or so trying to contact them over and over and over again I ended up having to charge it back.
Anyway, I would really like to hear some feedback from people who have loaded their cards to the nuts and did in fact get 4gb worth of usable data on them.
so i just got two cards from them because i thought by reading this post earlier that the cards did work.
Well they don't Im so f^cking pisted off.
dont buy any cards on ebay I reciently bought a memory card pro duo 4GB sony and it was counterfeit and now I just bought 2 of these 4gb minisd cards and they are fake I am done ever buying any memory cards off ebay only buy from sites you trust like newegg or tigerdirect or whatever anything is better than ebay f^ck that I am now out of $200 from all the fake sh!t that I got off ebay stay away far away.
1) dont buy from ebay
2) dont buy a card that doesn't state the name brand on the card
3) good luck and don't get F^CKED (like me )
Ok.. So who ACTUALLY has loaded 4 gigs worth of data to one of these so called 4gb miniSD cards. I really am sick of the whole knock off fake card bs that seems to plague the flash memory market.
I bought one from grassroots. popped it in the phone, but "storage card" file didn't show up (unlike my SDHC, which just hangs the phone until you pop it out). formatted, but got I/O errors when copying to it initially. I persisted, and after 2 or 3 I/O errors it started writing fine (a little slow tho). just did a few chunks at a time, now I have ~3.6gb and it seems to work fine so far. I'll keep you updated.
oddly enough, when I first started copying files, I was actually putting them on my old 2gb, which was already full. I got up to 2.5gb before I realized what I was doing.
I would like to hear successes & failures from other grassroots users. obviously there are some 4gbs that work & some that don't &/or are fake. I haven't heard failures on these from that particular supplier tho.
I guess the fundamental question is whether the mini-SD format supports 4GB in a non-SDHC format. If so, then some of these cards may be legit. If not, then it appears that they are 2GB cards that have been altered to somehow report 4GB, but cannot really hold that amount reliably (as some brave but unlucky people have been finding out). I tend to think that if the mini-SD spec really did support 4GB non-SDHC, you would see them being produced by the major manufacturers and being sold by mainstream vendors.
I bought a 4Gb card from Grassroots and it worked in my device but it is VERY erratic in my USB adapter when comnneted to my pc. 9 times out of 10 it would not read the card at all. Also, the Camera program won't run in save to starage card mode if you have more than 2 GB of free space. You can solve the camera problem by partitioning the card but I was never able to see the second partition in a USB adapter.
I guess the fundamental question is whether the mini-SD format supports 4GB in a non-SDHC format. If so, then some of these cards may be legit. If not, then it appears that they are 2GB cards that have been altered to somehow report 4GB, but cannot really hold that amount reliably (as some brave but unlucky people have been finding out). I tend to think that if the mini-SD spec really did support 4GB non-SDHC, you would see them being produced by the major manufacturers and being sold by mainstream vendors.
AFAIK SD does NOT support 4gb non-HC in mini. I don't think that means that you can't fit 4gbs worth of memory in there, tho. I'm no expert, but if some mfr made a bunch of 4gb non-hc and got screwed because SD chose not to support it, I think we would have a bunch of no-name 4gb minisd cards on the ebay market.
Hmm. I guess? That doesn't sound like the best business model though - manufacturing a lot of product in hopes that it'll be supported. Anyway, for the community's sake I hope that a reliable source is eventually found.
I bought the card from pc2buy on ebay and it worked fine after I copied everything from my 2 gig card, but last night I loaded it past 3 gigs and by the end of the day the card lost its format. I've been using cards since the early Ipaq days with the sled, and I've never had a card lose its format, so I'm guessing these don't work.
We'll see if I ever get a refund, although the guy doesn't have much negative feedback. Has anyone on here actually had the 4 gig card work near capacity for an extended amount of time?
There is a huge demand and there are so many of these devices out if there were a way to manufacture a 4gb card that worked the big guys (SanDisk, Kingston, etc.) would be making a killing. The fact that not a single one of them has made a 4gb non-SDHC card should have given you all your first clue. - sheureka
It came with an SD adapter as well as a USB adapter. I got it in the mail today about 4 days after I ordered it. The first thing I did was use the SD and USB adapter to format it on my desktop PC. No problems there. Next I put it in my 6700 to see if it would see the card and it did. I then used Pocket DVD Studio and copied three movies onto the card. They totalled up to about 1.23 gig. I put them into a folder and then copied that folder two more times for a total of 3.88 gig on the card. There was a temp file created when I formatted the card. I renamed each folder and also renamed each movie file in each folder so that none of them had the same name. They all play fine on the 6700 so far. Its not as fast as my old 2 gig card.
Are there any other tests I can do do for anyone before I wipe the card and start using it for everyday data?
heh, thats who I bought my sd card from as well. Well I did like you said and formatted using the usb adapter he sent with the card, this was on wenesday and I have loaded it up with gps maps, music and all my programs. I am using like 2.8 gigs right now. It has lasted for 4 days now, we will see if it stays that way as before by a day everything on it was wiped out.
There is a huge demand and there are so many of these devices out if there were a way to manufacture a 4gb card that worked the big guys (SanDisk, Kingston, etc.) would be making a killing. The fact that not a single one of them has made a 4gb non-SDHC card should have given you all your first clue. - sheureka
is the minisd market "huge"? I feel its pretty much dead-end, with microsd taking over the small end, and thus far, double the capacity on the SD end. my totally non-technical reasons for thinking 4gb minisd-non-hc is completely doable:
1) there are 4gb SD cards.
2) there are 2gb microsd cards, which seem to be less than half the physical size of mini.
I really feel its just some strange licensing issue on SD's part (coupled with concern from the mem mfrs that the older devices that support minisd might not support 4gb anyways) that is keeping them from being officially mass-produced.
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