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Old 06-03-2006, 02:44 PM
     
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Anyone have a great holster/case for 2300/2800 battery?

A new 2800mAh battery was announced last week by lionbattery.com (see:http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73617) Does anyone know of any great holsters or cases to fit this new battery? Lion says it is the same physical size as their 2300. In the thread above, Seidio says it won't fit into theirs. Other people in the same thread say it will work. Anyone have hands on knowledge?

P.S. I am posting this here instead of the other thread because I think the other thread is getting lost in the mall and this question isn't really about the battery that was announced.
 
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The only case I have been please with while using the 2300 battery is the Seidio/PDAir Aluminum case. I modified the latch to actually keep it shut and added eGrips to both the 6700 (to keep it in the case should the Aluminum case fall and pop open -- it did before my modifications), and I also put eGrips on the outside of the case to keep it from sliding around--and off of things.

I am VERY unhappy with the lack of cases out there for people with extended batteries.

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How did you modify the latch?
 
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The OEM Sprint case works beautiful for my extended battery
 
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How did you modify the latch?
I used some extra rubber I had lying around from when I put extra rubber feet on my Laptop. I cut a strip and superglued it between the already existing rubber on the case that the latch uses to supposedly stay secure.

It mostly worked.

A few days ago I got my generic eGrips and used a strip along the edge of the case where the latch is. My test came last night when my horrible belt clip (the one that come with the case) deceded to come off (again) and drop the phone/case one a cement floor in the Movie Theater (I was watching the latest X-Men with my Wife and Nephew). The phone came crashing down...the modified stylus went flying (it hadn't done that since I first used the superglue trick on it two months ago--so I knew the phone came down harder than I've ever seen it hit a floor).

The Case did NOT open.

I think the combo of the rubber-modified latch AND the eGrips saved me from having to do a warranty exchange.

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I used some extra rubber I had lying around from when I put extra rubber feet on my Laptop. I cut a strip and superglued it between the already existing rubber on the case that the latch uses to supposedly stay secure.

It mostly worked.

A few days ago I got my generic eGrips and used a strip along the edge of the case where the latch is. My test came last night when my horrible belt clip (the one that come with the case) deceded to come off (again) and drop the phone/case one a cement floor in the Movie Theater (I was watching the latest X-Men with my Wife and Nephew). The phone came crashing down...the modified stylus went flying (it hadn't done that since I first used the superglue trick on it two months ago--so I knew the phone came down harder than I've ever seen it hit a floor).

The Case did NOT open.

I think the combo of the rubber-modified latch AND the eGrips saved me from having to do a warranty exchange.

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Are you talking about this case?:
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=322

It looks like the battery sticks out the back of the case. Is that correct? Would a hard fall with the battery side hitting the floor damage the phone itself?

Either way, I would really love to have this battery in a case/holster without modifications.
 
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I just got this holster for use with my extended battery (Seidio). The latch does seem like it doesn't clasp properly. It's a really dumb design flaw that could be fixed if the little plastic bumps were just a little closer to the edge of the case. 1mm would do the trick....

With that said is stays closed reasonably well when it's on your hip, but I'm positive it would pop open if it were dropped. I don't think the phone would fall out unless it was a really serious drop.

If your phone were to fall with the backside down it could scratch the battery cover if you have an extended battery. There is nothing protecting it. This doesn't bother me too much as that is an easily replace-able part of the phone, and only the battery cover is exposed so you aren't risking any other part of the phone.

I think it's probably wise to do a slight clasp modification to keep the thing closed, otherwise this case is about as good as you can get right now for extended batteries.

I'm also really dissapointed with the lack of case choices for extended battery users. I think this is the best one out there. I have not tried the sprint OEM case, but the Verizon branded holser would constantly push in some buttons (mostly the little joypad) and that worried me since some people have had issues with that particular button breaking.

You can do just about anything with the phone while it is in the case. The only thing is that it doesn't fit in the standard dock when it is in this case. Get the Innovo dock or just don't use a dock at all and just plug it directly into the USB cable.

I only wish it covered the SD card slot, but that's such a small point for me since I haven't had problems with the card jumping out on its own like some people have.

FYI, I got my case on eBay for $25 after shipping and it is indeed the PDAir brand case. Came in a branded box and everything.
 
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I got my new 2800mAh battery in the mail just a few minutes ago. Size-wise the battery cover is SLIGHTLY larger than the Seidio extended battery cover, in length only. Height and width are exactly the same, the 'raised' portion is just slightly longer on the top and bottom (pretty much the entire side of the battery cover is raised, as opposed to the Seidio which has a bit of lip at the bottom/top)

I don't have anything other than the OEM case, and it works fine in there, couldn't tell ya for sure if it'll fit in the other cases.
 
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I'm new here, but have been watching this forum for several months now. I really do like the aluminum case. Not only are these the only cases that COMPLETELY protect your screen (and do not have an annoying flash card pocket or anything else pressing on it), they also can be propped up for proper landscape movie viewing using the belt clip. Very convenient for travel.

Also, I have dropped mine a few times, but have yet to damage the phone. It is a little scary that the door often flies open once it lands, but the phone has never launched from the case...thank God!

I do wish the door was hinged the other way though, so it would not be able to close with the keyboard out. I have had the latch whack the screen a few times accidentally, though not hard enough to pit the screen. It could really use a pretective rubber tip on the latch, which might also keep it more securely closed.

By the way, that aluminum latch can be pretty easily bent to properly engage with the rubber ridge and keep the door closed. I have had a couple of these cases (same brand both times), and some of them shut properly right out of the box, and some are a bit loose. My theory is they sometimes just get bent a little in handling.

As for the battery cutout, I would really like to see a metal protector added to cover the bulging battery. This would seem to solve the problem of broken battery doors and would be simple to implement. It could even be a separate piece that gets clamped between the screw-on belt knob and the case. Would cost pennies to make (well, almost...)
 
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With that said is stays closed reasonably well when it's on your hip, but I'm positive it would pop open if it were dropped. I don't think the phone would fall out unless it was a really serious drop.

If your phone were to fall with the backside down it could scratch the battery cover if you have an extended battery. There is nothing protecting it. This doesn't bother me too much as that is an easily replace-able part of the phone, and only the battery cover is exposed so you aren't risking any other part of the phone.
Stay closed reasonably well??? I would expect a case like this to stay closed, dropped or not, PERIOD. That is why I would buy a case like this.

Also, Seidio's web site says "This case boasts a Neoprene lining to prevent shocks to your device." If it falls on the battery side, there is no Neoprene to protect it, since the battery is exposed. That is, the 6700 would then absorb the full force of the fall!!!

Then on top of all of that toviaheli says that belt clip that comes with this is "horrible".

We have this wonderfully designed phone, how hard can it be to design a protective case that stays closed and on the belt?

Do the improper opening issues stated in this thread only apply to the mutan power batteries? In other words, if I settle for the Seidio 2400 (vs 2800) and their case, will I have these problems? And to Seidio, if they are listening, when are you going to come out with a 2800 in the same form factor as your 2400?
 
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Stay closed reasonably well??? I would expect a case like this to stay closed, dropped or not, PERIOD. That is why I would buy a case like this.

Also, Seidio's web site says "This case boasts a Neoprene lining to prevent shocks to your device." If it falls on the battery side, there is no Neoprene to protect it, since the battery is exposed. That is, the 6700 would then absorb the full force of the fall!!!

Then on top of all of that toviaheli says that belt clip that comes with this is "horrible".

We have this wonderfully designed phone, how hard can it be to design a protective case that stays closed and on the belt?

Do the improper opening issues stated in this thread only apply to the mutan power batteries? In other words, if I settle for the Seidio 2400 (vs 2800) and their case, will I have these problems? And to Seidio, if they are listening, when are you going to come out with a 2800 in the same form factor as your 2400?

Isn't the BLACK version of this case fully enclosed?

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Not the black extended battery version. It's got an open back cut out to accomodate for the extended battery. It's exactly what you have, but black, not silver.

@ 1up:

How are you bending the clasp? I don't see how I could reasonably bend it to make it clasp better.

@toviaheli:

Can you post pictures on your latch mod?

This is my only gripe about this case is the latch is lousy. I don't know what problems people are having with the belt clip. It seems fine to me. That being, it's not going to fall off of my belt if I've actually snapped it in place properly, and the clip isn't going to fall off my belt either.

[edit]wow, 101 posts already. geezus[/edit]

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Anyone have a great holster/case for 2300/2800 battery that is stock and isn't personally modified?
 
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How are you bending the clasp? I don't see how I could reasonably bend it to make it clasp better.
Well, the 1st case I had, the latch actually grabbed the rubber ridge. The second one (same brand, same supplier) it was loose (see the 1st pic below.)

The trick is to kind of straighten out the latch--it proably got too bent during production, so it couldn't quite reach the ridge. First you bend just the bottom half outward (second pic) then bend the whole thing back inward (last pic).

I cant remember if I bent it completely with my hands, or if I had to press it against my table top to do it, but I don't think I had to use any tools. I do recommend removing the phone from the case while you're mucking around! Once bent, it never got loose again.

This case is made as well as any of the aluminum PDA cases I've seen. They all pretty much use the same latch/rubber bump design to stay closed. There really aren't any aluminum hard cases that I've seen that use a totally locked design. (I guess the advantage of this is being able to open quickly when I need to use the keyboard or stylus, as I do often.) However, I think it is more protective than any of the leather cases out there. There is nothing inside pressing against the screen, and you can basically sit on it and not harm the phone.

When it does get dropped hard enough to fly open, it opens after the shock is delivered. The bottom half sits in the case pretty darn tight due to the neoprene, so I think the only way the front of the phone could get damaged is if it's dropped hard enough that it bounces and the case flies wide open (mine usually remains loosely closed after impact) and flips over onto something hard and protruding, like the corner of a rock. If you are working in an environment where this would be a danger, you might look at one of the locking ABS waterproof/shockproof designs (which would REALLY turn this phone into a brick!).

Let me clarify that I am speaking of the totally enclosed version of these cases, not the extended battery version. I've heard of some people having problems with the belt clip pressing on the battery cover, so I think this is still a problem. I think the manufacturers could make some minor design improvements to fix this issue. Basically, change the bottom edge of the belt clip to a bevel so that it does not rub on the battery cover, and provide a metal shield that could clip onto the back to cover the battery bump. This could be a simple laser-cut piece of aluminum (same as the case) with a hole and two bends. Also, I think the case could be made much more secure by lengthening the clasp a bit and bending it inward more. It's either that or a rubber band around the case...

Hope this helps and I wasn't too long-winded!
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Nice diagrams 1up! At first I was confused but after reading carefully what you were talking about I get it.

About the belt clip: Mine doesn't seem to have the problem you're talking about. At least not to an extent that it matters at all. I actually have to try to get the swivel clip to touch the battery, and when it does it's only a very little bit. I can't imagine the case scratching the battery cover. in normal use.

I will agree with you that if you need a case that's more sturdy than this one you should just get one of those Nextel durable model phones or get the lockbox waterproof requires a keycode to open and tnt to break cases.
 
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so, is there a hard/aluminum case for the new 2800 battery? I have a Sedio case for their ext battery, but it won't allow for a comfortable closing of the latch.

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so, is there a hard/aluminum case for the new 2800 battery? I have a Sedio case for their ext battery, but it won't allow for a comfortable closing of the latch.

Charles
Nex posted a great review of an PDair aluminum case in thread linked below. From reading a bunch of 6700 threads, this seems like the best of only fair options. It would be great if someone came up with one with all the problems solved.

For those of you who already have an aluminum case, here are my additional questions:

Are the cases from Pdair and Seidio the same? Here are the links to each:
http://www.pdair.com/scripts/main/viewitem_v2.php?itemid=3091&pdaid=209
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=322

If not, what are the differences or what made you buy one over the other?


I've seen the pictures on PDairs web site of accessing the keyboard while the case is open. Does the phone kind of "stick" to the case with it open or is it an effort to hold it in place or do you actually have to set the case aside when you are using the keyboard.?

Does the case effect volum level of the ring? It's already hard to hear even when it's not in the case.

Can the clip button be removed and reinstalled on the case (if I would sometimes like to use the case without the clip)?

Does the belt clip swivel have different positions that it "clicks" into or does it twirel 360 degrees freely?

Thanks in advance for any opinions.

Nex case review in this thread:http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73617&page=5
 
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I used some extra rubber I had lying around from when I put extra rubber feet on my Laptop. I cut a strip and superglued it between the already existing rubber on the case that the latch uses to supposedly stay secure.

It mostly worked.

A few days ago I got my generic eGrips and used a strip along the edge of the case where the latch is. My test came last night when my horrible belt clip (the one that come with the case) deceded to come off (again) and drop the phone/case one a cement floor in the Movie Theater (I was watching the latest X-Men with my Wife and Nephew). The phone came crashing down...the modified stylus went flying (it hadn't done that since I first used the superglue trick on it two months ago--so I knew the phone came down harder than I've ever seen it hit a floor).

The Case did NOT open.

I think the combo of the rubber-modified latch AND the eGrips saved me from having to do a warranty exchange.

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Now that my 2800 battery is on it way to me, I thought I'd check back in to see if anyone has found a case that fits the 2800 (or the same size 2300) better. My research on this site still indicates that the PDAir Aluminum case (with mods from TOV above) is the best of fair options. Anyone found anything better yet?
 
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Now that my 2800 battery is on it way to me, I thought I'd check back in to see if anyone has found a case that fits the 2800 (or the same size 2300) better. My research on this site still indicates that the PDAir Aluminum case (with mods from TOV above) is the best of fair options. Anyone found anything better yet?

I recently bought a Brando and cut out the back.
I like it a lot, but wish I didn't have to do that. I prefered the metal case that I got tired of modifying every stinken week...to keep it closed!
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I recently bought a Brando and cut out the back.
I like it a lot, but wish I didn't have to do that. I prefered the metal case that I got tired of modifying every stinken week...to keep it closed!
Can you post a link to one you bought? Thx
 
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