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Old 04-18-2006, 02:37 AM
     
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possible to use 6700's GPS chip with magellan or gps tuner??

Sorry if this is a repost, but I just found this wonderful forum yesturday! I've tried searching the forum for a post on this already, but was unable to find one.

Does anyone know of a way to get the GPS Chip (According to the Sprint site there is one installed already in the ppc 6700) to work for a program such as magellan gps, or gps tuner?
 
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This has been discussed, it is not a powerful enough chip, or there is something differen't about the chip, it will not work with map software like a bluetooth reciever does. Go on ebay and find a Bluetooth GPS reciever, find one with the Surf III chipset. I use Iguidance software, it's great.
 
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Get a BlueTooth GPS with a software

Tomtom Rocks...

If you want I can set you up with both for around 150 bucks
 
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Yes, just to repeat it is a GPS chip but not a complete one, it is only useful to your provider (Sprint) to use their network to locat your phone for 911 or services that can access their network.

There is currently no way to use it like a normal GPS, however using an External Bluetooth GPS works very well with the 6700.
 
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I wish that phone manufacturers would start calling the chip something else other than "gps" so that it would end the confusion and someone here wouldn't have to answer the same question every week.
 
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You guys hear about the new "child locator" service sprint is offering? So I think there IS a way to do it...
http://www.betanews.com/article/Spri...ing/1144943216
 
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Again a sprint is the provider.. Henc they have access to all of the data.

This is how it works http://www.nemerix.com/KR/technology/about_agps.htm
now it may be possible for a 3rd party to write software that uses it, but I BET the need to contact the provider to get access to the assistance server data.

Since sprint controls the network and the phone it is easy for them to build services around it.
 
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I wish that phone manufacturers would start calling the chip something else other than "gps" so that it would end the confusion and someone here wouldn't have to answer the same question every week.
Thanks for all the replies!

Sorry to tonydiv for having to bear through the same question again, however when I looked through the 200 something pages, I did not see this there, and I tried searching but did not find it either...so it will probably be asked again, because I dont think the search in this forum works to well, it still cant find "GPS" if you type it in to search
 
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I dont think the search in this forum works to well, it still cant find "GPS" if you type it in to search
Most forums have a 4 character limit to reduce load.. You get too many hits with most 3 letter searches otherwise..

You can cheat in most forums by entering something like "GPS*", depending on the forum software.
 
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Sorry if this is a repost, but I just found this wonderful forum yesturday! I've tried searching the forum for a post on this already, but was unable to find one.

Does anyone know of a way to get the GPS Chip (According to the Sprint site there is one installed already in the ppc 6700) to work for a program such as magellan gps, or gps tuner?
The 6700 uses something called Assited GPS, not real GPS. The chip uses the signal from towers combined with (I think) one or two satellites (not 12 like real GPS receivers) to locate a handset.

Qualcomm publishes the specs of the API, called GPSone. Just search for GPSone on Qualcomm's website and you can get their white papers.

Your provider can make GPSone API calls to find your phone, but your phone can't. Applications like E911 make GPSone calls from the server side to find your handset using information from both your handset and the closest towers, but your handset can't make the call to find itself. Service providers can sell handset software that makes a call to a server which then makes a GPSone call and sends the answer back to you. Client-only software can't make the necessary function calls to find the handset, though.

I don't know if NavTalk software, which Sprint sells on some handsets, uses the GPSone interface or if those handsets have real SiRF chipsets in them making them real GPS tuners.
 
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