The lock feature included with the new ROM ugrade is nice in some ways but blows in others. It would have been so sweet if it could have been right. I really want to ditch mortsaver because its causing problems but I dont know that I can. Hopefully someone can figure out how to make the following happen.

I really need the lock feature to lock when the unit goes into standby. This would replace mortsaver and prevent random wakeups and key presses. Currently the only way to lock is by manually initiating a lock or via a time limit with a password which is way more messing around than I care for; I dont need security. How hard would it have been to have a check box "lock on power off". edit: if the taskbar lock utility would lock automatically on power off that would be cool. Seems the two are different locks.

Secondly I would like the ablility to use the other soft button for the secondary unlock button instead of * or the unlock button on the screen. So when you want to unlock you press one soft button... then the other and your unlocked. Does anyone know where the reg keys are that I could maybe change which buttons are used?

More and more I am getting frustrated with the lack of thorough development with everything in this world of late. It seems that every time a app or product for that matter is close to right on but missing some key component that really should have been included or realized.

I never understood this problem. In the Settings, I hit Buttons, Lock and selected that Power is the only button to wake the phone. I have yet to have an accidental keypress that woke my hone with any other button. Is this a bluetooth related issue? I just got a BT headset. Should I be concerned?

David

If you set the time out to 0 minutes on the standard password security the system only locks when it goes into supend which is when you click the power button or when you have set the unit to auto turn of.. Works very well.. Set the password to 0000 and you can tap your thumb on it and unlock in a snap.

Thats a good workaround.. still I would rather just be able to hit one specified hard or soft button to unlock.

You can. Re read the post above:

"In the Settings, I hit Buttons, Lock and selected that Power is the only button to wake the phone."

So to lock the phone you press the power button. Only the power button can unlock it. What more are you looking for, exactly?

that doesn't lock the phone. an incoming call will still wake up the phone and allow you to depress a key by accident.

it should be very easy to remap the lock button to a softkey on the today screen, all we need to know is the target path (the .exe file that initiates device lock).

There's still Mortsaver. But, I understand the frustration.

So just click the power button after you hit the answer button, it will relock the phone and the call will continue.

The device lock on the today screen is linked to shutil.dll. Not sure if there's a way to map it to a hardware button.

sure...in a perfect world. what if for some reason we're in the middle of something and can't answer??? then we're stuck with an unlocked phone moving around in our pocket.

now that would really be a poor solution. just when i want to give praise to developers they pull stupid crap like this. i sure hope there's another/available target path.

I dont find the new lock to be a problem. It is much much much easier to use than mortsave or deltalock.

I have been using it for these 2 days and I have already gotten the two press unlock motion down. If I can unlock the screen to check my email at 4 am while asleep anyone can.

As for locking on standby, I suggest you follow the policy of 'if it leaves my hand it gets locked'. The unit will either be in use in your hand or it will be locked with no time to go into standby.

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i agree that the lock works well...BUT, the fact that the developers increased the amount of keypresses by adding press and hold functions to hard keys and then only made the lock function accessible by taking up today screen real estate is pretty dumb.

just go back to mortsaver if you dont like the lock feature ... sure it may cause other issues but beggars can't be choosers.

no matter what functionality they put into a device ... there will always be somebody to say it doesn't work right. you can't please everybody

I for one like the lock feature and think it works great!!!

I love the lock feature. For those who don't like it, you're not out anything because it wasn't even an option before.

Having said that, I agree that the should have allowed us to map it to a hardware button as space of the today screen is tough to come by.

Well, we can either change the phone or change our behavior. This system works for me.

The answer is not the lame new ROM/lock, or the ever so frustrating, worthless MortSaver-----------it is the DeltaLock. It is simple and does the trick on little memory. The setup is so sensible and elementary.

deltalock is NOT the answer. I wish it was but it does little more than the built in screen and hard key lock except that, if it worked, you'd need to program a two key press together to unlock. I said if it worked. I could never get that part to work and needed to do a soft reset with the stylus to unlock and shut down deltalock. Thinking it may have had something to do with the bulit in lock I disabled that and delta lock still would not unlock. I tried all combinations of the 2 key and single key assignment for unlock and never could get it to work. I uninstalled it!
Maybe some of you have figured out how to make deltalock unlock but at this point I don't care. The reason is that I discovered that deltalock will wake up the phone with an inbound call but if you end the call and want to hang up, guess what?, deltalock still has you locked out but now with a live phone connection. That really sucks, but you can end the call by pulling the stylus out and resetting to end the call. This makes it worse than without delta lock. Delta lock sounds good but that presumes that it works, which it does, too well, you just can't easily unlock it.

Folks- While I don't think this is the Holy Grail solution, the only thing I found to prevent the phone from waking up with an inbound call, or a poll of my e-mail is to use a two step lock process. It also requires a two step unlock. I have the keys and screen locked out with the power button that works for the PDA (this is mostly a battery save lock) But before I do that and know I don't want my phone to wake up when locked off, I put the phone in flight mode, or phone off and wifi on if in a wifi zone so my e-mail will still wakeup and poll. I rarely use thie wifi on mode but it is an option as I tested it. Then all my phone calls go to VM while in flight mode. Wasn't going to answer anyway. So now I'm available. I press the power button and unlock the phone, turn off flight mode and back to normal phone use. Yes, this is not the holy grail but it is the ONLY thing that prevents the phone from answering on its own and doesn't have the side issues like the 4 digit passcode which prevents sprite auto backups from executing!

This implementation does leave a lot to be desired. To see how a button lock should be done-- just look at the treo 650 or treo 700. Every time the phone powers off you have to hit a button to unlock the phone when it is turned back on.

As for this thread-- when did we lose our common sense? Of course we should want the developers to give us the best solution possible. I have committed to this phone and would like it to work in the best ways possible.

Saying that I have to remember to lock the phone before it leaves my hand? Sorry I am not that perfect (I have an interruption filled day) and I rely on my device to make my life easier-- not give me one more #$#@ thing to remember.

"Well, we can either change the phone or change our behavior. This system works for me" -- Come on... its not unreasonable to want this phone to work like any other industry standard device. Change the phone!

The problem most of us face is the phone dialing itself when it wakes for some other reason. I too have found the 0000 password method to work, but I sure was hoping for something better.

Come on guys-- this is a great device but it is not heresy to want a few basic functionality issues to work better.

And there it is... this is all I wanted. Simply a auto lock when it powers off and a quick simple one button unlock when it comes back on.. and we all know that happens alot when you dont want it to.

If there was a setting to auto lock via the taskbar lock mechanism vs. the password lock that would be great.