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Old 02-27-2006, 06:25 AM
     
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Wifi slower than EVDO on 6700?!

My wireless connection was easy to set up, but the speed sucks. I'm getting 340kbps on wireless and 600 kbps on EVDO. The wireless connection is 15MB/2MB.

Any ideas why the wireless on the phone is so slow??
 
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what are you using to test this? and when you say wireless connection you mean wifi? wifi is either 11mb or 54mb full duplex...

if your speedtest is less than a few megs it's gonnna give you the wrong results.

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It's not the wireless connection, or the test, it's the phone. I own a network support company and understand the ins and outs of wireless and bandwidth speed.
 
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^^ If you have decided the phone is at fault than someone as knowledgable and experienced as yourself should be able to narrow down the causes.

IE:
- software issues. test after a hard reset.
- poor quality wireless chipset on the phone.
- processor bottleneck.

But I think it would be a good idea to consider all possible causes of the slow wifi speed, including the "wireless connection @ 15MB/2MB" which I assume is a wireless network accessing an internet connection with a max speed of 15/2.
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It's not the wireless connection, or the test, it's the phone. I own a network support company and understand the ins and outs of wireless and bandwidth speed.
if i'm connected by wifi and i get 1mbit from a speed test, that's slow. you have something set up incorrectly and it's much more likely to be your wireless connection or your speed test. if you want our help, you're gonna have to answer our questions and not be so defensive.

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I'm on my 6700 right now via wifi, it's fast ! How can I test the speed ?

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It's not the phone. When I test my EVDO, it's fast. When I test with Wi-Fi, it's off the charts!

< ---- very happy with Wi-Fi performance
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i too am very happy with the performance and agree - evdo is fast, wifi is blazing - as far as this phone is concerned. i've only used the 600k dslreports mobile speed test and it's too small - sometimes it downloads instantly and somethings it takes like a second - so the speeds range from 1-4 meg/s but that is not accurate because the file is too small - it only proves the speed is AT LEAST 1 mbit.

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Interesting. I managed to get it up to 680kbps using the wireless and overclocking the CPU. I would be inclined to think it was CPU bound except for some of the reports here.

I will do some more testing next week when I have the time. It's possible that the bluetooth pairing was slowing me down also.

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Here's what I think. I believe that evdo is slower than wifi when using the phone on the internet. The reason I say this is because the phone has to work a lot harder to process the information, thru evdo than thru wifi. This makes the 6700 slower thru evdo.
Now this is the opposite when thethering. Evdo is faster than my wifi when tethered to my laptop.
There is still one more side to the coin and that's battery life. When using wifi the battery is used up a lot faster than Evdo. Unless u have a poor evdo signal. Weak evdo signal kill the battery.

So my conclusion is wifi is faster thru the 6700 for the internet on the phone but when teather evdo will be faster than wifi in most cases.
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Interesting. I managed to get it up to 680kbps using the wireless and overclocking the CPU. I would be inclined to think it was CPU bound except for some of the reports here.

I will do some more testing next week when I have the time. It's possible that the bluetooth pairing was slowing me down also.

Thanks for all the feedback!
again, i get much faster speeds then 680...and i am not overclocking at all. does not seem necessary.

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when i do a speed test on wifi it shows a fast speed even though ittakes a long time to load the page. i've tried turning off the phone and bluetooth but still slow to load a page. this is surfing the net on my phone only.i've got settings set to max. speed not better battery
 
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Interesting. I managed to get it up to 680kbps using the wireless and overclocking the CPU. I would be inclined to think it was CPU bound except for some of the reports here.

I will do some more testing next week when I have the time. It's possible that the bluetooth pairing was slowing me down also.

Thanks for all the feedback!
Mr Moto,

If you have your bluetooth streaming while running your WiFi, the WiFi speed will decrease and your bluetooth audio will most likely be choppy. This is due to the interference between the two competing 2.4GHz signals. Here, my 6700 Wifi runs at an average of 1600kbps with a pre-N Linksys SRX400 router set up with WPA-TKIP and specific MAC address filtering. If bluetooth is on and streaming, my Wifi speed drops to between 450 - 600kbps. Yikes! Anyway, turn off your bluetooth stream and retest, you should see around triple the speed as you did with your bluetooth on.

In regard to latency, my encrypted Wifi network has less, and usually runs around twice as fast as EV-DO. Ofcourse, your mileage may vary...

Hope this helps...

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test speed on DSL reports...

http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
 
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test speed on DSL reports...

http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
Good point! That's the same link I use for the 6700... and select the 1MB test.

The 6700 is definitely limited by it's processor speed, as both my XP laptops average 4.5Mbps on the same wireless encrypted network, using the test sites available at http://www.dslreports.com/stest

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When I switched from Pocket IE to NetFront, my speed increased by about 400Kbps. This could be attributed to how the different browsers handle the downloads -- in whatever form they are, whether they be graphics, a block of code, etc...

But if it makes you feel better, switch the browser and try again.
 
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I get 1.5mbps consistantly with mine, normally get about 3.5 from the desktop. 1.5 is plenty for me lol donno why I'd need more on a handheld.
 
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Just tried Opera, and it tested at less than half normal speed of PIE... Not sure if the speed loss is due to Opera being installed on the miniSD card or the rendering or what? Lol... Guess it's time to try NetFront again... Thanks for the tip dbol. Cheers!
 
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What is the network card rated at on the phone? Is it "b" rated or "g" rated? I ask because I have a 54mb connection at home via Linksys router and when looking through the phone settings last I saw that it had a text rate of 11M. I assume that is the speed it was receiving text through the connection?

Just to make it clear: I got there by going Start>Settings>Connections Tab>Click on Wireless LAN. Text rate is right there.

I notice that I don't pull above 1 MB on my home connection either. I have tried a 500 Mhz older PC and I can definitely pull above 1 MB so maybe it is the phone?

Thanks in advance for the help
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Lucas,

The 6700 is only wireless B, and the processor speed is the main limiting factor in terms of speed, IMHO.

Couple other notes... If you have your bluetooth streaming and your wifi on, the 6700 processor will be taxed, and in turn slow your wifi connection throughput by 60%+. Also, just having NetFront or Opera installed to your miniSD card can cut your net surfing speed in half. Doh!

Best to all,
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