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Old 02-08-2006, 07:27 PM
     
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HTC Wizard UK/DK/FR ROM 2.8.7.102 with AKU2/AADP/Push Email update

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40458

Any chance someone will be able to get this to work on the Apache?
 
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This seems very promising! Sadly, I fear my own tinkering skillz aren't up to the task of exploring this one. Anyone willing to champion the cause and experiment with this on a 6700??
 
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Any chance someone will be able to get this to work on the Apache?
Yea, these guys can do it, and when they are done they'll give it to these guys and/or these guys so we can download and install it on our PPC-6700's.

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Old 02-08-2006, 09:36 PM
     
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HA! Good one ramjet73. You are right too. This ROM is built for a different processsor, and it has a GSM radio stack.

I hope UTStarcom and the carriers get this out before long.
 
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Haha, point taken. So what you're saying is... Verizon should have this update ready for me by Q4 2006...at best.
 
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Question help! I ahve buggered the extended ROM and need to reinstall it

Do you know where i can find a copy of the ROM for an Apache? or how i can install it? I have been playing with the extended ROM and the file directory has become corrupt and i cannot delete files. Clean reset does not sort this out either as it is in the extended rom!!! help!
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Old 02-09-2006, 10:22 PM
     
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::sniffs:: yup smells like a brick to me

so after a hard reset it does nothing? that cant be good now i know why i wait for someone elses bravery!!!
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Haha, point taken. So what you're saying is... Verizon should have this update ready for me by Q4 2006...at best.
My understanding is VZW is shooting for Q2
 
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there is a great video on msmobiles.com showing the push functionality on a wizard..... can't wait!
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Please pardon my ignorance on the subject, but what exactly is the difference between the "true push" email that requires this update, and what we have now currently using Exchange 2003 SP2? My exchange account is with 1and1.com, and they claim their servers are "push email ready". When I configure activesync on my 6700 to sync "As items arrive", it seems to me that I am receiving messages in a "push" fashion in almost real-time. Can someone clarify for us exactly what we have now, versus what we're waiting on the update for? TIA
 
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What you're using now is nicknamed "SMS Push", because in order for the server to tell your phone you've got new messages/events/contacts, it sends out a specially-formatted SMS message to the phone, which the phone intercepts, uses to trigger a sync, and then deletes all without you knowing.

This method, while it does generally work, is fraught wth disadvantages. First, SMS is generally an additional cost on cell phone plans, so you either pay per message (yikes!) or pay a flat rate for unlimited messages. Second, SMS is unreliable--there is no check for the exchange server to make certain that your device received the SMS message. Sometimes, inexplicably, SMS messages get lost and never do arrive. Otherwise they get delayed and several messages will arrive at once.

Finally, SMS is slow. The SMS Push infrastructure uses a built-in three-minute delay to allow for multiple SMS messages to be received (basically it's trying to be efficient, syncing only once despite multiple new e-mails/caleandar entries/contacts, etc.)

Basically it's a kludge--it's the best the Microsoft could do at the time. It works, generally, but it's not ideal.

Enter http push, which MS has been touting to be a major new feature of WM5 for a while now (it was only middle of last year that we learned it wasn't going to make it into the initial version of WM5). Instead of communicating via SMS (though you can still use that method if you wish), it uses http to keep a path of communication open between the exchange server and the device. Every so often (I forget the actual interval), packets called 'heartbeats' are sent back and forth to ensure that the connection still exists, so it's not like your phone's internet connection is in constant use--but it will need to be connected all the time for this to work.

The http method solves the reliability and slowness problems inherent in the SMS method. The cost thing shouldn't be a factor since almost everyone has an unlimited data plan on their 6700.

If you wish to know more about this, try some google searches on AUTD, http, and push. MS has published articles that go over the AUTD mechanisms in detail.
 
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My friend who works for microsoft's windows mobile division has found out that sprint is already in the beta phase with the MSFP. An official release shouldn't be too far off.
 
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Nice! How 'bout a leaked beta?

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Thanks for the explanation, luv2chill...very concise and informative. Much appreciated.
 
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Just for referance I've also heard of a trial of the new push technology at Alltel and have a friend of mine running it on a Beta 6700 though I've yet to get to setting up the email(we've been overrun with customers the last few days). Should have something more in the next couple days as time permits.

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Anyone with the beta care to test the A2DP functionality? I'm waiting for a CDMA pdaphone with A2DP. The 6700 looks like the best bet but still no A2DP as of yet.
 
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Since a connection is kept open for the push, one wonders about the impact on battery life. Anyone??
 
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Just because the connection is open, it doesn't mean it's active. The connection will remain in a dormant state, pretty much just like the "always on" hack that many are using. I noticed no impact on battery life at all with that hack. With moderate use (30ish sms, 2-3 10 minute calls, an hour of browsing/apps) and locked at 624Mhz, I usually end the day with 30-40% battery life left without getting a charge during the day. I'll only hit the low battery alert maybe once every few weeks, and that's on a high usage day.
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My friend who works for microsoft's windows mobile division has found out that sprint is already in the beta phase with the MSFP. An official release shouldn't be too far off.
Is that the same Sprint division that only took 2 years to beta test the i550?
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