what is the point of putting a miniSD on the 6700?
I've searched and combed, and outside of making the card companies even richer, what is the point of putting a mini SD on the 6700? SD is pretty damn small and compatible with just about every camera, mp3 player and pda out there. Memory is cheap and plentiful. Do you really save that much space by going to mini SD? To me it's the one big drawback. I have two cameras, an axim x50v and a couple mp3 players that all use SD. Now it's useless if I can't put them into the one device I'd always have with me. Might as well stick with my i500 if I still need to carry the axim around. Anyone have thoughts or rationale?
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I've searched and combed, and outside of making the card companies even richer, what is the point of putting a mini SD on the 6700? SD is pretty damn small and compatible with just about every camera, mp3 player and pda out there. Memory is cheap and plentiful. Do you really save that much space by going to mini SD? To me it's the one big drawback. I have two cameras, an axim x50v and a couple mp3 players that all use SD. Now it's useless if I can't put them into the one device I'd always have with me. Might as well stick with my i500 if I still need to carry the axim around. Anyone have thoughts or rationale?
It is a pretty substantial size difference.
The bright side the Mini SD comes with an adapter so you can use any mini sd memory with your other devices.
looking at the two I didn't think it was that substantial, and I know about the adaptor. But you need the adaptor and all new cards for every one of your devices so they all match. you might as well just go into a whole different format entirely.
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I have to agree. It's a totally pointless format. What's so stupid is there's 3 SD formats now, one that's even smaller.
It has the disadvantages of no cool add-ins available to standard SD and it's not the smallest format which is used in fair number of other phones that don't have anywhere near the room that the 6700 does. So it's likely to be a orphaned format.
That is how I felt about SD when it came in compareds to the compact flash. Compact Flash was a mature market at the time, had many add-ons and was way cheaper. Oh well. All I can say is get use to the miniSD.
Oh come on. I'll be the first one to say how lame it is that I had to go buy yet another form of memory card but if you're gonna buy a $600 phone you can afford another few bucks for that gig (or two now) of mini SD. I don't even want to know how much I've spent between all the different card formats - compact flash, regular SD, memory stuck (and DUO), multimedia card (MMC). </rant>
yeah but cf to sd was an industry wide thing and quickly adopted. Do you really see cameras and other products that use SD really making that same transition?
CF to SD is much more significant than sd to mini sd. I compare it to the Nano and my Rio Carbon. How small do you really need something? If I follow the premise that I can drop 600 on a phone, I'm really dropping a thousand if I convert everything over to maintain compatibility. I'm all for the next technology and being early to adopt, but to me it's still just the one thing that doesn't make sense on the 6700. I'd rather live with the shortfalls of my i500 (for now at least) and carry my axim when I need it.
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everyone whines and cries for the phones be smaller smaller smaller but at the same time they want it packed with more features... the second they take a step to make it smaller they cry and whine cause they did...
either can't make up your minds or like to hear yourselves cry?
who's whining? It's a valid point. There's also transflash which someone mentioned used in other phones so there's no new standard set. It might as well just be something proprietary at that point like the xD card.
I'd put money on the fact that they could've made the 6700 the same exact size as it is but still use SD. I highly doubt the size difference in that card made any difference in the overall size of the phone.
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Technology is constantly changing, you wanna play ya gotta pay. It's the way it always was, it's the way it will always be. Look at what you hold in your hands now and look at where cell phones were 10 short years ago when a brick phone was actually the size of a brick and couldn't do anything but make a phone call. I guarantee you at that time as well someone was complaining cause they just bought the newest portable gas operated generator to charge their brick and then the star tac came out. If you want latest and greatest gotta move with the times. If you want obsolete, then stick with what you know. It's all about semantics when it comes right down to it cause
latest and greatest = new, untested in major markets, prolly gonna need a bunch of downloads, prolly gonna need to update purchased software, prolly gonna need to update hardware
obsolete = it works, it's tested in major markets, we can't make it any better, we'll make the parts for a while longer but you are gonna need to update eventually
could the mini sd go the way of the betamax compared to the vcr... possibly, dont see why it would cause it's smaller and that's the trend, but if they came out with a way tomorrow to store all your data at home but still have access to it 10 miles away you are still gonna complain that they didnt add an sd card so... ????
I've searched and combed, and outside of making the card companies even richer, what is the point of putting a mini SD on the 6700? SD is pretty damn small and compatible with just about every camera, mp3 player and pda out there. Memory is cheap and plentiful. Do you really save that much space by going to mini SD? To me it's the one big drawback. I have two cameras, an axim x50v and a couple mp3 players that all use SD. Now it's useless if I can't put them into the one device I'd always have with me. Might as well stick with my i500 if I still need to carry the axim around. Anyone have thoughts or rationale?
I thought the same thing coming from a nextel i930(sd) to a treo(sd) and now to a 6700(mini).
But, with the 1gb minisd that I just purchased, I find that I am using it more wisely. 30 doc files, 10 pdf's, some excel files and so on really make life easier. Of course, I still enjoy having three movies on there for the boring seminars.
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As other posters have said, just deal with it. It's not a huge deal ... technology marches on. If the fact that the xv6700 did not utilize an SD card was a deal-breaker for you -- then you should not have purchased it. You can always get a 700w instead (however, in my view, there are downsides to the 700w, too). No perfect device exists and there are always tradeoffs. If it's that important to you, let your wallet do the talking -- and buy only what you can live with. Whining about it won't change a thing.
I gotta admit, it pisses me off too. I'm really tired of having a different form factor for literally every flash-based device I own. I bought a 1-gig SD for my Treo and now I can't use it anymore because the HTC design calls for mini SD. There is just no rational reson for it. The size difference is negligible at best.
The worst thing is that fundamentally, the flash memory is ALL THE SAME.
That is why God invented Costco! (unlimited/lifetime return policy, even for SD Memory cards)
Mini SD is less than half the size of SD. The phone is pretty small for having all of the features that it does. 2GB miniSD is only $135.
So now there is well over 12 different types of memory sticks on the market. Thats consumerism for ya!
It is always good to see someone promoting the abuse of a great merchants liberal return policy, so that enough others will abuse it to the point that they have to change it.
Not whining, and I didn't buy it. I was just trying to find out if there was a "real" reason for it being there as opposed to standard SD because, to me, it doesn't make sense. I don't think the phone would be any bigger, and you now have limited compatibility. That's all I'm stating, and I haven't heard any real reason why they switched except to make more money by selling all new cards. I'm still happy with my Axim x51v and i500 (outside of the text msg issue). It's a rarity I'd need my axim out and about so the size advantage with the i5 still wins out.
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As other posters have said, just deal with it. It's not a huge deal ... technology marches on. If the fact that the xv6700 did not utilize an SD card was a deal-breaker for you -- then you should not have purchased it. You can always get a 700w instead (however, in my view, there are downsides to the 700w, too). No perfect device exists and there are always tradeoffs. If it's that important to you, let your wallet do the talking -- and buy only what you can live with. Whining about it won't change a thing.
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