I actually have both of these deivces and I'm really on the fence as to which one I'm going to keep. I got the 700 first from a retail store on Thursday and my B2B rep sent me the 6700 yesterday.
On Thursday, after finally tracking one down and getting it in my hands, I was just SURE that I'd found my Holy Grail of smartphones. (Especially since the salesmans name was Jesus... hee hee). But seriously, I was in love right away. I'd gone back to a Treo 650 from the I730 for numberous reasons but mainly because I like the formfactor of the 650 better. Also, the stability and battery life of the I730 were just took weak. I sorely missed the PPC platform though and have been foaming at the mouth for the Treo 700 to come along and FINALLY provide me the the perfect meld of form and function.
Then yesterday, FedEx arrives and BAM! I new XV6700 is sitting on my desk. Let me tell you, I was very much wowed by this device as well. I won't really go into any sort of review of the device since I have had it only for a day, and of course it's been out for Sprint and there are plenty of reviews of it in other forums.
All I can say is that I'm torn right down the middle on these two devices. I've decided to use one for a week, starting with the 6700 and then the 700. Which will be just in time to return one or the other in the 15 day return period.
I am going to post this message in both the 700w and the 6700 forum in hopes that you will leave your comments about both devices that may help sway me, and anyone else on the fence over these two devices, on which to keep. Mind you, I don't want to start a flame war between which deivce is better, because I'm old enough to know that one size doesn't fit all with anything in this world. I just wanted your thoughts between the two if you care to leave them .
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i'd ditch the treo only cause it's using a non-standard screen res. 240x240 what the hell is that all about. You'll have too wait atleast 1 yr for alot of apps to run on the device (full screen 240x240 made) so cant make use of the 1000 or so apps out now
i love my 6700 - and i'd be skeptical about the 700w considering it is the first palm device to run windows mobile...there's are certainly more kinks than normal that will need to be worked out.
-jeff
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PPC 6700 is now my TV remote control and favorite paperweight lol
Has nothing todo with being sold by palm (i think HTC makes this unit for palm anyways) if anything it's always M$ that is the reason to blame (the OS is always halfass, theres been tons of good hardware released but running M$ crap with no updates provided (soft) and your forced to update Hardware for the fixes)
The Treo 700w has only 32 Mb of program RAM, which is not sufficient in a multitasking OS. Palm appears to still consider that the user runs only one program at a time. Further, when compared to the PPC6700, the Treo lacks Wifi and is more expensive. Not a good value.
If you believe that you will be using a keyboard for most input, perhaps the Treo would be a good choice. I use Voice Command for all phone calls, so really only use the keyboard on my 6700 when I'm entering appointment or contact data, or answering an email. The keyboard on the 6700, once exposed, is better than the Treo.
Originally posted by JDS The Treo 700w has only 32 Mb of program RAM, which is not sufficient in a multitasking OS. Palm appears to still consider that the user runs only one program at a time. Further, when compared to the PPC6700, the Treo lacks Wifi and is more expensive. Not a good value.
If you believe that you will be using a keyboard for most input, perhaps the Treo would be a good choice. I use Voice Command for all phone calls, so really only use the keyboard on my 6700 when I'm entering appointment or contact data, or answering an email. The keyboard on the 6700, once exposed, is better than the Treo.
I agree with you. One of the things that I do really like about the 6700 is the keyboard. I do alot more email than I do phone calls and the keyboard is eaiser for me to use, faster input with less typos. Considering that the battery life seems to be good afterall, thanks to WM5 enhancments as stated by another poster, my biggest concern at this point is the sliding mechanism. I didn't have the I730 long enough to tell if the slider would wear out quickly, even though it was a vast improvment over the 6600 design. I can tell you that my friend still has his 6600 and it has completely worn out and flops around like crazy. Can anyone who has had the 6700 with Sprint comment on any noticable wear and tear on the sliding mechanism?
Thanks so far for everyones feed back.
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Having owned the Treo 300/600/650, I definitely prefer those form factors to the 6700's slideout keyboard. I also think the Treo's thumboard is the way to go as it lets you use the keyboard one-handed whereas on the 6700 you need two hands. However, I have grown tired of Palm cutting corners on the Treo's hardware specs so I jumped shipped. No doubt the Treo's thumboard/form factor, fullsize SD card slot, and Today screen enhancements are nice but I am not trading them in for the 6700's wifi, faster processor, 64 MB RAM, mini-USB connector, and 320x240 screen.
I just got a Treo 700W and I have 8,785 contacts in my Outlook running on Windows XP and the PST size is 162,705kb (162 mg). It took 6 hours to Sychronize and there was 62.95 mg Used in Storage Memory afterwards with only 3.97 Free in Storage Memory. It still did not bring all the contacts over and most of the contact were un-readable or took forever to view. Yet on my old Audiovox 6600 XV Running Mobile Windows 4.0 it syncronized all contacts in three minutes and Used only 15 mg of Storage Ram and all contacts and information was always available and immediately accesable. Will this also be a problem with the new Audiovox 6700 because of the 5.0 Windows Mobile operating system? I tried to hard re-boot and disable the Mobile Voice feature but it still took 6 hours and the contacts still would not work afterwards on the Treo 700w. I spoke to the techs at Verizon and Palm they have no answers and have not tried a large .pst contacts Syncro and they have no Idea what the problem is. Is it because Windows 5.0 is reading all info in the Telephone function or just the problem with The Palm/Treo Ram and system issues?
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Isn't the slider issue a non-issue? After all, we get a 12 month warranty, and if we opt for the insurance, we can get the device replaced for $50. That is assuming, of course, one of your kids "secretly" volunteers to take the non-functioning device and places it behind one of the tires of the family car!
In my opinion, the device merely needs to last at least 2 years until a replacement upgrade comes along.
I'm currently trying to decide between these two phones as well. I was looking at Cnet's reviews of both phones. Cnet's review says that the 6700's LCD screen is "impossible to read outdoors." Overall the treo 700 scored better with a 7.6 vs. a 7.0 for the 6700.
I was wondering how the screens compare on the two devices, specifically regarding outdoor and bright light environments (not resolution). This is really one of my main concerns because I would like to be able to use the video and camera functions of these devices outdoors as well as be able to see who's messaging me.
Since the 6700 obviously beats the 700w on pure hardware specs the only other reason I might consider the 700w is because of the form factor and one handed usability. I can't imagine the tiny 4-way joystick on the 6700 is too great.
I don't take Cnet too seriously anymore because their reviews are generally off, ie they claim a device doesn't have bluethooth or wifi when in fact it does, and a large percentage of the user reviews are written by people who don't even own the product they are commenting on. Many seem written by punk teens.
If you'd like to read some other reviews of the 6700 which find the device very favorable, try phonescoop.com. I'm not giving phonescoop any credibility over Cnet, just thought you might be interested in it as a second opinion.
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Can you comment on how the screens of either device holds up in direct sunlight?
I just checked out phonescoop.com as you suggested and I see a user review for the 6700 that says: "Screen is great indoors, but in sunlight it suffers. (My Axim is much better)."
don't forget the unmetered tethered data for the 66 and 6700. It is a huge selling point for some, for others a moot point. Is it the same for the 700w? I don't even know.
about the screen. pretty much every tft lcd or scn lcd is going to be crap outdoors. wait until we have fully reflective displays... i can't wait!!!
Overall, I would have to lean towards the 6700 over the 700w. HTC has quite a bit more experience dealing with the WM OS. I imagine that Palm is going to be flustered for a while with any WM phone just because of their lack of experience. But at least there will be a handfull of updates that comes along with it.
Don't forget that the Q phone is also coming out soon!
i'd be skeptical about the 700w considering it is the first palm device to run windows mobile
But Palm doesn't make the devices. This is an HTC device, just like nearly every other PPC-phone. HTC has already made devices just like this, and HP put their name on them.
The bad part could be support; did Palm gear up for Windows Mobile support? Or are they farming it off to whoever does support for HP or the others?
Otherwise you're just buying yet another HTC phone.
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don't forget the unmetered tethered data for the 66 and 6700. It is a huge selling point for some, for others a moot point. Is it the same for the 700w? I don't even know.
about the screen. pretty much every tft lcd or scn lcd is going to be crap outdoors. wait until we have fully reflective displays... i can't wait!!!
Overall, I would have to lean towards the 6700 over the 700w. HTC has quite a bit more experience dealing with the WM OS. I imagine that Palm is going to be flustered for a while with any WM phone just because of their lack of experience. But at least there will be a handfull of updates that comes along with it.
Don't forget that the Q phone is also coming out soon!
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