So what are the changes needed in that reg-spot?
And if you DO make the changes, won't this cause you problems on yer desktop browser???? seeing how it'd be identified as something other than what it is?
Yes. Some advanced browser applications will query your brower to determine if its compatatble with it's features; however, if you are just browsing forums, it may not be a problem. For example, I don't believe java script is supported in IE4.0.
That is NOT how they know. I have manually changed the entry for my 6600 to reflect other than CE. I have done this since Feb. and have no issues and I stream audio and video ALL day. I have tethered for 16hr road trips, tethered when cable modem is out, etc. I have not been charged one bit. With the 66/6700 we dont need to worry about tethering charges. Sprint does not have the capabilities in the 66/6700 to tell. The capabilities are there on the new EVDO phones as to switch to a seperate NAI when it detects it is tethered. As far as tethering on 1x phones Sprint looked at a threashold for usage. Chris Price has said numerous times on PCSINTEL.com that the 66/6700 have no way of identifying the tethering.
Great! This is a good response to Sprint if they attempt to use the aforementioned as proof of tethering. A user can say that they simply changed their registry entrys on the PPC-6700!!!
What if you tether and do other stuff like RPC over https to check mail or listen to streams, d/l music, etc. There is more to the world than just browsing on the web.
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This has no relevance to sprint and/or monitoring of tethering.
The information that you are referring to is provided by the browser - not by the phone. When you tether - your ppc acts as a passthru gateway / router. So when you visit the dsl reports site from your tethered pc - its retrieving the information from the PC's browser - your phone at that point is acting in essentially the same way as a cable/dsl modem - its simply forwarding traffic from your PC to the internet.
The only way sprint would know if you are tethered is if the phone,when in a tethered state (wmodem), provides or signs on with a different form of authentication than when it does when connected normally. In order to do that - the information must come from the phone @ connection time. Its been documented in these forums that that's not the case with the 6700 - but that will change with future released phones.
for 2-3 years myself and others (I personally setup geez 10-15 people) on sprint just so they could tether their phones. WE all used it OFTEN and NEVER heard a word of it.
Once I was stupid and I was in a sprint store helping someone pickout a phone and we got talking about tethering. The sprint rep overhead and that was the first time I ever heard anything about you not supposed to do it. But I never did see it in writing and I never asked and none of us ever had a problem.
Now with EVDO why would they care? They even say on their website you can get a cable to tether your phone to your laptop to use it on the internet.
says and I quote:
"Phone as Modem Capable
Use the included USB cable and your Sprint Power Vision to connect to PC, allowing internet and e-mail access."
THATS SPRINTS WEBSITE. They are telling it's ok to tether your phone (phone as a modem) if you have Sprint Power Vision.
Am I wrong here?! In fact I was on the phone with customer support and the woman says to me. Oh you have't used your 2 months free unlimited internet connection. I say I already have that. SHe says no this is so you can get internet on your phone or use it (your phone) with your laptop. I said - I already have sprint power vision. She then says - yes your right that's the same thing.
So if this is true, then when I tether I should make sure that I VPN in to work or somewhere. That way, all they see if my encrypted data (no signs of what web browser I am using).
Originally posted by i4edge for 2-3 years myself and others (I personally setup geez 10-15 people) on sprint just so they could tether their phones. WE all used it OFTEN and NEVER heard a word of it.
Once I was stupid and I was in a sprint store helping someone pickout a phone and we got talking about tethering. The sprint rep overhead and that was the first time I ever heard anything about you not supposed to do it. But I never did see it in writing and I never asked and none of us ever had a problem.
Now with EVDO why would they care? They even say on their website you can get a cable to tether your phone to your laptop to use it on the internet.
says and I quote:
"Phone as Modem Capable
Use the included USB cable and your Sprint Power Vision to connect to PC, allowing internet and e-mail access."
THATS SPRINTS WEBSITE. They are telling it's ok to tether your phone (phone as a modem) if you have Sprint Power Vision.
Am I wrong here?! In fact I was on the phone with customer support and the woman says to me. Oh you have't used your 2 months free unlimited internet connection. I say I already have that. SHe says no this is so you can get internet on your phone or use it (your phone) with your laptop. I said - I already have sprint power vision. She then says - yes your right that's the same thing.
On the 6700 at least this should end any and all discussions on the issue of tethering this pda to a notebook. Screenshot this page from their site and store for future use if your overbilled. This is irrefutable otherwise they will have some major bait and switch legal issues to deal with along with the fact that they advertising falsely. No where on the above referenced page does it state that additional charges will apply while tethering.
just checked my online bill last night and saw some additional data usage charges (PCS Data @ $.01/KB) for $205 as well as messages sent & recvd @ $0.10/msg for $6.00 and as a grandfathered unlimited vision and text I'm disappointed. So I'm on hold with Sprint to clear this up, remove the charges and have them put me on the correct PowerVision plan as there was no PowerVision plan offered when I purchased my phone nor any info that my unlimited vision/text wouldn't work anymore.
I didn't tether either, just used it as much as I could to get used to it by surfing on Pocket IE.
Follow Up:
Just got off the phone with Sprint and they signed me up to a $15 unlimited internet and $5 text (100 msgs) plan. The picture/video mail option was $20 so I passed thinking that I'll send these via email until I decide if picture/video mail is a better way to go.
They deleted my $205 minus the $15 charge so a correction of $190 was made on my account.
All in all I'd rather have the EVDO grandfathered in for free but there is no free lunch, the service has been upgraded and $15 is fair.
So now that I'm paying for PowerVision is it OK to tether according to Sprint?
Last edited by DallasJayhawk : 11-12-2005 at 04:15 PM.
this all seems so stupid to me...now that there is a device like this that is FULLY CAPABLE of using as much bandwidth as a laptop or pc, there's no reason to differentiate between tethering and using the ppc regularly!
i stream tv and audio all day long through my phone and that uses alot of bandwidth...i could do the same exact thing with my laptop using the same bandwidth and streaming capabilities so why should it matter which one i use?
i understood this whole "charge for tethering" stuff when phones did not have the multimedia capabilities to use nearly as much bandwidth as a tethered laptop could, but imho this is now a null point.
my 2 cents.
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Originally posted by DallasJayhawk just checked my online bill last night and saw some additional data usage charges (PCS Data @ $.01/KB) for $205 as well as messages sent & recvd @ $0.10/msg for $6.00 and as a grandfathered unlimited vision and text I'm disappointed. So I'm on hold with Sprint to clear this up, remove the charges and have them put me on the correct PowerVision plan as there was no PowerVision plan offered when I purchased my phone nor any info that my unlimited vision/text wouldn't work anymore.
I didn't tether either, just used it as much as I could to get used to it by surfing on Pocket IE.
Follow Up:
Just got off the phone with Sprint and they signed me up to a $15 unlimited internet and $5 text (100 msgs) plan. The picture/video mail option was $20 so I passed thinking that I'll send these via email until I decide if picture/video mail is a better way to go.
They deleted my $205 minus the $15 charge so a correction of $190 was made on my account.
All in all I'd rather have the EVDO grandfathered in for free but there is no free lunch, the service has been upgraded and $15 is fair.
So now that I'm paying for PowerVision is it OK to tether according to Sprint?
I'm looking at getting the 6700 as well and if i do, i'll be in the same boat as i have the original $10 unlimited vision + picture mail + SMS package. I was told that i could keep it as is and that it will continue to work like it is now with the 6700 (hence i won't be charged anything else than my $10/month for tethering).
Based on your experience, that doesn't seems to be the case. Anyone else went through the same issue/type of upgrade?
I thought Vision = EVDO as far as sprint is concerned.
I haven't tethered my new phone to my laptop yet for internet. I don't hardly carry a laptop around now that I have this phone.
I started with a new plan and new number and got the power vision pack - which is just really internet. There. to my knowledge anyway. no sprint vision services that this phone uses. If you take pictures you just attach them and send it the persons sprint picture mail address or to whatever email address you like.
People keeping their existing plan probably get billed because having the 6700 may use a different billing code.
This is how sprint knows you're tethering
PC-6700; PPC; 240x320)
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