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Old 10-11-2005, 10:43 AM
     
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Will a developer please step up and develop a SMS threading app? (Bounty...)

IS there a better SMS program, similar to the treo's? IT's killing me, since Im already spoiled. I also hate having to switch between the email account and the messaging account. I guess I will download another mail client so I can just have 2 seperate programs.
 
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Man o man.. Im the same way.. Got treo spoiled and now its killing me. So far WebIS is close with its v2.2 release.
 
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Old 11-06-2005, 12:26 PM
     
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Will a developer please step up and develop a SMS threading app? (Bounty...)

I know I am not the only one who wants to have this functionality on their 6700? Having to delete hundreds of SMS every week is getting cumbersome. With all of the WM5 devices slated to be coming out a developer could make some nice change.

So I would like to start a bounty I pledge $5 for a developer to develop this app. Any takers?
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I agree. I'm almost considering learning how to write a program just to get this done. Coming from the Treo 650 has gotten me so used to that type of texting.
 
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on the deleting...

some of you might not know this, but there is a quick way to delete all messages in a folder in pocket outlook:

go to your sms folder, bring up the on screen keyboard; hit the control key and hit a

that will highlight all messages. then simply hit the delete key...

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on the deleting...

some of you might not know this, but there is a quick way to delete all messages in a folder in pocket outlook:

go to your sms folder, bring up the on screen keyboard; hit the control key and hit a

that will highlight all messages. then simply hit the delete key...

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This is fine when deleting all SMS's. The problem comes when you want to delete some SMS's and keep the rest. If you have few hundred SMS's it takes some time getting rid of the ones you don't want. Also when you are looking for a specific text, you have to scroll through all of the messages to find the one you want. This is a huge productivity killer.

Now there is also alternate approch to this problem...... if someone could get their hands on a Treo 700w the .cab files can be extracted from the extended rom and then loaded on our 6700's.
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I've got a project going right now, but should finish it up in the next couple days and will be willing to jump on something a little bigger.

Why don't everyone who is interested help design the features you want to see, and though I won't make any promises, I don't mind giving it a go.

I haven't used a threaded SMS application, so if you have and know what you want, post the requests here. Screenshots would be fine too, as I have no problem with copying good designs...
 
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I would recommend anyone attempting this to contact the developer of WebIS Mail as they have been working on sms abilities for awhile. However they have said that microsofts implementation in wm5 is screwy and doesn't work right in the api calls. I got the tools to program for wm5 but it's really difficult as I am new to .net. I'll need a lot of time to get up to speed.
 
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I've got a project going right now, but should finish it up in the next couple days and will be willing to jump on something a little bigger.

Why don't everyone who is interested help design the features you want to see, and though I won't make any promises, I don't mind giving it a go.

I haven't used a threaded SMS application, so if you have and know what you want, post the requests here. Screenshots would be fine too, as I have no problem with copying good designs...
That would Great!

Ok....

for starters, I would like to see the same app found on the treo 650.

When you exchange more than one text message with a single contact, those messages are automatically grouped into a chat session, also known as a “thread.” The upper part of the Chat view displays all text messages you’ve exchanged with this address, and the lower part provides a text entry area where you can continue the conversation. You can carry on multiple chats at the same time and easily switch between them, using the pick list at the top of the screen.

Basics:
- All in coming/outgoing SMS to and from one recipient will be captured in a chat thread. Single SMS's will be handled as normal. Two or more SMS' will be captured in chat thread.

- In chat thread, users out going SMS in one color with time stamp, and incoming SMS in another color with time stamp.

- The ability to delete the entire Chat thread.

-Current functionality that will remain:
* Spell Check
* My Text

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Coming from the Treo world this was the thing I miss the most. Whoever can develop this app should do very well (and would deserve to).

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I don't know what thread SMS is but it sounds cool.
 
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I don't know what thread SMS is but it sounds cool.
These poor people who never got to experience the Treo 650 chat logs.
 
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Thanks for the detailed explanation and screen shot. So if I understand correctly, it isn't necessarily 'threading' the messages like a Usenet reader threads Usenet postings (see figure 1 below), but is really just aggregating messages from the inbox and outbox, grouping by user and sorting by date? That doesn't sound too difficult (see figure 2 below).

Shadowmite, hang in there with .Net. It takes awhile to get the hang of it, but once you do you will come to like it. Or at least I have, and I was die-hard against it at first (being lazy and not wanting to learn anything new). I haven't organized an open source project before, but will be glad to do this open source if you are interested in it as well...

Figure 1:
From:X To:Y Subject:Z Date:1/1/80
  From:Y To X Subject: re Z Date:1/2/80
    From:X To:Y Subject: re(2) Z Date:1/3/80
From:X To:Y Subject:Q Date:1/1/80
  From:Y To:X Subject:re Q Date:1/4/80

Figure 2:
From:X To:Y Subject:Z Date:1/1/80
From:X To:Y Subject:Q Date:1/1/80
From:Y To X Subject: re Z Date:1/2/80
From:X To:Y Subject: re(2) Z Date:1/3/80
From:Y To:X Subject:re Q Date:1/4/80
 
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Thanks for the detailed explanation and screen shot. So if I understand correctly, it isn't necessarily 'threading' the messages like a Usenet reader threads Usenet postings (see figure 1 below), but is really just aggregating messages from the inbox and outbox, grouping by user and sorting by date? That doesn't sound too difficult (see figure 2 below).

Shadowmite, hang in there with .Net. It takes awhile to get the hang of it, but once you do you will come to like it. Or at least I have, and I was die-hard against it at first (being lazy and not wanting to learn anything new). I haven't organized an open source project before, but will be glad to do this open source if you are interested in it as well...

Figure 1:
From:X To:Y Subject:Z Date:1/1/80
  From:Y To X Subject: re Z Date:1/2/80
    From:X To:Y Subject: re(2) Z Date:1/3/80
From:X To:Y Subject:Q Date:1/1/80
  From:Y To:X Subject:re Q Date:1/4/80

Figure 2:
From:X To:Y Subject:Z Date:1/1/80
From:X To:Y Subject:Q Date:1/1/80
From:Y To X Subject: re Z Date:1/2/80
From:X To:Y Subject: re(2) Z Date:1/3/80
From:Y To:X Subject:re Q Date:1/4/80
Yeah, basically it's like creating an instant message type display. I wish I had a screenshot of the Treo in front of me, because the screenshot that was given earlier only shows the chat log inside a particular conversation. If you were to look at the inbox of the text messaging application, it would show all the grouped messages by sender, and then any single text message. They would be sorted by date. So it would kind of look like this:

John Smith: I'll call you later (shows last message sent in the log)
Jane Smith: Sounds good
Unknown: NHL - DET 4 STL 1
Frank Smith: I will see you then
555-555-5555: We're meet you there.

You'd then be able to select each log or text, and that would take you into the screenshot shown earlier.

I'm going to try to get some good screenshots for you today.
 
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Thanks for the detailed explanation and screen shot. So if I understand correctly, it isn't necessarily 'threading' the messages like a Usenet reader threads Usenet postings (see figure 1 below), but is really just aggregating messages from the inbox and outbox, grouping by user and sorting by date? That doesn't sound too difficult (see figure 2 below).

Shadowmite, hang in there with .Net. It takes awhile to get the hang of it, but once you do you will come to like it. Or at least I have, and I was die-hard against it at first (being lazy and not wanting to learn anything new). I haven't organized an open source project before, but will be glad to do this open source if you are interested in it as well...

Figure 1:
From:X To:Y Subject:Z Date:1/1/80
  From:Y To X Subject: re Z Date:1/2/80
    From:X To:Y Subject: re(2) Z Date:1/3/80
From:X To:Y Subject:Q Date:1/1/80
  From:Y To:X Subject:re Q Date:1/4/80

Figure 2:
From:X To:Y Subject:Z Date:1/1/80
From:X To:Y Subject:Q Date:1/1/80
From:Y To X Subject: re Z Date:1/2/80
From:X To:Y Subject: re(2) Z Date:1/3/80
From:Y To:X Subject:re Q Date:1/4/80
The treo 650 had a cool way of showing the difference between a single SMS or a "Chat Thread" See Atatched Pic.
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Yes, this program is a must! I'm sure quite a bit of $$ could be made with this. The T650 definitely spoiled me with that feature.
 
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I'd love to contribute to a open source project for this. We actually might make a lot of ground doing it that way. However until I figure out what I'm doing I couldn't do very much. I am still as you said, "Die Hard" against .net... But I'm trying.

So far the little sample net apps I wrote work great in the simulator and crash the device horribly in real life... I have no idea why...
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I got someone to snap some screenshots for us. Of course they decided to be a smart a$$ though . But they will work.



 
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Yea get the other screen shots looks like it was getting interesting...
 
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