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Old 10-11-2005, 08:20 AM
     
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Non-Corporate Personal Push Email Solutions

I'm a student, but so far am very happy with the PPC 6700, except with respect to push email solutions. As a student, I don't have access to any sort of corporate exchange servers or IT department, so I need a personal, non-corporate push email solution. I've read a lot of the posts on here, but so far from what I can tell, there doesn't seem to be any great product or service that will do push email for personal use without limitations or paying extra every month. From what I can tell, my limited solutions include:

1) Waiting for Sprint PCS Biz Conn PE and using that (requires me to leave a machine on and connected to my Outlook at all times - the Treo 650 client was pretty crappy also (limiting you to 75 messages max, etc.))
2) Getting a hosted exchange account (so far, the best one looks like 4smartphone.net - 500MB of space, push email (I think), and only 3.99/month - anyone know of any better ones?)
3) Using SEVEN's alwaysonmail service (which I'm assuming is probably pretty expensive)

Anyone have any other ideas or suggestions or maybe I'm just missing something big here??

I currently use Yahoo! Mail Plus email for most of my email, although I also have hotmail (MSN Premium), gmail, aol (IMAP), university, and my ISP's email services as well and could use one of them with my PPC 6700 if it might make a difference...

Also, I am currently still paying for the Yahoo! Mail for Mobile client application that I originally downloaded and used on my Treo 650. It doesn't seem there is any comparable client available for the PPC 6700 at this point...so I'm thinking I should probably cancel that service since I can't use it on my PPC 6700. Is this correct?

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If you want push for free, use your hotmail account.

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I use a "poor man's push" solution. Since web messaging is unlimited, I set up my email accounts to forward mail to me at xxxxxxxxxx@messaging.sprintpcs.com

Of course I only get message headers and sometimes a bit of the message body, but it's enough to let me know I have an email and decide if I need to bother downloading the entire message. It works great, I even have my efax account set up this way. (for receiving faxes on the fly)
 
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If you want push for free, use your hotmail account.

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hotmail has free push email ?
 
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Are you sure about this? I thought you paid for all SMS messages sent or recieved regaurdless of if they came via "web messaging". If this is true, then it is a great temp. solution!

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I use a "poor man's push" solution. Since web messaging is unlimited, I set up my email accounts to forward mail to me at xxxxxxxxxx@messaging.sprintpcs.com

Of course I only get message headers and sometimes a bit of the message body, but it's enough to let me know I have an email and decide if I need to bother downloading the entire message. It works great, I even have my efax account set up this way. (for receiving faxes on the fly)
 
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Re: Non-Corporate Personal Push Email Solutions

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2) Getting a hosted exchange account (so far, the best one looks like 4smartphone.net - 500MB of space, push email (I think), and only 3.99/month - anyone know of any better ones?)
I can't get 4smartphone's push email to work.. email to their tech support went.. unanswered.

Works great for pull sync though (I have it set for 5 min pulls...)
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Interested to know if you pay for Incomming SMS messages also.

As far as MSN and Hotmail and Instant messanger, that does seem to work, but leaving it on chews up a LOT of battery time. So much so it seams it will not last out the day.
 
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On my account it shows them as "wireless web messages" and it shows "unlimited" for them.

Not sure if there's a difference between that and SMS. ( I really don't use SMS much)
 
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Which vision plan do you have?

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On my account it shows them as "wireless web messages" and it shows "unlimited" for them.

Not sure if there's a difference between that and SMS. ( I really don't use SMS much)
 
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Had the F&F plan at $59

Just changed to the F&F for families at $79
 
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The sprint notifications do not count as sms. In fact they are not sms. They are shortmail as stated above.

I have been receiving these shortmail long before sprint even had SMS capability.

I would not worry about billing.
 
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On my account it shows them as "wireless web messages" and it shows "unlimited" for them.

Not sure if there's a difference between that and SMS. ( I really don't use SMS much)
Where on your account does it show this? You mean on your bill or on when you log in to check your account at www.sprint.com? I'd like to go look at my account and see if it says the same thing...as then I'd be confident I could receive messages this way without ever being billed for them

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Interested to know if you pay for Incomming SMS messages also.

As far as MSN and Hotmail and Instant messanger, that does seem to work, but leaving it on chews up a LOT of battery time. So much so it seams it will not last out the day.
Can you please provide a little more information about the MSN and Hotmail solution? Is this using Pocket MSN? Is it true push functionality? How does it work exactly? How does it end up chewing up so much battery? Does it require a constant EV-DO Data connection?

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Yes, it requires that you keep your MSN Messenger Client (Online) and active. Leaving it on will keep your connection alive 100% and the battery will go down fast.
 
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Yes, it requires that you keep your MSN Messenger Client (Online) and active. Leaving it on will keep your connection alive 100% and the battery will go down fast.
Wow...what an idiotic solution by Microsoft...oh well....guess that's not really a solution for me or most other people that want to have a battery that lasts...
 
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This is just one of the options, another is to use SMS and pay the $19 to have the push sms option active. But sprint will charge you for SMS then.
 
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This is just one of the options, another is to use SMS and pay the $19 to have the push sms option active. But sprint will charge you for SMS then.
Wait...whats this new option: What is the push sms option? Is that basically the same as they way their Biz Conn works (an sms message is sent whenever new email arrives and the client on the PPC 6700 intercepts the SMS message and initiates a sync to get the new email?)? If so, whats the $19 fee? Who do you pay that too?? Thanks for the info!

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mbressman, I haven't noticed a huge difference in terms of battery life.

Why don't you actually try setting up your own hotmail account with Pocket MSN and see how it goes? It's free and you've got nothing to lose.

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Woah! This may be the (temp) solution!
I just got off the phone with sprint, Your are right, the notifications of web messaging are free, if you open the message, then it's a SMS text charge!

So if you run a client or you PC to email a web message to your phone everytime you have an email you will receive a free notification. If you open the otification you will get charge for a SMS, but if you don't and just poll your pop account to get the email instead it's all free!

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I use a "poor man's push" solution. Since web messaging is unlimited, I set up my email accounts to forward mail to me at xxxxxxxxxx@messaging.sprintpcs.com

Of course I only get message headers and sometimes a bit of the message body, but it's enough to let me know I have an email and decide if I need to bother downloading the entire message. It works great, I even have my efax account set up this way. (for receiving faxes on the fly)
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Woah! This may be the (temp) solution!
I just got off the phone with sprint, Your are right, the notifications of web messaging are free, if you open the message, then it's a SMS text charge!

So if you run a client or you PC to email a web message to your phone everytime you have an email you will receive a free notification. If you open the otification you will get charge for a SMS, but if you don't and just poll your pop account to get the email instead it's all free!
What do you mean the notifications of web messaging are free? As far as I can tell, when you send a message to a Sprint phone via email (XXXXXXXXXX@messaging.sprintpcs.com) the messages comes into the phone and thats it. The OS on the phone (i.e. WM5) might be set up to give you a notification regardless of where you are currently in the phone, but from what I can tell, as far as Sprint is concerned, that message has been delivered and thats the end of it...am I wrong here?
 
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