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Old 10-04-2005, 12:49 PM
     
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If you tried pinging using an ip instead of a FQDN and it wouldn't ping, then you don't have a DNS problem, you have a network problem or a tcp/ip protocol/driver problem. Did you try doing a ping using an ip? I'm sorry this happened to you but its interesting and I'd like to know more about what happened and what you find.

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Well, my desktop is running fine with my home network. I even did a hard-wire network to the laptop without any success. So, the problem is limited to the laptop. I did try to ping an external IP without success. I was able to ping the laptop's own IP address, default gateway, etc. without any problem. Just couldn't seem to get anything outbound.

I've got the laptop back to normal and am going to try the re-install of the 6700 usb drivers again, take careful notes of what happens and when to see if I can re-create the problem.
 
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Anxious to hear what happens on your next try. Sure sounds like the tcp/ip stack or all sockets got hosed somehow.

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Anxious to hear what happens on your next try. Sure sounds like the tcp/ip stack or all sockets got hosed somehow.

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Okay, so far so good. I just installed the USB driver and the modem dialer with success on my laptop. In fact, I'm using the 6700 as modem for this session. I will try to shut down and restart, attempt another 6700 connection and then try the wi-fi connection. I'll post what happens here next.
 
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Okay...still so far so good. Did a disconnect from the 6700, reconnected it and went on line with it without any problems. Disconnected it and now am back to wi-fi on my home network with my laptop. No problems.

My thinking, at this point, as it occurs to my memory, my problems start when I install the USB Bluetooth adapter. I think something happens with my TCP/IP or netowrking protocols, etc. as a result of the Bluetooth installation. Any thoughts?
 
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Something else of note: last time I tried Bluetooth DUN, the dialer worked but couldn't complete the process, resulting in "Remote access error 680" (that error code coincides with "no dial tone"). Anyone run into this?
 
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Yet another thing I've noticed...before my troubles began I noticed, when pairing my laptop and the 6700, the "services available" for the 6700, as found via my Bluetooth app, included Dial-Up Networking. By default, the selection box wasn't checked, so I checked it, hoping that would enable DUN via Bluetooth (?). Anyone else see this?
 
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I got a 6700 yesterday, and yes the wireless modem program is present. I haven't dug into it yet, but I thought it would be via USB cable only. Does it include Bluetooth, too? The press release for the 6700 intro said this was coming in a later patch from M$.

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I DID IT!!

Got my laptop to connect to SprintPCS vision via Bluetooth!

HOWEVER...

My problem with the web page not loading is baaaack. I get the Page Cannot Be Displayed (Cannot find server or DNS error).

Interestingly, during the setup of the Bluetooth adapter (TrendNet USB model TBW-101UB version 2, installed and am using the Blue Soleil software it comes with), my firewall informed me a new Winsock was also installed. ??

Can anyone give me a hand to resolve this?
 
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If you're bluetooth setup on your laptop is putting up its own winsock then you may have competing stacks. That could definitely cause you to have the problem you're having. Since I"m not familiar with the hardware or firmware that your using I can't offer anything except to say that the likely culprit is the competing winsock, the win32 and the one from your bluetooth (if I'm reading your post right). This is just a guess but I think you're getting closer to the answer.

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If you're bluetooth setup on your laptop is putting up its own winsock then you may have competing stacks. That could definitely cause you to have the problem you're having. Since I"m not familiar with the hardware or firmware that your using I can't offer anything except to say that the likely culprit is the competing winsock, the win32 and the one from your bluetooth (if I'm reading your post right). This is just a guess but I think you're getting closer to the answer.

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Possibly...that's kind of my thought. I did a simple search for winsock.dll on my laptop and there are only two, one in the windows/system32 folder and one in the i386 cache folder. So, the problem isn't immediately there. I have to stop and think about what was added during the installation process. But, I'm kind of on the head of the nail with my issue being related to the installation of the Bluetooth.

I am using Windows XP SP2 on a Toshiba Satellite PS15-S409 with the above-mentioned TrendNet USB Bluetooth adapter.

Geeez...I'm so friggin' CLOSE! Right now, I still have the same problem with trying to load pages, etc. via wi-fi. I am able to ping the laptop's own IP address and the defalt gateway, etc. but nothing outbound.

Re-established the BT connection without any problem. Seems to work fine. Just unable to utilise the browser, email, etc.

Any suggestions would be gratefully appreciated.
 
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Think I've got it figured out, sort of....

on the laptop, I AM able to ping remote hosts by IP address only. By name, no. How odd.

I'm not getting any name resolution errors, though.
 
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Think I've got it figured out, sort of....

on the laptop, I AM able to ping remote hosts by IP address only. By name, no. How odd.

I'm not getting any name resolution errors, though.
The above goes back to sounding like a DNS problem. Could also be a firewall problem if you have a firewall thats blocking UDP port 53 which is used for DNS. That would explain why you can ping an IP but not an FQDN.

Here's one thing to try, if you know, or can get the ip of your mail server put that in place of the FQDN in your mail client. That should cause the mail to work because you won't be doing a DNS lookup. That will put you one step closer.

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im no techie but...

i bluetooth'd my 6700 the first day i got it (3rd day it was out). at my home i only get 1x but was able to use it the exact way i bluetooth'd my 6600.

i set up a dial-up connection on my laptop for #777 just as always.

i didn't use the connection for excessive downloading but I googled a few things and it seemed stable.

i live on the edge of evdo, so i will try that and report back.

my 'windows modem' program is in the programs menu and looks and acts identical to the 6600 - and I did no tweaks to it whatsoever.
 
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Re: im no techie but...

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i bluetooth'd my 6700 the first day i got it (3rd day it was out). at my home i only get 1x but was able to use it the exact way i bluetooth'd my 6600.

i set up a dial-up connection on my laptop for #777 just as always.

i didn't use the connection for excessive downloading but I googled a few things and it seemed stable.

i live on the edge of evdo, so i will try that and report back.

my 'windows modem' program is in the programs menu and looks and acts identical to the 6600 - and I did no tweaks to it whatsoever.
Interesting! One fascinating thing....I was able to link up and DUN via Bluetooth without having to run the "Wireless Modem" program in the 6700, although it's necessary for the USB cable function.

Can you tell me exactly what you did to get yours working with Bluetooth without screwing up your access to the internet? Like I mentioned before, everything's fine in setting up DUN via USB cable, etc. until I install Bluetooth. After that, my laptop cannot pull up web pages, pull in email, etc. although it DOES connect to the network (both my home wi-fi and PCS Vision). And I think I CAN ping remote servers by IP address, but not by name.

I'm trying to sort this out with the manufacturer of my BT adapter. One of the techs implies the adapter creates its own IP address and I wonder if that's causing issues. Not sure.
 
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Just wanted to follow up and let everyone know that my laptop DUN via USB cable with the 6700 is flawless and is pretty fast via the EV-DO.

Afraid to install the bluetooth again for fear of having to mess everything up all over again. I did get a reply from the manufacturer and the tech there implied that the bluetooth adapter establishes its own IP address that could interfere with my laptop's IP address. This is something I've never heard of and I'm wondering how to avoid the conflict so I can use bluetooth to establish DUN that way without any INTERNET issues.
 
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BT works but you're limited to ~100kbps... so not worth it if you're in EV-DO range.

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BT works but you're limited to ~100kbps... so not worth it if you're in EV-DO range.

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Yeah, I guess you're right. Though the thought of not having some clumsy cable getting caught up on things and tethering my phone around like a little ball and chain does seem appealing.
 
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mtnmedic -

I start the wireless modem app, switch the tab to bluetooth and start on my 6700.

Next I go to my 'Bluespace NE' (software that came with my sony laptop) and hit 'device discovery.' At that point i either authenticate the device or make sure that they are 'talking.'

Finally, I create a new dial-up network with #777 on my laptop, and in properties I make sure that the bluetooth com is checked.

Dial it up and that's it.

Luv 2 Chill - Is the limitation in the bluetooth standard itself?
 
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Got mine up and running on BT quick (Thanks L2C). And I'm only getting these results, as expected. I hope they uncockblock it at some point.

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For the moment, I've left the BT setup alone and am doing DUN via USB cable. It's clumsy but it works beautifully. Speeds are impressive. It'll be nowhere near my 8mpbs connection at home but nonetheless it's definitely low-end broadband speed and that's good enough for me when I'm out and about. My 1x works seamlessly when I'm up north out of the Sacramento area into the mountains. It's slower, yes, but works smoothly. Reception is great with this phone. The antenna is no longer an issue with me.
 
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