"The instructions clearly say not to restore a backup. "
Yes, the 2.04 instructions at http://www.myehud.com/xv6600/upgrade/ do say that, and I assumed if I didn't like how it worked I could do a hard reset and just restore contacts and appointments.
BUT you must remember that I posted back in April that I was able to use the "ROM upgrade" feature of sprite backup to go from 1.35 to 2.03 (but on a woc version) and restore a backup done with 1.35 WITHOUT ANY difficulties (using the sprite backup rom upgrade data file I created while 1.35 was still on the device.)
I've been using the XV6600woc from April to October that way without ANY issues after the upgrade and restore back in April !!
I can't find your thread from January using the search feature, to find what hapens when you put a woc backup onto a camera version.
This is of course a SEPERATE ISSUE. If they hadn't sent me a camera version, we wouldn't be having this discussion - because my backup from a device with 2.03 from the old phone went onto a new phone with 2.03 that was placed on the new one before the restore.
I want to make sure that you would agree that the 2.03 and 2.04 ROM can be placed on a 6600woc or a 6600, and that the issue you say is the problem is that of "restoring the old registry and applications from a different hardware version of the 6600", right?
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BTW - what GetDataUpgrade.exe does for sprite backup is make a file called UpgradeData.sbu which keeps track of the files that shouldn't be replaced when you restore a backup from an older version of ROM or restore from a different brand of PPC.
Apparently the only thing I can find that was lost going from a 6600woc's backup when restored to a 6600 was MMS. Based on what Sprite says it does, I shouldn't have lost MMS. I don't need this, but I'd really like to find that thread where you talk about all the OTHER things that get lost.
I did go ahead and hard reset and got MMS back, and then restored only my databases but not windows, programs or registry - but not only do I have to reinstall all my apps, but I have to repair all my BT devices, and recreate my partnerships with my two computers, etc...
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No, I just didn't think it was worth the exhaustive research to prove the point when you posted the other thread.
There are files replaced in the upgrade which the restore then overwrites. There are registry settings replaced in the upgrade which the restore overwrites. I don't know what those are. I do know they exist.
You can do what you like (you obviously did). Just REALIZE that you have created a hybrid configuration. Any problems you have later... you won't know whether to attribute them to your screwed up configuration, or a real problem.
So NO I do NOT agree that you can restore a full backup from EITHER different hardware OR different rom versions whether or not you use sprite backup's stupid feature that DOESN'T make it work right.
Originally posted by larryganz I used the sprite backup "upgrade option" where I saved the UpgradeData.sbu file while I still had 2.03 running, then used that file for the 2.03 restore ontop of 2.04 rom
I've just spent a while looking through every menu I could find of Sprite Backup. I can find no mention of an "upgrade option". It would make me feel a little more comfortable to have one.
Where is this found?
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We are aware that venizon is releasing the 2003 version for i700 devices. We do not recommend the use of Sprite Backup to backup and restore between ROM versions. We don’t recommend this action, as many system settings and applications are changed during the process of updating the ROM. You will have to reinstall applications and re-apply settings after the update. If you restore between ROM versions you could experience the following problems:
• Drivers and core system functionality are likely to not function as the registry defines driver settings and load order and these are likely to change between ROM versions.
• If any type of non-rom updates have been applied that update core system DLL's, restoring system files is likely to restore these older drivers and DLL's.
• Security related function (such as the Cryptography support as is broken in this case) is like to stop functioning as important signature data and certificates will be rolled back to the versions from earlier ROM versions.
• As well as system functions not working correctly restoring the older ROM version backup is likely to undo any of the changes that ROM update was applied for!
However, you can use Sprite Backup to backup your 'My Documents' folder and your contacts database and then restore them after a ROM update.
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Interesting.
But isn't that information somewhat outdated? It applies the the i700 and is from 2003. This Page implies that it is do-able, but also has similar warning about potential difficulties. Of course, it also mentions a mode that I can't even find on my PPC and has a link to files that don't exist any more. [v3.1.4 b2419]
Looks like I'll take the E-man's advice; again.
On a similar vein: If I upgrade the radio and it requires a hard reset, does that necessitate reinstalling everything again or can I use a backup of the programs work since the CE ROM isn't changing?
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The information is precise as to what happens. The new tool and upgrade mode doesn't solve several problems:
1. Obsolete registry entry causes a problem in new ROM. The upgrade utility won't see a conflicting new reg entry, and will restore the old reg entry. Bad.
2. Obsolete DLL causes a problem with new ROM. The upgrade utility won't see a conflicting DLL, and will restore it... and if something associates with it -- that will be bad.
You need the premium version of sprite to have to rom upgrade option. It worked quite well for me in the past to restore after taking a 1.35 rom XV6600woc to 1.36 and later to 2.03, without screwing up extended rom versions, etc.
But the fact that restoring the backup from a woc model with 2.03 to a camera version with 2.03 killed MMS lended truth to what Ehud had to say. That's why I hard reset saturday and reinstalled all my data and apps from scratch instead of using the backup. Then with everything working I saved a new backup. I now have a backup to restore to a with camera camera version and 2.04, and I kept a backup for a woc that has 2.03 if I ever have one of those again.
Larry
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I updated my ppc from 1.36.00 to 2.03.00 and honestly... the first thing I noticed was how the phone was less responsive. It seemed much slower to respond to any comand. I dont see any improvement and honestly Im thinking of going back to the 1.36.00. Ill play around with it for a while but im just not happy. *sigh* maybe ill see a reason to keep it at 2.03
Not only that I keep my SD card at read only so the PPC cant corrupt my card like it has done several times on the road. I keep a ton of GPS maps in there and one time I was traveling it corrupted them all!. So ive kept it read only and it has never happened to me since. Well I cant add any songs to a playlist if my card is set to READ only which i think is dumb. Just another thing I noticed that I dont like...
Originally posted by BerettaXtreme I updated my ppc from 1.36.00 to 2.03.00 and honestly... the first thing I noticed was how the phone was less responsive. It seemed much slower to respond to any comand. I dont see any improvement and honestly Im thinking of going back to the 1.36.00. Ill play around with it for a while but im just not happy. *sigh* maybe ill see a reason to keep it at 2.03
Not only that I keep my SD card at read only so the PPC cant corrupt my card like it has done several times on the road. I keep a ton of GPS maps in there and one time I was traveling it corrupted them all!. So ive kept it read only and it has never happened to me since. Well I cant add any songs to a playlist if my card is set to READ only which i think is dumb. Just another thing I noticed that I dont like...
Obviously you can't save a playlist if it can't write the data to the card. Also, is your card a Sandisk? They're notorious for data wipes in the PPC world.
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Yeah the card is a scandisk... but hey it was a great deal... and ive been trying to figure out how to save a playlist in the internal memory itself and not the card, but I dont see any settings to do so...
I put the card back on read/write and it will create a playlist but still no option on where to save it. AND it creates a new folder on my card with the playlist. So I switch the card back to readonly and again... it cant read the list even though it IS there. WMP9 didnt have this problem.
this WMP issue still doesnt take away the fact that it just seems soooo slugish. anyone else feel that way or is it just mine?
Originally posted by BerettaXtreme Yeah the card is a scandisk... but hey it was a great deal... and ive been trying to figure out how to save a playlist in the internal memory itself and not the card, but I dont see any settings to do so...
I put the card back on read/write and it will create a playlist but still no option on where to save it. AND it creates a new folder on my card with the playlist. So I switch the card back to readonly and again... it cant read the list even though it IS there. WMP9 didnt have this problem.
this WMP issue still doesnt take away the fact that it just seems soooo slugish. anyone else feel that way or is it just mine?
I always have mine overclocked so I wouldn't know. I've never noticed any sluggishness with either 1.36 nor 2.0x. I'm not positive, but WMP playlists might be flat files that you can crack open in a text editor and repoint the pathing to the SD card, but no, the only place a playlist will be saved is the same location as the media itself, be it internal or external storage.
When it comes to Sandisk, I'll say what I've been saying for years. You get what you pay for.
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I tried the upgrade. I says it copies to the SD. When I insert into laptop, it gives me a E & F drive, and neither are accessible from cmd or from explore.
Any thoughts? ... pertaining to this issue that is??
I am still getting access denied when trying to access the SD. I run the romupdate.exe & it runs to "store image to sd/mmc card successful" but when I put card in card reader & try to read F from cmd prompt, I get
"E:\>ntrw read oldrom.bin f:
NTRW v2.00
Could not open oldrom.bin -- Access is denied."
In Explorer it asks if I want to format it. This is a PNY 1gb card.
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