I pods are for kids. Iphones expose you to 4 times the radiation as anyother phone. I watch whole movies, V-cast, Thousands of CDS. And I can stay away from apple trash.
Wow.
- I'm sure that there are just a few adults that enjoy music and have an iPod to do so.
- Technically, I guess you could say that iPhones expose you to four times the radiation as any other phone, since four times zero is zero.
- Paying for any content, especially whole movies and television shows, on Verizon's VCast is just a bit expensive, not to mention very low quality.
- Apple trash? I'm no Apple fan boy at all - in fact, I use Windows. But a Palm user calling Apple "trash"? That's just funny.
- What's a "Misiter"?
I pods are for kids. Iphones expose you to 4 times the radiation as anyother phone. I watch whole movies, V-cast, Thousands of CDS. And I can stay away from apple trash.
Do you have a source for your comment on radiation? Otherwise, please don't throw out random comments as facts.
Please stay away from Apple trash. Enjoy your Palm and your Gateway PC. But please leave your closed mind at the door before you type something as baseless as this again.
I have been building custom PCs for over 10 years now. I have never owned a store bought computer. Now who is making baseless statements. Anytime you want to talk computers, im ready.
Sorry but we have more than 10 Palm based machines in the family.
I read the iPhone report when the phone came out. I will dig it out later today.
I have been building custom PCs for over 10 years now. I have never owned a store bought computer. Now who is making baseless statements. Anytime you want to talk computers, im ready.
Sorry but we have more than 10 Palm based machines in the family.
I read the iphone report when the phone came out. I will dig it out later today.
Congratulations on your PC skills and your Palm PDAs. But I don't see how any of this makes you an expert on cell phone radiation or personal entertainment devices. You are making genaralized statements about iPods and iPhones and certainly sound like an Apple hater... I read your other threads over in the Treo 650 forum, and it sounds like you are using your Treo for music and movies, etc. and that you are new to the Treo.
All I can say about your post here is that it was uncalled for and a direct attack on many users who happen to enjoy their iPods and iPhones. Just because you don't like them isn't a license to put down those who do.
If you want to come to PDAPhoneHome and get help or offer help to others, great. If this is some sort of ego thing, forget about it.
My PC "skills came into the topic when you said "Enjoy your Palm and your Gateway PC"
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Congratulations on your PC skills and your Palm PDAs. But I don't see how any of this makes you an expert on cell phone radiation or personal entertainment devices. You are making genaralized statements about iPods and iPhones and certainly sound like an Apple hater... I read your other threads over in the Treo 650 forum, and it sounds like you are using your Treo for music and movies, etc. and that you are new to the Treo.
All I can say about your post here is that it was uncalled for and a direct attack on many users who happen to enjoy their iPods and iPhones. Just because you don't like them isn't a license to put down those who do.
If you want to come to pdaphonehome and get help or offer help to others, great. If this is some sort of ego thing, forget about it.
No ego here. I used Apple computers back in the 80's. Then PCs took over. thats aother subject.
yes I am new to the treo. got it for free when my father got the new 755p. But having used Palms for years, it was easy to move over data, games, music, movies etc. It has this thing called a sd card slot.
I go with what has features I will use. How good is the video the iPhone records?
how good is the MMS on it?
what mp3 songs do you use for ringtones?
does it have many good 3rd party apps?
SD cards are dirt cheap and fast when watching movies.
I made no personal attacks. If you think I did, I am sorry I hurt your feelings.
There are thousands of mp3 players that do what ipods do for way less money. That is a statement of fact, not a personal attack.
I have friends that have iPhones, and that is where my view of them comes from. the screens break easy. I like pulling off a screen protector and putting a new one on. beats buying a new phone.
My reason for coming here is to mod a 3.5 audio jack into the ant of the 650. and to remove some apps I dont need. it was simple. Block me, delete my account, do what makes you happy.
I apologize that my sarcasm came through the way that it did. However, I simply disagree with your opinion that "ipods are for kids" and that you stated that "iPhones expose you to 4 times the radiation as any other phone" which is simply not true. The FCC has very strict limits on how much radiation cell phones can and cannot generate, and the iPhone falls well within the acceptable limits especially compared to some other PDAPhones.
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It has this thing called a sd card slot.
The iPhone doesn't have an SD slot, but it doesn't need one, as 8GB/16GB is plenty for me... the largest SD card is 4GB right now and the extra memory can't always even be read by many older PDAPhones. When I owned a Treo/Windows Mobile device, I hated having to swap out the memory cards to either listen to music or look at photos or use an app stored on one particular card.
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I go with what has features I will use. How good is the video the iPhone records?
how good is the MMS on it?
what mp3 songs do you use for ringtones?
does it have many good 3rd party apps?
While you are right about the total lack of MMS support on the iPhone, it isn't a deal breaker for me since I wouldn't use it anyway, and the same goes for video capture. Yes, the Treo can do those things, so go with what works for you. I can use MP3s for my ringtones and can use third party apps as well.
Anyway, I am happy that you like your Treo. It works for you.
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There are thousands of mp3 players that do what ipods do for way less money. That is a statement of fact, not a personal attack.
If you said that in the first place, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But don't tell me that iPods and iPhones are for kids. That is NOT a fact, but an opinion.
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I have friends that have iPhones, and that is where my view of them comes from. the screens break easy. I like pulling off a screen protector and putting a new one on. beats buying a new phone.
I have a screen protector on my iPhone for exactly the same reason.
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My reason for coming here is to mod a 3.5 audio jack into the ant of the 650. and to remove some apps I dont need. it was simple.
There is this thing called a 2.5 to 3.5 stereo adapter available at Radio Shack and most electronics stores, which is what I would use unless the 2.5 jack is trashed. However, a quick Google search found this:
Block me, delete my account, do what makes you happy.
I would much rather help you find what you need and hope that you can help someone else when they have a question. I'm glad you are so enthusiastic about your PDAPhone (that's why we are all here) and would rather see you participate in a much more knowledgable way, given your experience. Pay it forward...
I apologize that my sarcasm came through the way that it did. However, I simply disagree with your opinion that "ipods are for kids" and that you stated that "iPhones expose you to 4 times the radiation as any other phone" which is simply not true. The FCC has very strict limits on how much radiation cell phones can and cannot generate, and the iPhone falls well within the acceptable limits especially compared to some other PDAphones. ...
Sorry about the ipods are for kids, it was tongue and cheek. I just don't know anyone over 18 that has one. I use either my zire71 or my treo650 as a mp3 player. With the cost of the iPhone, I figured you would know I meant the ipod and not the iPhone as being for kids.
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The iPhone doesn't have an SD slot, but it doesn't need one, as 8GB/16GB is plenty for me... the largest SD card is 4GB right now and the extra memory can't always even be read by many older PDAphones. When I owned a Treo/Windows Mobile device, I hated having to swap out the memory cards to either listen to music or look at photos or use an app stored on one particular card. ...
well I have over 500CDs on SD cards (they are available in up to 8GB for under 40 bucks and 16gb for under 75 bucks), 1 card for each of my moods. then movies and you tube videos on another. and I have one for the name emulator that has about 800 games on it. I have about 40 GB of storage with me at all times. Plus the cards are backed up on a PC so if one fails, I burn the info on another card. That worries me about the iPhone. and the fact that you cant just pop the battery out then back in to reset the machine is a concern.
The case my treo is in holds the cards, so its no issue. I dont like the fact that the OS for the iPhone burns 700MB of storage, I will admit the memory in the 650 is WAY to small, and that is why I want to remove some of the apps on it.
when I finish the custom paint job on the 650 ill post pictures.
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While you are right about the total lack of MMS support on the iPhone, it isn't a deal breaker for me since I wouldn't use it anyway, and the same goes for video capture. Yes, the Treo can do those things, so go with what works for you. I can use MP3s for my ringtones and can use third party apps as well.
Anyway, I am happy that you like your Treo. It works for you. ...
here is 2 videos my daughter shot with the 650 of my other "toy" as you can see I need a music source that does not skip here here
When I checked with my friends they said they still could not use mp3 ringtones and third party apps were still blocked. If you have links to firmware updates for these they will be happy.
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If you said that in the first place, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But don't tell me that iPods and iPhones are for kids. That is NOT a fact, but an opinion.
I have a screen protector on my iPhone for exactly the same reason....
I am sorry, I had not heard screen protectors were avalible for the iPhone. I guess they learned from the sony psp disaster.
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There is this thing called a 2.5 to 3.5 stereo adapter available at Radio Shack and most electronics stores, which is what I would use unless the 2.5 jack is trashed. However, a quick Google search found this:
I have the adapter jack but the jack is to week for what I put it through. That is a mod I am working on, but I think im going to install the flat ant and change the 2.5 for a 3.5 on the bottom. I have re soldered the 2.5 jack 3 times.
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Originally Posted by jpmihalk
I would much rather help you find what you need and hope that you can help someone else when they have a question. I'm glad you are so enthusiastic about your PDAphone (that's why we are all here) and would rather see you participate in a much more knowledgable way, given your experience. Pay it forward...
I am here for knowledge, not a fight. but I guess my opinions can be black and white at times. For that I am sorry. Im not a Palm or microshaft fanboy either. I hate most microsoft software. and own a ps3.
Still looking for the radiation clip, it was on drudge report when the iPhone first came out
The third party apps for the iPhone are currently all "jailbroken" but the SDK is right around the corner for the official apps to be out soon. There are several ways to make your own ringtones for the iPhone and load them, and there are some third party tools available like iPhoneRingToneMaker. There are quite a few tutorials around the net.
I haven't purchased an SD card in quite a while... and like you have probably around 40-50GB of media on my laptop that I switch off and on to my iPhone as I feel like it and I'm always buying or burning more songs. The iPhone is still pretty restrictive in the way its syncs and it has limitations, but at least I am not resetting it once a day like my old Treos and WM phones. They were just too unreliable to use for my work stuff. It all comes down to what works for you in the end.
I am all over this website and others complaining about this very issue. Don't even get me started! Just when SD cards get enough memory and phones get the right software to make them great music/media players, the manufacturers start nixing analog (2.5 or 3.5 mm plugs). It drives me crazy! There is only one Windows Mobile Standard 6.0 device on the market with an analog audio jack (Motorola Q9M/C) which means you cannot charge your phone and use wired headsets at the same time without an adaptor. And, these adaptors produce horrible feedback if they are jossled which can be particularly annoying/dangerous in a car for instance. Plus, if you don't use the adaptor, you must use prioprietary headphones/handsfree sets.
Bluetooth is not a good substitute because, for one thing, this drains your battery even more, and for another saddles you with yet another thing to charge! And, the sound quality is still not as good nor is the connectivity as ubiquitus as with analog connectors and adaptors. Hopefully, this is just a phase and manufactures will see the error in their ways. I have certainly done my part in helping them along.
I guess im lucky. I can drive for 2-3 hours while listening to music with my Treo 650. and when we drive 6 hours to indy to see the outlaws, I can use the car charger while the headphone jack is in and play games and listen to music at the same time (while the wife is driving). I have started to do a 3.5 mod on the phone so I can stop using an adapter to the crappy 2.5 jack.
Im taking pictures as I go. An old CD-ROM drive is giving the 3.5 jack. Wish me luck.
Last edited by one bad mudder : 02-28-2008 at 04:59 PM.
Reason: not sure how the quote got moved to this thread.
Not only was I wrong, but way off. I did some digging in the FCC data base. The iPhone is not only not higher, but LOWER than my 650!
Model number SAR rating SAR rating FCC ID
(W/kg) digital (W/kg) analog Treo 650 CDMA 1.33 1.5 08FMADECA
Apple iPhone (4GB) 0.974 n/a BCGA1203
Apple iPhone (8GB) 0.974 n/a BCGA1203
There is nothing a person of science loves than being proven wrong. This is the only way we learn and expand or minds. Thank you for calling me out on this one. it took me 3 days of frustration to find the data, but there it is.
well the phone paintjob looked 100% untill i tried to put it back together. the paint was on to thick, after I sanded down the factory finish. So the paint got ruinned during the reasembly. When I took that paint off, i found out I had sanded the phone to thin in 4 places and the case broke. It is glued but this is not a perm fix.
For 2 hours, I had the only Treo 650 in the world with a working 3.5 audio jack where the factory 2.5 jack was. then the jack fell apart inside due to all the trimming i had to do to the jack.
then as i was moving my sons new computer to his room, my main 500 gb sata drive crashed. ouch. i had not been doing my backups like i should, so i lost a ton of data, pictures, etc. I think im going to go to a 1 terabyte strip raid, so I wont have to do back ups, and all will be safe.
I will post pictures of the paint job and audio jack when I get my main machine back up. it is just to hard to type on this keyboard. it is meant for little fingures. so im sorry about any and all typos.
I guess im lucky. I can drive for 2-3 hours while listening to music with my treo 650. and when we drive 6 hours to indy to see the outlaws, I can use the car charger while the headphone jack is in and play games and listen to music at the same time (while the wife is driving). I have started to do a 3.5 mod on the phone so I can stop using an adapter to the crappy 2.5 jack.
Im taking pictures as I go. An old CD-ROM drive is giving the 3.5 jack. Wish me luck.
Man, if I'm riding in a car for 6 hours, I'm playing online poker on my laptop
If you want to use it in the car, you can't beat voice command and a good analog adapter with a mic. One touch to tell the phone what you want to listen to or call people from your contacts. Other than that the iPhone is really nice.
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