I had always assumed that the Smartphone variations of PQAs didn't use the proxy service (since a full-blown TCP/IP stack was available, unlike with the Palm VII)
Guess I was wrong - I can't even use my own custom school directory lookup PQA which connects to my own web server. (Actually it should've 404ed, I accidentally forgot to backup the appropriate script when reinstalling Linux on my desktop box. But it wouldn't even connect.)
I haven't used my PQAs in so long i didn't know they didn't work. Then all in one day I find out I can erase them (reclaim a few KB) and find more uses for EudoraWeb (which I hardly use). Who NEEDS PQAs WHEN WE ARE THE PROUD OWNERS OF SMARTPHONES!!!
I haven't used my PQAs in so long i didn't know they didn't work. Then all in one day I find out I can erase them (reclaim a few KB) and find more uses for EudoraWeb (which I hardly use). Who NEEDS PQAs WHEN WE ARE THE PROUD OWNERS OF SMARTPHONES!!!
Again,
YOU GUYS RULE!!!
PQAs were a LOT more convenient than EW IMO...
It was nice having a nice big pictorial icon to click on for movie listings, as opposed to digging through a bunch of bookmarks.
Plus in many cases the initial form (e.g. a search request, or a ZIP code) was "offline", which saved a bit as far as minutes.
Originally posted by Rstyle I haven't used my PQAs in so long i didn't know they didn't work. Then all in one day I find out I can erase them (reclaim a few KB) and find more uses for EudoraWeb (which I hardly use). Who NEEDS PQAs WHEN WE ARE THE PROUD OWNERS OF SMARTPHONES!!!
Sorry but I have to disagree, and agree with the rest, PQA's Rule ...well they ruled, and I could have tons in less space than a clunky browser took up (which is why I got rid of most of them, e-finder pqa was on of the smallest browsers ever!)
*cries* PQA's are SOOO what made the PalmOS so small and efficient, so I agree 100% on the silly bookmarks thing too (plus if your bookmarks list got large or just plain went poof...)
Also,
...loading and running a browser takes such a god awful time (airtime = $$$) *grumble* Plus they prevented one thing that regular browsers won't: popups and related junk
I can't believe they had so little use to justify continuing it, or maybe it was OS 6 that caused a problem? Oh well...
Phew, at least SlashDot Saw this coming... (Sorry if it was already posted, I am too sad to think straight)
Looks like this thread will be my homepage for a while, sigh...
So is Blazer the only WAPable browser out there? It's interesting that it uses a Proxy server. I guess I will have to start browser hunting again.. The "new" EIS is a waste of ram, in dire need of finishing, and less reliable than the original..I had high hopes for it since the 7135 had EIS to start with. The original actually is more stable than the upgrade...Oh well, back to Eudora for now :/
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Originally posted by Hadron Hmm.. as a palm newbie whats a PQA and how can I tell if I'll be affected?
--Hadron
Hadron, I hope you got enough info here, if not, Palm Query Applications were great little self contained applications that got you just the information you needed...such as MapQuest, Reuters, The Onion, Weather Underground, and so on (there are hundreds). You didn't need a browser (although some in themselves were browsers!), not even an address to type in, no bookmarks to save. Just click and go. And they would save the info for offline use, thus no minutes used to reload. They were teeny little programs (The Onion was a whopping 1k *cough*), and laid everything out in a nicely formatted, scalable, popup free, cacheable, package, using Palm's integrated Web Clipping. It all really got going with the release of the Palm VII (and later VIIx and i705). Back then (only 5 years ago!) you had to sign up for Palm's Palm.net Service, which was the proxy for the apps and online/email system that made it all go. I suppose that we smartphone users are partly to blame for its demise, since we are using other carriers now. Palm.net didn't get its monthly fees any more, so that had to be a contributor. The thing is they made it so transparent, you could use most any wireless (and some non wireless) service and still access them! Palmgear and other sites still have tons of them listed...bleh writing this is making me all sad again...*grumble*
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Originally posted by gellmanb OK, let's keep exchanging good low-bandwidth links. Here are a big bunch. A few may be out of date; I don't use all of them often.
This lets you decompile pqa's and find the underlying html links (url's).
Very happy about this -- it let me find a link I could use in Eudora Web to get the information that used to be found in the PQA of my corporate travel service, Virtually There.
You have to right click and edit the batch file that comes with PQA2TXT.
put in the name of your pqa and the name of the file you want to create instead of dump\xx.txt (skip the dump\ -- just give a file name). It will create a text file and an html file (this is what has the underlying links). Very cool.
Thanks - great tool! I downloaded it and decompiled my favorite pqa - got a list of html's and txt files - but I'm ashamed to say I don't know what to do with them? I've looked in them and don't really understand what to do to find the link that I can then use on my pda browser? I don't see any web links that are obvious. A little basic help for the novice please?
Thanks.
Well, at first I just saw the .txt file and was baffled -- it didn't haveanything like a url inside it. Then I noticed that the decompiling also generated (in my case) one html file. I just double clicked and launched it. This launched only the html file on my local disk, but the links on that page were live web links, so I knew what to bookmark.